Good Day, Mister Kubrick

Best Stanley Kubrick film?
	Fear and Desire
	Killer's Kiss
	The Killing
	Paths of Glory
	Spartacus
	Lolita
	Dr. Strangelove; or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
	Apollo 11 Moon Landing Footage
	2001: A Space Odyssey
	A Clockwork Orange
	Barry Lyndon
	The Shining
	Full Metal Jacket
	Eyes Wide Shut

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Egbert Souse posted:

I think it's funny how 2001 holds up extremely well and 2010 was dated almost immediately.

2001 is hopelessly dated not because of PanAm but the by fact that they use Descriptive rather than Algebraic Notation when playing chess with HAL9000

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Professor Shark: May 22, 2012

Watched The Shining with my girlfriend last night, she hadn't heard of it before. It was a great rewatch, I'm reading about it on Wiki now and it seems like both Stephen King and whoever wrote large chunks of the page were butt hurt little babies over the differences between the amazing film and the goodish novel.

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Riot Bimbo: Dec 28, 2006

Professor Shark posted:

Watched The Shining with my girlfriend last night, she hadn't heard of it before. It was a great rewatch, I'm reading about it on Wiki now and it seems like both Stephen King and whoever wrote large chunks of the page were butt hurt little babies over the differences between the amazing film and the goodish novel.

King was initially pretty upset over kubrick's changes yeah, and he's probably never gotten over the fact that Kubrick took his story, made it better, and told the version of the shining everyone knows and cares about if they don't read stephen king books.

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Professor Shark: May 22, 2012

I think the most obvious positive change was switching the goddamn croquet mallet to an axe

Like what the Hell

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Roque mallet.

It's like croquet, only different.

The book points this out several megadozens of times.

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Code Jockey posted:

Also I'm Private Pyle, AMA

What is your major malfunction, anyway?

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Egbert Souse: Nov 6, 2008

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Aug 14, 2016

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gleebster posted:

What is your major malfunction, anyway?

SIR I DON'T KNOW SIR

*smiles retardedly*

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Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

hemophilia posted:

King was initially pretty upset over kubrick's changes yeah, and he's probably never gotten over the fact that Kubrick took his story, made it better, and told the version of the shining everyone knows and cares about if they don't read stephen king books.

I think the movie is v good but honestly I like the plot and characters in the book a lot more.

Stephen King's thing is basically: 'typical of Hollywood, the woman's role got turned into a shrill bitch. Also, the alcoholism was not really a thing in the movie (which was largely the point of the book) and we didn't get to see Torrance slowly go nuts bc he was pretty nuts from the very start.'

I feel like that's a fair critique to make? Idk they're just different and I like em both a lot.

e: i also have a soft spot for King I guess, full disclosure

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Aug 14, 2016

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cheerfullydrab posted:

People who didn't answer Barry Lyndon are people who are wrong about movies and, by being wrong about movies, show that they are probably wrong about other things in the world and in their own lives specifically.

You could take stills from almost any scene in Barry Lyndon and frame them and put them in the hall of somebody's apartment and nobody would ever question that they were regular normal art while on their way back from the bathroom or something.

Agreed. Objectively great movie. I bet if a kid had never watched tv before and you put it on in a room adjacent to where they were playing, the kid would sit right down and watch the whole thing, even if there wasn't any popcorn.

_Loser_ posted:

Alright, well you fuckers did it. I went and grabbed a copy of Barry Lyndon and holy poo poo, beautiful. How the hell have I never heard of this movie before this thread?

My only guess is that it gets overlooked because people don't really go in for period drama that isn't Les Miserables (bullshit soaps for mental midgets).

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hemophilia posted:

Eyes Wide shut was the last Kubrick movie I watched for the first time. I haven't seen Barry Lyndon or a few others, I'll get around to it, but Eyes Wide Shut legitimately scared the gently caress out of me. The sex and relationship stuff took a huge backseat for me as Kubrick managed to make the Illuminati stand-in the scarriest poo poo i've ever seen put to film.

People talk about the Shining like it's spooky, especially people old enough to have seen it during the theatrical run, but that poo poo is just standard spooky to me. Eyes Wide Shut gave me a full blown mental crisis.

I don't really get that. The weird Illuminati stuff was vague enough that it wasn't really that menacing. I mean, the chances are equally good that it's just as it appears - a wealthy group of socialites who want guilt-free sex and make a kinky masquerade about it. Stuff like that is probably as old a civilization. Of course they'd try and suss out any interlopers, but that's just 'cuz scrutiny and scandal might hurt their vanilla lives.

It really didn't make me think "oh wow, evil Satanic cabal that controls global affairs" so much as "horny dentists with a flair for the dramatic."

Then again, I didn't really like the movie. There were some good scenes. Nicole Kidman's confession was well done and surprisingly heartbreaking.

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Egbert Souse: Nov 6, 2008

Eyes Wide Shut is a black comedy for the first half, then turns serious when Harford goes to the orgy castle.

That's why the ending is brilliant. Kubrick basically says if you want a real sexual experience, go home and gently caress your wife. Everything else is grotesque.

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Riot Bimbo: Dec 28, 2006

Yeah, in Eyes Wide Shut, hartford's infidelity is a rapidly escalating nightmare, and by the time he's at the orgy the film has arrived at something that actually scares me instead of being another erotic thriller. Maybe I'm being hyperbolic in that post about it but it's a spooky film to me. Horror as a genre never gets a rise out of me, but Eyes Wide Shut did what the horror genre does for some people, to me.

There is almost a point to make you doubt whether it's grand and far reaching or local elites and their gently caress club, there are deaths that could easily be murder casually explained away as overdose, which mirrors real life, except we're given a 2nd hand perspective on one such case, for example, that' legitimately can't be handwaved away as paranoia and can go the other way towards being part of a conspiracy.

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Professor Shark: May 22, 2012

Moridin920 posted:

I think the movie is v good but honestly I like the plot and characters in the book a lot more.

Stephen King's thing is basically: 'typical of Hollywood, the woman's role got turned into a shrill bitch. Also, the alcoholism was not really a thing in the movie (which was largely the point of the book) and we didn't get to see Torrance slowly go nuts bc he was pretty nuts from the very start.'

I feel like that's a fair critique to make? Idk they're just different and I like em both a lot.

e: i also have a soft spot for King I guess, full disclosure

From what I read today Kubrick was so unsatisfied with the actress that he reduced her character considerably, to the point she just smiles when happy and screams when scared

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Riot Bimbo: Dec 28, 2006

he also reduced the actual actress, shelley duvall, for it, and by the end where she's acting crazy as hell is a product of Kubrick wearing the actress down.

That's the legend anyway I don't want to :effort:

for verification

Riot Bimbo fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Aug 14, 2016

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The General: Mar 4, 2007

hemophilia posted:

he also reduced the actual actress, shelley duvall, for it, and by the end where she's acting crazy as hell is a product of Kubrick wearing the actress down.

That's the legend anyway I don't want to for verification

That's sounds like Kubrick to me.

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Egbert Souse: Nov 6, 2008

I think Shelly Duvall is amazing in The Shining. There's enough hints that it must be complete hell at home when Jack isn't away or at work. Even when he's not on the bottle.

Wendy is a worn-out shell. Consider how she's only relaxed when it's just her and Danny. Worse, she's having to do practically all of the work that Jack was hired to do so Jack can dick around with his writing. There's also the subtle misogyny. What's the first thing the owner shows Wendy when they arrive? The kitchen. Or how Jack ogles the woman in the bathtub (which turns out to be a rotting hag).

Basically, The Shining is about how domestic abuse is scarier than anything supernatural. That's why I think Kubrick put that whole section near the end with the bear suit guy, skeletons, the bloodied guest, etc.. You just saw the scariest part of the film with Jack tearing down the door with an axe.

For that matter, the axe scene is important because it's a homage to Broken Blossoms and The Phantom Carriage. Both of which involve drunks and the latter is a ghost story.

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Professor Shark: May 22, 2012

Reading the wiki confused me because there is all kinds of stuff about some alternate version of Jack once existed at the Overlook in the 20's.

I assumed that if the Overlook "gets you", you're just absorbed into its history. Jack was taken in by the hotel in the late 70's, therefore he's "always been there".

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Egbert Souse: Nov 6, 2008

Professor Shark posted:

Reading the wiki confused me because there is all kinds of stuff about some alternate version of Jack once existed at the Overlook in the 20's.

I assumed that if the Overlook "gets you", you're just absorbed into its history. Jack was taken in by the hotel in the late 70's, therefore he's "always been there".

I thought of it more as a metaphor for Jack now being part of the past. Wendy and Danny are now free of Jack's wrath. I'm convinced a lot of the weirder things near the end were Kubrick just having fun with imagery. Everyone talks about the bear suit guy and the photograph at the end has been referenced countless times.

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I watched A Clockwork Orange for the first time in like a decade last night. Still a great movie, and I probably appreciated it more now then I did back then. I could go on a for awhile about it, but the big thing that I never noticed before was that the first half of the movie up until Alex gets arrested is a ballet. Blew my mind a little bit.

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Egbert Souse: Nov 6, 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0WDKcCH9Lo

Slightly :nws:

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Money Bags: Jun 27, 2013

Egbert Souse posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0WDKcCH9Lo

Slightly

What Hitchcock is this? I'm unfamiliar with his work.

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Egbert Souse: Nov 6, 2008

Money Bags posted:

What Hitchcock is this? I'm unfamiliar with his work.

Mostly footage from Vertigo and Rear Window, with some bits from The Man Who Knew Too Much.

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ColtMcAsskick: Nov 7, 2010

Rewatched Barry Lyndon. That dude needs to chill the gently caress out and realise when he's got it good cause he is the common denominator in causing his problems.

Like 4real dude you have a hot super rich wife and live in a manor. What loving more do you want

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ColtMcAsskick posted:

Rewatched Barry Lyndon. That dude needs to chill the gently caress out and realise when he's got it good cause he is the common denominator in causing his problems.

Like 4real dude you have a hot super rich wife and live in a manor. What loving more do you want

It's a tragedy. "Chilling the gently caress out" is taking the ammo out of Chekov's gun.

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