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Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Why did the US suffer less casualties from Iraq than Vietnam?

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Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

SeanBeansShako posted:

Shattered Sword and the crazy self defeating antics of the IJN have been brought up many times in the thread, but if you find something you'd like to talk about go ahead and post man.

I would really love an effort post


about the post midway carrier actions.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

my dad posted:

How the gently caress does that work? :stare: Is it just a case of "gently caress you, gently caress your entire fleet, I don't care how heavily armored you are and whether or not I'll survive"?

Well armor wasn't really a thing all that much by the 60s because of the preponderances of firepower that could be slung around.

There's gotta be an effort-post about general trends in ship development post world war II right?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

when did warfare become more shot than pike?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Kanine posted:

Do we have any idea whatsoever what would happen if Trumo tried to do something stupid?

There wouldn't be much stopping him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Hering

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Fangz posted:

To be quite honest I'm not sure how much I'd want kids to be interested in war, especially in this current political environment.

get him a book about that african-american contributions in the war.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

What do units that are referred to as armored calvary do exactly? From what I've heard they seem more like skirmishers.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

1:05 PM - Absolute Madman "Plutonis": stair
1:06 PM - Absolute Madman "Plutonis": can you do me a favor and post these on the milhist thread



Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

so which is the threads favorite: pike or shot?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Pistol_Pete posted:

I could go on but the whole book is like this. I love the image of the peasant venturing a few fields too far from home, becoming hopelessly lost and wandering the country forever.

this is what I was taught in my AP european high school history class


this was only six years ago.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Well I mean it was a navy.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

meatbag posted:

If anything, it's the other way around, seeing as Imperial Star Destroyers can be destroyed with one or two shots to the shield generators:eng101:

I thought the shields went down because of a Y-wing bombing run?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

quick question: did torpedo bombing in ww2 ever stop being a really dangerous ordeal for the pilots?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Cyrano4747 posted:

From a long historical perspective the question really isn't "why do people justify slavery" but "why do people start to think slavery is wrong?"

Slavery was a totally normal and accepted thing from the earliest cultures that we have any kind of information about through to the early modern period. At that point SOME people started getting the idea that maybe it was kind of BS, but the pendulum didn't fully swing over to most ruling elites thinking it was an awful thing until maybe the early 19th century.

The economic justification faded away.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Really radiation is the least of your concerns when it comes to nuclear war's civilization ending capacities. Just the initial casualties would gently caress things up and that's ignoring the potential for a nuclear winter.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

The thing is if the nukes go flying the bio-weapons go too and that could very well be gameover.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Wouldn't a sea-skimming nuclear armed ASCM basically be immune to most shipboard defenses? It can just initiate beyond the range of the CIWS and basically guarantee a mission kill at the very least right?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Has the average distance of tank engagements increased since World War II or remained static?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

They need more American ships imo.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Dumb question: would the USSR have been better off converting GAZ back to a truck factory after 1942? Or half-tracks instead? All those t-70s didn't seem that terribly useful.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Also sending s battalion to take on a company frontally is military strategy 101.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

From what I read somewhat. Part of the reason for Germany's decline on the eastern front was replacing infantry casualties in it's combined arms units

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Ford was bigger than italy.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

GotLag posted:

I assume this means that China gets nuked by the Soviets as well as the Americans.

no, I think america would be content to let the soviets handle that.


finland on the other hand would be turbofucked in this regard.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

How do dragoons fight? Do they dismount before they enter the battle? How did they protect themselves in close combat prior to the invention of the bayonet?

Also what was the most successful implementation of the concept?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Murgos posted:

E: and then Nappy went back to that slut Josephine. No, really, she got around.

thsi is extremely cool and chill

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

historical socialist movements critiques of capitalism: very good

historical socialist movements praxis: very bad

Maybe the movements of the 21st century will get it together, or maybe capitalism's endgame will kill us all. It's hard to say no one can say for sure.

I hope this resolves all the arguments.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

I'd give yugoslavia like a c- if that's what you're implying Tias.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Yvonmukluk posted:

Has there ever actually been a legitimate 'upset' in military exercises like Millennium Challenge supposedly was?

There was that time a f101 scored a simulated kill on a flight of some f-16s with a air-2 genie. That's very lowkey though.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

you can already do that by reading shattered sword.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

an argument

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

The official ranking of things not to be killed by in war is nerve gas, nuclear weapons, arrows, a guy with a shovel, and finally bullets as the least worst.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Gaius Marius posted:

Getting killed by nukes would be fine. It's not like you're gonna feel a thing. Now surviving a nuke that's when things get bad.

The majority of people who died at Hiroshi and Nagasaki didn't pass away instantly.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

SeanBeansShako posted:

I mean, what happens if the Imperial Germany Navy under direct orders of the Kaiser moves to strip the whole thing so they could engineer their own battleship dreadnaught mutants with the technology? would the crew be cool with this?

Then the Kaiser is now a time lord with a battleship.

is there any like article or essay about reverse engineering technology from the future in any of these dumb alt-hist scenarios. I'm curious what they'd actually be able to accomplish considering the best that was done radar-wise in this time period was a patent for a system to avoid collisions in port.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

The biggest problem, as I see it, is that it's not actually legal to shoot Nazis or hit them with blunt instruments during peacetime. This is a weakness of civil society that fascists cravenly exploit.

Devils advocate: Those laws are also what keep people from dumping socialists in unmarked graves.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

As an actual contribution(questionably) to the thread: Why did the Royal navy decide armoring their aircraft carriers was more important than having large air complements?

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

The Lone Badger posted:

IIRC there were some Russian radar masts that would straight-up kill you if you were working on them when they were turned on.

Like most modern warships have radars that do this at full power.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

feedmegin posted:

Presumably, how much it can carry. Bombs are heavy. Also low altitude performance or the lack of it. Things you want to bomb are on the ground.

Not really. There's a proud History of fighters taking on the ground attack mission and excelling. Like the F-14D or the P-38.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Europe was a Jenga tower post 1880 and Bismarck was just one of the blocks

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Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Koramei posted:

Imjin War stuff

Vaguely releated, wasn't the gap between Japanese and continental forces something early works in the west about the conflict kind of over exaggerated?

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