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pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Can someone explain what was so special about that extra millimeter between the 76mm and 75mm?

I mean I get it upped the penetrating power but was there a muzzle velocity change as well or something? Otherwise I don't see how a single mm makes a difference.

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pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
On, Pappenheim!

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

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MrMojok posted:

OK tankophiles, I know of no better place to ask this.

My Dad just texted me raving about "Fury", a movie I have been wanting to watch. He told me a bit about the plot, and when he got to the point about "lone tank holding off 300 Wehrmacht troops" I said something like "RIP, boys"

I am no armor-head, but it has always been my understanding that a single tank without supporting infantry vs enemy infantry is pretty much hosed. Then Dad says "Yeah Hollywood, but something like this did really happen" and quotes the wiki article about the film, which claims that the film was inspired by a story in "Death Traps", a book which I haven't read, but have heard mentioned in these milhist threads several times. Wiki says it was a disabled(!?) tank that had a bunch of German troops walk up on it without spotting it at night, and the next morning the tank was still there and alive with lots of dead Germans around it.

Can anyone tell me about this? Cursory googling leads me to believe the story is possibly apocryphal, but I don't know.

I'm going to watch the film regardless based on his recommendation, but I find it difficult to believe a single tank with no supporting infantry of its own could hold its own against large numbers of infantry then, now, or ever. They cannot even see well enough out of the tank, to defend themselves. Am I correct, naive, or maybe just ignorant?

Also, what did you folks think of the film overall, if anyone saw it?

The middle act is quite good. The more combat-oriented first and third acts are, as Jobbo_Fett said, fairly unrealistic, but otherwise pretty well done in terms of effects and style and not so ridiculous that it's not fun to watch. The grog in you will squirm a bit, though.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
I was just flipping around in Netflix the other day and noticed there is a Jarhead 2 and Jarhead 3, both of which, judging by the poster art, hilariously seem to be the exact type of macho shoot-'em-up movie the first one isn't.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Yvonmukluk posted:

So I have a question about US helmet covers in WWII. Specifically if anyone has sources on GIs making their own in Europe. I know that the army experimented with camo uniforms in Europe but they dropped them pretty quickly. I've read stuff about making cloth covers of their own, does anyone have ideas what sort of fabric they would use? Just OD?

Not really answering your question but in the defense of Bastogne, they used the white bedsheets and towels the townspeople gathered up and donated. The Army even gifted a bunch of that stuff to the town after the war.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
I was always taught that David hit Goliath right in the temple, which was the only small unprotected spot on his dead due to the helmet he was wearing, so in that sense it was a miraculous shot. But that also sounds like it might be embellishment - it sounds a lot like Smaug being hit on the missing scale.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
How much time do modern tank crews spend training with the various backup fire control systems?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Mycroft Holmes posted:

Does anyone have any information on what WWI would have looked like (combat plans, technology, politics, etc.) had WWI continued into 1919?

It would have looked a lot like this:

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

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Nenonen posted:

had Empire opted for quad turbolaser turrets then Empire would have won the battle of Yavin :colbert:


It turns our four turbolaser turrets is unworkable due to the interference between the rounds in flight. Haven't you ever read Castles of Carbonite?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Lot of people in this thread need to read or reread Shattered Lightsaber. Jon Parshall really knows his Star Wars.

Seconding this. Among other things, Parshall debunks the myth (based on Imperial sources now known to be self serving) that the Death Star was about to fire when it was destroyed at the Battle of Yavin. It turns out the constant launching of TIE fighters disrupted operations so much that they were still in the process of recharging the ion modulators at that time, and wouldn't have been able to strike for at least half an hour.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Mr Enderby posted:

A World Lit Only by Fire, by William Manchester, springs to mind.

Can you give more detail on this? I read it recently and had a vague memory of hearing that it was inaccurate.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Tias posted:

Without the program, we wouldn't have pop supergroup Abba! Frida Lyngstad was born in an SS Lebenborn creche that recruited from Sweden and Norway :eng101:

I have not had my mind blown like this in quite some time. I literally need to take some time to process this.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
When I was a kid we had a Volkswagen Dasher that had the tires from a Yugo for some reason. They were loud as gently caress - you basically had to scream from the back of the car to be heard in the front. Later in life I realized that that was not the norm.

Also, I was lucky to spend two weeks in Belgrade as a kid in the mid-eighties, as my parents were good college friends with the First Secretary to the US Ambassador there.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Several pages back there was a link to some neo-Nazi propaganda posters. A number of them were specifically anti-abortion. Was that always a Nazi thing, or is that a modern absorption of current American right-wing beliefs?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Eastern North Carolina was where the Goldsboro B-52 incident occurred so nothing of value would have been lost.

I just finished Command and Control, and if I recall correctly didn't he say that the fallout may have drifted up to DC? That's one way to drain the swamp.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Cyrano4747 posted:

There's also a lot to be said (at least from the white perspective) for a social order where even the poorest farmer is unequivocally above some other guy.

This is the part I find most interesting. I know a lot of the aristocracy argued that this was the ideal social order, as poor white men at least didn't have to dig ditches or work in sweatshops - there were slaves for that. They preached that it was a superior structure for the poor (whites), compared to say the industrialized North. Did poor white men buy into this? I mean, I know they probably did internally, as we can see the success of turning the poor against each other still today. But publicly was it something they talked about or agreed with?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
I think Kursk was not "incidental?"

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

OwlFancier posted:

Why does Seattle have a car park full of various tanks?

It's some kind of Tankfest thing. I saw an ad awhile ago if Facebook.

Edit: that must have already happened.

pthighs fucked around with this message at 01:56 on May 14, 2017

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
My wife is from Hawaii, and spam is a cornerstone of their cuisine (think party finger food), presumably since for a long time it was the only reasonably cheap meat that could be shipped and preserved there. The salty nature fits well into the existing Hawaiian and Japanese-influenced cuisine. It has no stigma there whatsoever. One popular dish is Spam Musubi, basically a sushi-like rice roll with slabs of fried spam inside.

Edit: Regarding beer-soaked brats or beans, you really get different flavors depending on the beer, and oftentimes a cheap beer will give a bit more pleasant taste overall.

pthighs fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Jun 17, 2017

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Has the growth of YouTube and the Internet in general produced any increase in the numbers or ferocity of the "disruptive history student?" It seems like it is much easier to absorb half-baked ideas these days.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
I think the last WWI vet died just a couple of years ago.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
I would likely kill/not kill for ice cream, whichever was asked of me.

Edit: If it's mint chocolate chip

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Whats the dod's answer for their extremely fat recruitment pool?

My dad told me that during basic training in the Vietnam era they made you do the monkey bars down and back before lunch, and if you didn't make it then you didn't eat lunch that day.

So that for every meal.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Can someone explain why Hooker became a euphemism for prostitute? I read Foote's books and he mentions it but doesn't really explain why.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Cyrano4747 posted:

His staff officers hung around D.C. a lot and we're a bit notorious for frequenting the brothels. Think swanky Victorian brothels not s cheap whore house.

The joke was that the ladies might as well be on the staff and were called "Hookers girls". This got shortened and stuck around.

Thanks! It's interesting socially how something like that sticks, as I'm guessing he's not the only guy who's staff had that issue.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

the autro-hungarian navy is one of the few world militaries to be an important plot point in a movie about singing nuns, so there's that

Nunsense is really good.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

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Cyrano4747 posted:

I kind of feel that, if after reading an author's book I know for certain what one of his PornTube search terms is, somewhere there is an editor who didn't do his job.

Way late on this but I just read my first Phillip K. Dick book and he is definitely a breast man.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Let's see ... do I want a partisan, spontoon, or partisan-spontoon?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
The problem is the monuments aren't honest about what happened.


The Battle of Liberty Place Monument posted:

McEnery and Penn having been elected governor and lieutenant-governor by the white people, were duly installed by this overthrow of carpetbag government, ousting the usurpers, Governor Kellogg (white) and Lieutenant-Governor Antoine (colored).

United States troops took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election of November 1876 recognized white supremacy in the South and gave us our state.

Also, because the specific struggle of African Americans is still underway, it's f'd up to make a black kid go to Jefferson Davis High School. Maybe a thousand years from now it won't matter, but it does today.

Edit: More specifically, the monuments under discussion were mostly put up in the early 20th century specifically to intimidate black people. They aren't authentic.

pthighs fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Oct 31, 2017

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Xerxes17 posted:

For home defense, wouldn't a Halberd be quite excellent?
-more reach than a baseball bat
-significantly more reach than a knife
-hell, probably has enough reach to let you rush someone who has a gun
- lets you axe someone a question as to why they're here
-don't need to worry nearly as much about accidentally killing someone.

Rounding hallway corners might be difficult.

Yet another reason to go with the modern open layout.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Clarence posted:

Training.

I'm picturing a montage.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Question regarding the draft (my number came up). Did everyone get shoved into the infantry or were there aptitude tests and such to sort into different roles.

I've got an electrical engineering MS. Does that mean I would be working in electronics or something?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Many Americans believe Jesus is making things happen for them every day. Including many members of the military.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Serious question: Was Contra the 1980s video game named for the Nicaraguan Contras?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Not good for urban environements - commander too exposed.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
You could go with fermented mare's milk drank by Mongols.

Does Rob Roy count?

Or noted Prussian General Harvey Wallbanger

pthighs fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Dec 31, 2017

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

HEY GUNS posted:

Speaking of 1918, I just noticed someone in d&d talking about this year's flu, and it made me wonder: what is the historical background for us thinking flu isn't a serious disease? People are surprised whenever it kills people, and they really shouldn't be, considering.

I think it's that the term "flu" gets thrown around a lot for things that aren't actually the flu. Hence people don't take it seriously.

Also, people don't bother to get vaccinated for serious stuff like Polio, etc, so why the flu?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

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HEY GUNS posted:

chest and neck: a star fort

I've always felt you were difficult to approach.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Arquinsiel posted:

Blue is actually the national colour of Ireland.

Mind == Blown

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pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
I just finished book 20 in the Master and Commander series. Do I bother with the last unfinished one or pretend it ends there?

As an aside I started the series right around the last US presidential election. It has been strangely comforting.

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