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Most of America disliking Hillary and not being excited for her as a candidate doesn't necessarily mean she's not massively favored in an electoral sense (especially in a hypothetical election held tomorrow). However since we're also just post-convention and going through several news/outrage cycles a week, I'd probably suggest everyone chill the gently caress out out re: polls showing inevitable victory/loss for their favored candidate.
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lynch_69 posted:It is pretty much the way of things I'm afraid. Whatever agrarian self sufficient paradise you're envisioning in your head as an alternative to the way the world works now isn't going to happen. The world is too interconnected. The American public can scream all they want about NAFTA and TPP, but to 99% of them they're just scary acronyms used as a talisman to focus their rage on - the second these same people start finding their Walmart tubesocks going up in price because Emperor Trump started a trade war with China they'll be marching in the streets baying for blood. You realize that there are positions you can take between completely unregulated trade and autarky right? Those policies aren't talismans, they're specific government policies that hurt wages and led to wealth transfer to those at the top of the economic ladder. They've been bad for specific American workers, and less good than they should have been for the economy as a whole because of the way they've helped undermine our demand driven economy. The proper policy is income/wealth redistribution rather than eliminating the trade deals, but people are quite correct that those policies are actually hurting them. A hypothetical trade war would hurt too, but part of the reason it would be so bad is because of the damage pre-existing trade treaties have already inflicted (in conjunction with other economic policies), and not signing the TPP is pretty far away from doing that (especially since a major point of the TPP is to gently caress China geopolitically). LGD fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Aug 1, 2016 22:51
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monkey posted:As a non American seeing this whole Trump vs Clinton thing objectively from the outside, I'm kinda curious... how many Americans still believe that their country's politics are still real, and how many realise it's all scripted like wrestling? "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't."
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