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Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Rockopolis posted:

Hey thanks for the Milhist tour recs, really helpful. We dropped Central Europe from the itinerary, it's just too far away to fit in one trip. Going to stick with France, added a southern leg to hit Marseilles and the Riviera.
What should I look out for there?

Is there like, a Spanish Road tour? Some kind of Hapsburg focused guided tour?
Or a sporting event would be rad, like Tour de France, but with swords and pistols.

Letters of Bike and Reprisal? :getin:

poo poo, I'd watch bikies swatting each other with flails and poo poo while scooting down the road up hills and around blind corners.

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Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Libluini posted:

We don't get that luxury. I ended up the personal minion of our Kompanietruppführer (an organisational post for a Hauptfeldwebel, which would be uh a Master Sergeant in the US-Army?) and I had to read those books all the goddamn time. We got regular updates which I had to copy and paste literally into the books.

And by "literally" I mean I had to take a pair of scissors and a bottle of glue and literally paste tiny strips of paper over the outdated text. :shepface:

Edit:

I was in the army from roughly 2004 - 2006, first as draftee, then as volunteer-draftee. So hopefully this paper-updating got a little upgrade by now, I remember the Bundeswehr starting to modernize their IT-equipment around that time.

Hah, and I just found my collected field and training manuals (US Army) from the 1920s-30s, which has pasted-in updates and corrections. Thrift-shop find, it's an infantry scout's home-bound set of a bunch of different stuff. I *really* need to get the scanner set up again for that... I suspect I could add clickable highlights to swap between original and updated, in Acrobat.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

TORPEDO

Anyway, update on the "scan antique manuals" front: hoo-boy, it's been a long time since I had the scanner up. So long, in fact, that I.. uh, can't find the proper power supply for it. :smith: Luckily, I have a different one that's close enough.

Scanner? Check!
Power supply? Check!
USB cable? Check!
Drivers?



Drivers?


Yoo-hoo, drivers...

Seems that HP never made post-XP drivers for the Scanjet 3300c. :doh: I'm currently getting an XP virtual machine set up, and should be able to get some test scans done tonight. :toot:

Taking a closer look at the compilation again, I'm finding both entire replacement pages folded in, and pages of handwritten notes. :ohdear: 4-5 very tightly packed inches of documents here, at the very least I'll take some tablet potato potableto pictures or something.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Ensign Expendable posted:

In my experience the default windows fax and scan program can handle anything.

Oh, I'm sure it *can*... as long as the OS recognizes that there's actually a scanner attached, which requires drivers.

BattleMoose posted:

I remember reading ages ago (so it must be true) that there was an American flamethrower dude who got shits and giggles by light his cigarettes with the pilot flame from his flamethrower and generally making everyone else super uncomfortable.

My grandma used to have a newspaper photo of my father, down in Oxnard on his National Guard SeaBee stint, using the pilot to torch weeds out of the cracks in the sidewalk. (I want to say, sometime between the mid-'60s through early '70s or so.)

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Nebakenezzer posted:


This is a WELSHMAN

he FIGHTS FOR YOUR FREEDOM CHEESE TOASTIES


Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

zoux posted:

I spent some formative years living in Kansas, right outside of Wichita and McConnell AFB. Someone told me, or I saw on a show, or somehow learned that since McConnell was the main B1 base in the US*, Wichita was a first-strike target*. I lived there at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union and I was terrified that that instability would lead to some hardliners kicking off a nuclear war and I spent many nights terrified that at any time I would be vaporized with zero warning. Since then I've always had a morbid fascination with nuclear explosions and nuclear war.

As an aside it was cool seeing B1 and F16 flyovers almost every day :kiddo:

*dunno if those are actually true, I was ten at the time

My ground-zero-home was about two miles west of Malmstrom AFB, in Great Falls, MT. So, mainly B-52s and KC-135s flying over, and Peacekeeper armored cars escorting missile trailers.

The sirens would only have told you to kiss you rear end goodbye. (Scroll down to see the missile-field maps.)

Cool thing was, I got to turn the launch key in the training simulator *twice*, during base open house days and in the Civil Air Patrol. :black101:

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

chitoryu12 posted:

I think in WW2 the German word for "Marines" was "Amerikaner".

I think that was WWI. In WWII, it was whatever is German for "Thank You For Your Service In The Pacific Theatre, No, We're Fine, Please Keep Hammering Our Erstwhile Asian Partners."

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009
Is it to late to add to the sapping/tunnel warfare discussion?

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

SeanBeansShako posted:

This conflict really is the Royal Navy and the British Army doing a tag team from hell on France with Jack Tar pinning THE ORGE in the ropes whilst The Redcoat tags in The Menace Of Peterberg who advances menacingly with a folded up metal chair. I am not not sure why I suddenly broke out a wrestling example but it was fun.

It'd be amusing to get some well-written wrestling-commentary versions of (mil)hist events to listen to.

Bobby the Brain and Gorilla Monsoon doing the Crimean War, with a run-in by Rowdy Roddy Piper at Balaclava, for example.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Trin Tragula posted:

Baden-Powell does by far the best job of putting it into words in Scouting for Boys: "...don't imagine you've got any rights in this world except those you earn for yourself...there are lots of men who go about howling about their rights who have never done anything to earn any rights. Do your duty first and you will get your rights afterwards."

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Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009
There's a bunch of rimmed-ammo mag-fed guns that were made - I've got a couple fairly recent pictures on my home machine, of a Brazilian cop with a chopped-barrel Madsen.

Hah, found one I can access and get hosted!



Once, I suggested stuff like .44 Magnum and .30 Carbine caliber conversions for AK in the TFR IRC chat, and was rewarded with much cursing and gagging. :v:

As for the optimistic Artillery Luger sights, note they had similar ones mounted on Ingliss High Powers made in Canada for use with the wooden stock/holster.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009
Gunfight at the Calais Corral

http://warisboring.com/big-guns-named-winnie-and-pooh-dueled-nazi-cannons-across-the-english-channel/

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

xthetenth posted:

From a friend:

The sloop Cyclamen, whose charge included a troopship, had been warned of German submarines off the Tuscan coast and promptly made the signal which acieved a certain amaount of nororiety in the Royal Navy: 'HAVE RAMMED AND SUNK ENEMY SUBMARINE. SURVIVORS APPEAR TO SPEAK ITALIAN'

Oh, neat. I decided to go searching for more details, and found this, which History McBoatface types might already have known about.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

HEY GAIL posted:

also in in the tuerkische kammer in dresden is the best sword ever made, which is a transylvanian katana.


blade is japanese or possibly thai, fittings are all transylvanian, signed THO:KAPUSINO:TRANSILVAN:FECIT:1674

The British Museum posted:

Another extremely fine and well-documented achievement in the art of enamelling on gold by a Transylvanian goldsmith has survived in the Dresden Armoury. This sword (Historical Museum Inv. no. Y 108) is dated and signed ‘Tho. Kapusino Transilvan fecit 1674’. Thomas Kapustran, of Klausenburg (Transylvania), was a brilliant craftsman, for not only is the handle covered with alternating bands of amethysts and enamel (white ground with floral motifs in translucent colours), but the sword guard has a broad bold design of enamelled leaves and flowers on a gold background, and the scabbard has mountings en suite (see Johannes Schöbel in ‘The Splendor of Dresden’ (eds G. Heres and W. Kiontke), New York, 1978, p. 120, no. 156, with illus.)

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

steinrokkan posted:

No, I mean that minor Axis nations were complaining that the Germans with whom they had to work sucked, IIRC, not the other way around. Some statistics about hours spent on sick leave, widespread gastrointestinal diseases and congenital problems etc. among German soldiers.

Unglaublich! <quickly hides that Afrika Corps diary posted earlier>

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Jobbo_Fett posted:

WP would burn you.

Direct application of WP will do so, but it makes lovely billowing white clouds of nasty poo poo.

Wikipedia posted:


Smoke inhalation[edit]

Burning white phosphorus produces a hot, dense, white smoke consisting mostly of phosphorus pentoxide. Exposure to heavy smoke concentrations of any kind for an extended period (particularly if near the source of emission) has the potential to cause illness or death. White phosphorus smoke irritates the eyes, mucous membranes of the nose, and respiratory tract in moderate concentrations, while higher concentrations can produce severe burns. The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry has set an acute inhalation Minimum Risk Level (MRL) for white phosphorus smoke of 0.02 mg/m3, the same as fuel-oil fumes. By contrast, the chemical weapon mustard gas is 30 times more potent: 0.0007 mg/m3.[79]

The US used WP in both 81mm and 4.2" mortars, and especially by the 4.2" Chemical Mortar Battalions. Even more CMB goodness/

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

MikeCrotch posted:

Unfortunately a lot of them require you to get very close to the cave, in which case you should have set things up so you can shoot at them as much as possible before they get close.

The alternative to caves is likely "get blown the gently caress up by airpower and/or artillery" so not a lot of luck there either.

Just think of caves as a pre-built bunker complex. Admittedly, you're stuck there, unless there's exits far enough back to avoid being overrun or moonscaped, but generally you have the opportunity to make attackers bleed to winkle you out.

If the attackers are willing to bleed, and/or develop tactics or weapons that let them close and destroy without said bleeding, well, your grave is pre-built as well.

As Hey Gal/Hey Gail/Huggle/whatever will note, the easiest way to deal with a difficult strongpoint is "starve them out". Y'all still need to keep enough forces handy to keep them in their hole, and make sure anyone that comes out doesn't get to gently caress your spawns REMFs infrastructure and lines of communication/support. The island-hopping campaign in the Pacific is a beautiful example of this - "Oh, we hosed up all your planes and boats? And have enough boat guys around to keep resupply/evacuation away? Enjoy your tropical vacation."

You're not going to win the battle/war by hiding in a hole, but hosed if you can't make the enemy go through hell from there.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Jack2142 posted:

lol


Also the best Gibson movie is Payback, and the most historically accurate is Mad Max.

Wot, no love for Attack Force Z?

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

HEY GAIL posted:

ears perk pike up

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Eela6 posted:

This is a fantastic explanation. I can see why it makes such a big difference. How many times are you expected to do this during a battle? Is physical exhaustion a major factor in battle for these soldiers?

As many times as you have the ammo to do so, but usually less. Wikipedia says a 76mm Sherman carried 71 rounds, of which some would be only useful for specific purposes - smoke ammo won't do much else, unless it's white phosphorus, and that wasn't made in 76mm. (Again, Wikipedia, because I don't know this offhand and can't get to anything more reliable from work.) Note also that you may be resupplied at some point, so enjoy stuffing more of these sumbitches into your stowage via the hatch, and, as always, anything else you might have to do to keep the big iron bitch functional.

But hey, at least you don't have to walk, right? (Unless/until it breaks down/is disabled, of course.)

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Nebakenezzer posted:

Challenger 2s use the old type because the British had a shitload of ammo for their older rifled barrel designs, including that weird "explosive silly putty to induce terminal spall on the enemy tank. "

High Explosive Squash Head (HESH)?

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Ensign Expendable posted:

A bonsai charge would be interesting to watch. Dozens of tiny ents charging along a battlefield.

Make 'em little German trees.

Das Groot

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Ensign Expendable posted:

First person view of various hospitals in North Africa and then Europe as that German guy whose diary was posted.

First person view of assorted ladies receiving the blitz across Europe - same diary, DLC sponsored by Brazzers

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Yeah, its not like the Germans could ever be the best at something, clearly there were only as good or worse than everyone else! :discourse:

Naw, it's mostly accepted that they led the way in advanced delousing and incineration technology.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Tias posted:

The 'geballte ladung' (I think it could translate to 'bundled charge?') was just this, a handful of stick grenade charges taped around one stick grenade, and bob's your uncle, fanny's your aunt, you got an anti-tank weapon.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Grand Prize Winner posted:

How were the tied-on heads ignited? Was it just hoped that the blast from the central head would set the rest off?

Yup. Essentially, you got one big boom (or a closely-coupled series of smaller ones) which hopefully does more damage than just a single grenade. No shaped-charge aspect, which would be much more effective but can't be cobbled together in the field as easily.

This has a shaped charge, and a way to stabilize it so the loud end landed in the proper position.



Still, it's recommended for braver dudes with strong throwing arms.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Disinterested posted:

Not necessarily c.f. Syrian tank being blown up with hand grenade.avi

If it comes down to me heaving grenades down main-gun barrels (and hooooboy poo poo will have gone down to an unbelievable extent to get that silly), it's going to be something with more effect than some pissy little frag - sounds like a job for WHITE PHOSPHOROUS! :supaburn:

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

first off if the tank ain't manned the guys are going to go use the cannon for dick pics

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009
Well, that's a simple solution: launch unladen aircraft, launch stores separately and mate-up in flight.

Worked for the Space Shuttle/747 Transporter, right?

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Hazzard posted:

On a lighter note, we found RPG players in WW2.



That's like an early-game me in Fallout/Skyrim/every other game that you can haul off leftovers for later sale.

LEAVE NO LOOT BEHIND (Status: ENCUMBERED - 3657/160 lbs)

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

spectralent posted:

This is probably the dumbest question in the thread, but I was just reading about soviet footwraps vs western standard-issue socks, and I just realised that military issue underwear is definitely a thing. So... When did that become a thing? Do you not just bring your own underwear? Who's checking you're keeping in uniform? Do and did women get standard issue underwear, too? Are there military measurements departments or does everyone just get a "medium" or "small" or whatever?

"PRIVATE SCHMUCKATELLI WHAT THE gently caress IS THIS? A LEOPARD-PRINT LOW-RISE BRIEF? THIS IS A MILITARY UNIT NOT A loving WEST VILLAGE YMCA! DROP DROP DROP! EVERYBODY loving DROP I FORSEE MANY MANY PUSHUPS IN YOUR FUTURE! THERE WILL BE AN INSPECTION AND IF ISSUE GEAR IS NOT PRESENT I WILL BE UNHAPPY! IF UNAUTHORIZED CIVILIAN GEAR IS PRESENT I WILL BE UNHAPPY! I FORSEE A GREAT loving DEAL OF UNHAPPINESS IN MY FUTURE AND BEING A KIND AND loving COMPASSIONATE NCO I WILL SHARE MY BURDEN WITH YOU ALL!"

(Probably a little under-use of gently caress and derivatives thereof, but you get the idea.)

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

spectralent posted:

Yeah but... I mean, is that going to be your NCO checking people's underwear drawers? That just seems bizarre to me.

Welcome to the <military branch in question>. Checking lockers/drawers/kitbags/conducting surprise inspections when the troops may or may not have been dressed and ready, et cetera, is pretty standard. Especially since at some point, an inspection by an officer may loom, and you'd much rather have Schuckatelli & Co. have their poo poo together before the <base/wing/battalion/whatever> commander wanders by.

Oh, and in case, y'know, enemy action and you find that they're lightened their loadout by swapping out the mortar baseplate with an appropriately-sized chuck of beaverboard or poo poo like that.

I knew an Air Force dude who got outright evicted from the on-base dorms because the First Sergeant did a little pre-inspection before the Wing Commander's one, and found:

1 - multiple bottles/cups of dip spit all over the room
2 - clothes both clean and dirty scattered all over the room
3 - food and wood food waste likewise
4 - an electric iron left plugged in and operating when Airman Schmuckatelli hadn't been present for roughly 36 hours before said pre-inspection

And I'm sure there was more, I'd been there once picking up something from the guy and it was a pigsty.

Anyway, the highest levels of this are usually in basic training because that's where you're *supposed* to pound into their heads that uniformity is required, et cetera, but it's present to some level all the way through the ranks. Major General Schmuckatelli doesn't get screamed at by a frothing Gunnery Sergeant, however, just because his underwear drawer is a display case from Victoria's Secret - by that rank, it's assumed that you'll at least *appear* to be within regs.

Edit for typo

Zamboni Apocalypse fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jun 7, 2017

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

spectralent posted:

Aaah, I getcha. So if WW3 kicks off nobody's going to care if you lose a night vision kit or even if you lose some trucks in combat, because it's assumed that whoever it is has those already?

At the time or the conflict, yeah. Thing is, a lot of US military equipment is logged/serialized/signed for, and at some point (usually not in combat) Schmuckatelli may be tasked to produce said gear or explain why it's not present - in the ongoing Operation Bomb Useless Dirt, people are getting dinged for missing/destroyed gear that wasn't properly accounted for, because after being cut out of the wrecked body armor, it was left to burn with the rest of the vehicle while they were medevaced. (GiP has had these reports on more than one occasion.)

The more expensive/sensitive/fun stuff is more closely kept track of, though... in theory. :unsmigghh:

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009
Truman allows China/North Korea/North Vietnam to join in full Statehood, and peacefully the United States embraces the glory of Communism; looking back, the defining point was when the dollar was abolished in favor of a social labor-based currency, and Truman's ringing endorsement of "the buck stops *here*."

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Quote taken from Status and Experience Report on the Campaign in Poland from the 1. leichte Division - 4 October 1939

Unless you were a driver or radio operator. :unsmigghh:

efb

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

spectralent posted:

Does the BMP have an unofficial nickname?

"Economy Subcompact"

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Acebuckeye13 posted:

I don't remember the post in question, but Josh Sawyer, the project lead on New Vegas, is an active SA poster and used to post a bunch in the New Vegas threads.

aka "rope kid"

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Nebakenezzer posted:

Zeppelin resupply missions to Africa

The start and end of strategic bombing mission against Britain by airplanes

The comedy of the "silent raid" Zeppelin raid

You know me, fairly narrow focus

More antics from General (?) von Lettow-Vorbeck Lawrence Paul of Arabia Tanganyika

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

MikeCrotch posted:

Fit the carbine with a cylinder gap like on a revolver

Then give it to someone you don't like

Doesn't even have to be a carbine.

(Can't find the tumblr post that had something like twelve different revolving rifles featured.)

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Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

MrBling posted:

Some pretty neat stuff got turned over to the Police the other day, during one of their "Frit lejde" periods (not sure how to translate it exactly, people can turn in any kind of weapon without fear of prosecution or fines and they can do it anonymously if they want to). Any way, this time some one turned in basically a complete shipment of British arms that was airdropped to the Hvidsten Group which was a resistance group active in 1943-44.

https://twitter.com/SjylPoliti/status/880408678486200320

https://twitter.com/SjylPoliti/status/880433699443093509

https://twitter.com/SjylPoliti/status/880433993870659584

https://twitter.com/SjylPoliti/status/880434305394192384


The police will turn them over to any museum that wants them.

"Amnesty", possibly - usually I see this in relation to traffic or parking tickets, or overdue library books. :v: (Montana/Eastern WA, over the years.) IIRC, in metro areas weapons amnesties have been done, which have now been supplanted by "gun buy-backs", which still function as a way to dispose of scary/unwanted/stolen or will-draw-lots-of-heat crime guns.

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