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Xerxes17 posted:I know, but specifically early modern stuff aside from the buildings/streets.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 22:50 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 13:27 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Past that a lot of it comes down to psychological factors. The effects of weapons on the human body is some freaky poo poo. Some people will get shot absolutely to ribbons and keep fighting (MOH citations are good places to see this in action) while others will be combat ineffective after a relatively minor injury. This part of it isn't all that well understood , even now.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 23:11 |
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this is why they have you cover your opponent's sword while you withdraw even after a successful lunge, siivola (and anyone else who's taken early modern fencing)
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 23:16 |
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my dad posted:Ah, yes, the "perfectly spherical Roman legions in a vacuum" school.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 23:45 |
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Suspect Bucket posted:Tee hee! try it yourself, look one of them up
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 00:25 |
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Tias posted:This is the weirdest thing. Some people will straight up die from grazes or being struck in the foot, due to shock( I think). in the witchcraft cases they don't even have to have had anything actually happen to them.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 08:17 |
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Suspect Bucket posted:I dunno, this guy looks like he's trying not to laugh. Like his kids are in the back of the artist giving him bunny ears or something. (edit: Wallenstein's only living child was a daughter, but he also had 21 uncles and aunts, many of which had kids, which is why every now and then you'll be reading through an order of battle and find a small crowd of Wallensteins, most with names like Ladislaus and Zdenko. Gallas, I think, had two kids, and a wife who promptly involved herself in inheritance lawsuits after he died. General Sporck had two daughters, Aldringen had no kids at all. Pappenheim had one son, Philip, who died in a duel in 1645. It seems to be a thing with these guys that they have fewer children than you'd expect.) HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Aug 4, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 08:18 |
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So, this stuff. Green glass, a lot of the time with merengue-like blobs on the sides. http://www.armabohemia.cz/Novestr/glassA.htm it's everywhere in early modern art! even in the humblest settings, as in this Franck engraving: why? could these people afford something like this? last weekend an english reenactor told me that yes they could--he had just read an article saying that according to ship manifests, central european green glass was so cheap that they shoveled it into english ships as ballast. they'd shovel it back out at the end of the voyage and sell any of it that didn't break for a few cents a piece, at a profit. the soldier in that picture could have afforded the glass he's holding, and probably more than one of them. so i could have a glass just like the one in that engraving, like this but it'd break within minutes so i won't. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Aug 4, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 13:03 |
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what's spanish for ungelegenheit
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 16:05 |
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my dad posted:Hey, the place is still standing and with a rather distinct lack of houses on fire. Quite peaceful, indeed.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 16:19 |
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they were not pre industrialized societies, op
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 16:30 |
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the empire is full of that glass. so full. the most glass. you'll love it
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 17:08 |
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Kemper Boyd posted:Edit: the part that deals with the 30 YW is kind of weirdly shortish. Bierjörg was a poo poo Elector.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 20:59 |
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on the first chapter now on that recommendation; spot the part where i raised an eyebrow
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 22:00 |
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HEY GAL posted:you go to war with the Wettin you have, not the Wettin you wish you have HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Aug 4, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 22:15 |
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Pellisworth posted:This is from a few pages ago (I'm still catching up with the new thread), but interestingly the Lakota Sioux epithet for a white person is "wasicu" which translates roughly to "steals the fat." I dunno if that's related but seems plausible. edit: typo, but i'm sticking with it
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 22:25 |
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Pellisworth posted:Edit: I forget the actual Lakota word since it's pretty rarely used, but there's another epithet for mixed-race (white and Lakota) people that means literally "translator." The French traders made a deliberate practice of marrying Native American women so they could have a translator and multilingual kids. Many, many Native American families have French surnames today. appropriately enough. edit: and all western europeans made medicines and magical substances out of fat/bones/blood/etc in the 1600s, so far as i know HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Aug 4, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 22:42 |
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Kemper Boyd posted:I was talking about Georg Wilhelm, confused the nicknames because the Brandenburgian dude was an inefficient alcoholic too. speaking of alcoholics, who do you think created a more toxic working environment, wallenstein or baner?
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 23:01 |
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i'm really more of an "ideas" guy
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 00:00 |
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Kemper Boyd posted:Banér, probably because Banér was actually feared for being a mean drunk. Banér was also superstitious beyond the usual and had a bunch of camp followers executed for witchcraft. he was weird, baner was an rear end in a top hat. fun fact about wallenstein, when the conspirators were thinking about how to get him away from everyone else on the night of 25 Feb '34, they invited all of the targets, him included, to a party, gambling that Wallenstein would refuse, which he did. So he died as he had lived: avoiding a social engagement. edit: according to peter wilson, his distaste for socializing with people he didn't choose to socialize with might have contributed to his death, since he never went to court since some point in the...20s? and therefore couldn't schmooze and was at a disadvantage in the kind of politics these people did. Not sure how much schmoozing he could have done at court, but it would have shown the Emperor and the King of the Romans he was making the effort. edit 2: please do not insult superstitious generals in my presence, thanks and god bless HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Aug 5, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 11:08 |
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Kemper Boyd posted:Banérs main contribution was also to make the war even nastier than it had been. look at it this way, he wasn't a hypocrite
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 11:11 |
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17th century best century edit: for more substantial responses to your points, everyone had a legal justification for going to war, everyone had lawyers on tap, and they'd publish that justification in pamphlet form as fast as they could. this was not specific to one side or one guy, and by the 40s I'm pretty sure it had begun to seem rather...tattered. at least Baner didn't believe his personal interests were identical to the cause he served or the interests of his religion. edit 2. Everyone's got ideals. Ferdinand the Second had ideals. Ferdinand the second was the most moral person in the goddamn war, and look what that got everyone. Ideals make potential peace treaties fall apart. Ideals are the enemy. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to drink until I'm not depressed and angry about this any more. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Aug 5, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 12:37 |
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is that...good?
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 18:07 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:The Germans tried that with the E-100, everything old is new again.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 19:01 |
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bewbies posted:what we have taken to calling jabba the tank
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 19:44 |
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bring back the caracole, in my opinion
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 19:53 |
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Koramei posted:cavalry and firearms have coexisted and complemented each other for centuries, therefore cavalry will last forever
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 23:14 |
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Koramei posted:i hope the official military term for them is still dragoons
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 23:21 |
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you guys wanted to know what (middle class and up)(civilian)(dutch) beds would have looked like in the period, right? http://www.sandragulland.com/a-treasury-of-information-on-daily-life-in-17th-century-holland/ of course you do quote:The Vermeer household of 3 or 4 adults and 11 children had few blankets. People slept sitting up, two to a bedstead, propped up by pillows. The children slept in wheeled drawers which slid under the bed.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 00:46 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:Not enough sleep! Ug, so unhealthy
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 01:27 |
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feedmegin posted:Sure is! on the other hand, their dissolution in 1918 means the regiment was never filled with nazis, so there's that
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 12:03 |
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Someone just posted this in the map thread note the clear superiority of The Empire, specifically Bohemia, and the part where nobody gives a poo poo about England. Edit: You might even call it..."the heart of Europe" HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 6, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 19:17 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:I like how the known world ends at Moscow, and then it's just ocean.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 20:04 |
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my dad posted:I'm starting to suspect that Loophole 14 is actually the result of the pointlessness and stupidity of the Italian Front crystallizing into a rock with a hole in it. Jesus Christ.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 15:47 |
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Fangz posted:Do they basically have a guy with a sniper rifle sitting watching spots like that all day, in case someone's head appears? is laibach still part of the Empire in 1916? idk
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 16:03 |
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feedmegin posted:Edit: For two more years, yes
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 16:09 |
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a setup like that, but with a hook gun because you can't get great distance out of a black powder gun without a big bore too, is probably what killed that one king of sweden, not a jacket button fired by one of his own men sorry!
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 16:13 |
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you can also get newspapers from the enemy country relatively easily, which considering reporters would mention any military plans they could get their hands on, was sometimes a huge hassle for generals on both sides.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 18:39 |
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 20:32 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 13:27 |
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it's part of a complex symbolic alphabet of alluding to poo poo, which as a relatively well educated guy (he went to three colleges and was only kicked out of one for killing a guy(not sure he ever graduated tho)) wallenstein would have been familiar with. like i don't remember who it was who did it but some anti-Imperialist produced a play about Jason, Jason stole the Golden Fleece, the Golden Fleece is a Hapsburg order of knighthood, this is a covert reference to victory over the Hapsburgs and therefore a relatively sick burn for the well educated where magic comes in is that you can also influence your life by producing this stuff, like when the french king depicts himself as the sun at an official dance that's going to literally and for real strengthen his kingdom see eros and magic in the renaissance and the work of frances yates for more i mean, wallenstein might be both mental and way too loving wealthy, but everyone who was anyone would have known what this meant HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Aug 8, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 21:15 |