GoonTier 2016: NFL Fantasy Promotion/Relegation Keeper League (Season 4)

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Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

2016 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2015 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2014 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42
2013 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42

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updates

No more kickers this season
Paypal me 20 bones at zypher @ gmail dot com (Kazak_Hstan)
Tier B draft is Sunday, Sep 4th at 9:00 PM eastern / 6:00 PM pacific
One last slot open to replace known lazer kazak_hstan

League Links
Tier A: The Tier Jerkers
Tier B: The Trail of Tiers

Tier A draft order

code:


1. Boywunda
2. Zypher
3. OYM/DK/pokeman
4. jabro
5. suave fedora
6. mikey purp
7. darkspider42
8. bobby2times
9. dewey
10. parmesan basil
11. chen kenichi
12. zeroordie

Tier B draft order

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1. Anubis
2. old dog child/3 dong horse
3. von metternich
4. HiroProtagonist
5. Master Stur
6. baser instinct
7. ffoecaf
8. TubeStank
9. azhais
10. Ches Neckbeard
11. Lock
12. Professor Moriarty

Traded Picks

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2017 Waiting List

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Zypher fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Dec 29, 2016

# ? Aug 8, 2016 04:19

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 01:18

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Rules

What is Promotion / Relegation?

Wikipedia posted:

In sports leagues, promotion and relegation is a process where teams are transferred between two divisions based on their performance for the completed season. The best-ranked teams in the lower division are promoted to the division above, and the worst-ranked teams in the higher division are relegated to the division below.

Tier A (the Tier Jerkers) is a keeper league. Tier B (the Trail of Tiers) is a redraft league. Sucks to be in Tier B.

Buyin: $20
Website: ESPN
Tiers: 2
# of teams per tier: 12
# of teams promoted each year: 3 winners of a 6 team playoff
# of teams relegated each year: 3 losers of a 4 team playoff
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout
Roster: QB 2 RB 2 WR TE FLEX 1 DL 2 LB 2 DB DFLEX 7 BN IR
Scoring: 0.5 PPR, otherwise ESPN Standard

IDP Scoring

quote:

Tackle Solo: 1
Tackle Assist: .5
Sack: 3
Interception: 4
Fumble Force: 3
Fumble Recovery: 3
Defensive Touchdown: 6
Safety: 6
Pass Defended: 1
Block Kick : 6
Tackles for Loss: 2

Payout
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout

quote:

1st place: $115
2nd place: $40
3rd place: $20
Highest points total each week of regular season: $5 (x13)

Keeper System

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A) Every keeper has a one round penalty.
B) Penalties that can't be enforced will transfer to the next highest keeper.
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
D) All penalties must be enforced.
E) The following season, keeper value is based off the highest of the following: 1) The round drafted in the previous season or 2) their draft value last season prior to any transferred penalties.
F) Once a player hits free agency in any form, that player is no longer eligible to be kept the following season.

Example:

code:

2012 Draft:
1.) Drew Brees
2.) DeMarco Murray
4.) Percy Harvin
16.) Alfred Morris

2013:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
 	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (2nd rounder) 
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
3.) Harvin (4th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
13.) Morris (16th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Brees
	-1 for keeping DeMarco

2014:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (3rd rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
8.) Morris (13th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
 	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)

2015: 
Can�t legally apply penalties to keep only Brees, DeMarco, Harvin, and Morris. 
One way to fix this is to let go one or more of the players. 
Another possibility is to keep 2014 20th round pick Johnny Manziel to absorb additional penalties.

2015:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (2nd rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
4.) Morris (8th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
17.) Manziel (20th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Manziel
	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	-1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd rounder (Harvin)

Supplemental Draft
Every year at least three teams in Tier A will be disbanded. The players comprising their rosters will be put into one large player pool. Teams from Tier B will be promoted to take their place, and they will be able to select keepers from the player pool in a supplemental draft.

Any players selected in the supplemental draft will retain the same value they would have if they were kept by their previous owner. For example, if a relegated team drafted Andrew Luck in the 14th round, drafting Andrew Luck in the supplemental draft would let the new owner keep him in the 13th round (barring any other penalties).

Owners will have an unlimited number of picks in the supplemental draft, but their keepers must abide by the same keepers rules as the rest of the league. Once every owner opts out of the draft, and the commissioner determines that their keepers adhere to the league's keeper rules, the supplemental draft is over.

The supplemental draft will be in order of their finish in Tier B. The draft will snake.

Draft Order
The first year the draft order will be randomized. After that, the two tiers will follow the following draft order:

Tier A
1: 1st place Tier B
2: 2nd place Tier B
3: 3rd place Tier B
4: 9th place Tier A
5: 8th place Tier A
etc, etc

Tier B
1: 10th place Tier A
2: 11th place Tier A
3: 12th place Tier A
4: 12th place Tier B
5: 11th place Tier B
etc, etc

The draft will snake. Every attempt will be made to accommodate a live draft.

Trades
Trades will now process instantly. I'll obviously reserve the right to veto extreme attempts at collusion / cheating. We've got a good group of people here, so I doubt it'll ever come to that.

Trade deadline is the last week of the season.

Trade Draft Picks At Your Own Risk
Future draft picks can be traded in Tier A. However, keep in mind that the draft picks of a relegated team are valueless.

Furthermore, if you trade your own future draft pick to a team, your rights to that draft pick are forfeited (even if that team is then later relegated).

Ties
During the regular season, matchups can result in a tie. It's not very likely because we're using fractional points, but I've seen it happen before.

Overall record determines playoff seeding. Ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

During the playoffs, ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

Relegation Cannot Be Avoided
If someone in Tier A decides not to continue on next season for whatever reason, their roster will join the player pool for the supplemental draft and an additional team from Tier B will be promoted to take their place.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 04:20

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

following

# ? Aug 8, 2016 04:22

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Sweet.

.

keepers for the other jerks:

zeroordie

code:

1 +1	Odell Beckham Jr (2015 1st)
1	Ameer Abdullah (2015 2nd), Rob Gronkowski (2013 5th, 2014 4th, 2015 2nd)
2	Antonio Brown (2013 6th, 2014 4th, 2015 3rd), Todd Gurley (2015 3rd)
4	Lamar Miller (2014 6th, 2015 5th)
6	Jamie Collins (2015 7th)
9	Kelvin Benjamin (2014 11th, 2015 10th)
15	Donte Moncrief (2015 16th)
16	Carson Palmer (2015 17th)

bobby2times

code:

1 +1	AJ Green (2013 2nd, 2014-15 1st)
1	Melvin Gordon (2015 2nd)
2	Keenan Allen (2015 3rd)
3	Chris Ivory (2015 4th)
4	Luke Kuechly (2015 5th)
6	DeSean Jackson (2015 7th)
7	Jason Witten (2015 8th)
8	Russell Wilson (2014 10th, 2015 9th)
10	Muhammad Wilkerson (2015 11th)
13	CJ Mosley (2014 15th, 2015 14th)

jabro

code:

4	Emmanuel Sanders (2014 6th, 2015 5th)
5	Cam Newton (2014 7th, 2015 6th)
7	Tom Brady (2015 8th)
9	Golden Tate (2013 12th, 2014 11th, 2015 10th)
20	Telvin Smith (2015 21st)

Suave Fedora

code:

No 4th rounder (traded away)
No 6th rounder (traded away)
1+1	Randall Cobb (2014 2nd, 2015 1st) 
1	LeVeon Bell (2014 3rd, 2015 2nd), Latavius Murray (2015 2nd)
4	Drew Brees (2015 5th), Allen Robinson (2015 5th)
6	David Cobb (2015 7th), Brandin Cooks (2014 8th, 2015 7th)
8	Stevie Johnson (2015 9th)
12	Martellus Bennett (2013 15th, 2014 14th, 2015 13th)
17	Travis Kelce (2014 19th, 2015 18th)

Parmesan Basil

code:

1	LeSean McCoy (2015 2nd)
2	TJ Yeldon (2015 3rd)
3	Jarvis Landry (2015 4th)
4	Jeremy Maclin (2015 5th)
6	Reshad Jones (2015 7th), Sammy Watkins (2014 8th, 2015 7th)
8	Alec Ogletree (2014 10th, 2015 9th)
11	Justin Houston (2015 12th)
13	Tyrann Mathieu (2015 14th)
14	Kendall Wright (2015 15th)
15	Tyler Eifert (2015 16th), Carlos Dunlap (2014 17th, 2015 16th)
18	Richard Rodgers (2015 19th)

Chen Kenichi

code:

1 +1	Matt Forte (2013-15 1st)
2	Amari Cooper (2015 3rd)
3	Brandon Marshall [WR] (2015 4th)
4	Ben Roethlisberger (2015 5th)
9	Deandre Hopkins (2013 14th, 2014 12th, 2015 10th)
10	Brandon Marshall [LB] (2015 11th)
14	Jameis Winston (2015 15th)
15	Kevin White (2015 16th)
19	Darren McFadden (2015 20th)

Mikey Purp

code:

1 +1	Julio Jones (2014-15 1st), DeMarco Murray (2013 3rd, 2014 2nd, 2015 1st)
3	TY Hilton (2013 9th, 2014 7th, 2015 4th)
5	Shane Vereen (2015 6th)
6	Eric Weddle (2015 7th)
8	Brandon LaFell (2015 9th)
9	Danny Woodhead (2015 10th)
12	Antonio Gates (2015 13th)
14	Pierre Garcon (2015 15th)
15	Eli Manning (2015 16th)

dewey7788

code:

1 +1	Calvin Johnson (2013-15 1st), Dez Bryant (2013 2nd, 2014-15 1st), Aaron Rodgers (2013 2nd, 2014-15 1st)
4	Giovanni Bernard (2015 5th)
5	Paul Posluszny (2015 6th)
7	Duke Johnson (2015 8th)
8	Devonta Freeman (2015 9th)
9	Mark Ingram (2014 17th, 2015 10th)
10	Eric Decker (2015 11th)
12	Preston Brown (2015 13th)

darkspider42

code:

1 +1	Jamaal Charles (2013-15 1st), Jordy Nelson (2013 4th, 2014 2nd, 2015 1st), Julius Thomas (2014 2nd, 2015 1st)
2	Andrew Luck (2013 5th, 2014 4th, 2015 3rd)
3	Lavonte David (2013 8th, 2014 7th, 2015 4th)
4	Doug Martin (2015 5th)
5	Rashad Jennings (2015 6th)
8	Jordan Matthews (2014 13th, 2015 9th)
11	John Brown (2015 12th)
14	D'Qwell Jackson (2015 15th)
16	Alshon Jeffery (2013 19th, 2014 18th, 2015 17th)

Zypher fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Aug 14, 2016

# ? Aug 8, 2016 04:37

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

Zypher posted:

Sweet.

Paypal $20 to zypher at gmail dot com

sent

# ? Aug 8, 2016 04:39

von Metternich: May 7, 2007; Why the hell not?

Money sent.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 04:56

Azhais: Feb 5, 2007; Switchblade Switcharoo

Money sent

# ? Aug 8, 2016 05:14

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Money sent.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 05:31

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

money also sent

# ? Aug 8, 2016 13:11

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

Money will be sent soon. I love my amazing team.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 15:08

Boywunda: Jun 25, 2003

Money will be sent soon.

By when do I need to make a decision on my first supplemental pick?

# ? Aug 8, 2016 15:40

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

How much time do you want? We normally allowed 24 hours per pick but I also gave a lot more heads up in the past that it was happening.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 16:43

Boywunda: Jun 25, 2003

Money Sent. Was just curious if I could sit on it a bit, waiting to see about injuries, etc.... But I'm ready to make my first pick now.

Adrian Peterson as my first round pick. And a penalty to be applied on my next pick.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 17:03

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

I'll take Carlos Hyde, then. poke-man is on the clock with two picks

Supplemental Keepers

code:

updated below

Boywunda

code:

1 +1	Adrian Peterson

Zypher

code:

11	Carlos Hyde

Zypher fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Aug 8, 2016

# ? Aug 8, 2016 17:14

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

I'll take Mike Evans and Derek Carr

# ? Aug 8, 2016 19:49

Mikey Purp: Sep 30, 2008; I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.

Sent my

Also, I hate to be that guy, but my whole family will be staying with me from August 26th through September 5th, so my drafting window during those dates is pretty much non-existent. On the bright side, I can make almost any time outside of those days, so hopefully it all works out. If I have to autodraft, so be it.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:03

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Philip Rivers. Boywunda is back on the clock with two picks.

As a reminder, you can bow out at any time so long as you have a legal keeper situation.

Supplemental Keepers

code:

Boywunda

code:

1 +1	Adrian Peterson

Zypher

code:

11	Carlos Hyde
16	Philip Rivers

Dandy Yo Poke-man

code:

7	Mike Evans
19	Derek Carr

Zypher fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Aug 11, 2016

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:12

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Tier A

This below from Mikey Purp would leave ONLY this upcoming Sunday unless we started exploring week days. Short notice, but does this Sunday NOT work for anyone? I can make it happen. If that doesn't work for anyone, totally fine. We'll figure it out.

Mikey Purp posted:

Sent my

Also, I hate to be that guy, but my whole family will be staying with me from August 26th through September 5th, so my drafting window during those dates is pretty much non-existent. On the bright side, I can make almost any time outside of those days, so hopefully it all works out. If I have to autodraft, so be it.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:21

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

This Sunday doesn't work for me if it's like any time before 9:30 EDT

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:29

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

I assume you mean 9:30 PM eastern

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:33

Mikey Purp: Sep 30, 2008; I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.

Just for the record, I'm open to weekday drafts and get out of work relatively early every day, so I could make most times work.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:41

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

Sunday night works for me but I'm gonna have to do some crash research :sweatdrop:

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:42

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Zypher posted:

I assume you mean 9:30 PM eastern

The only time of day and time zone that matter.

I'm also not against a weeknight draft, but I randomly work nights so I'm like 75/25 on those. I do know my schedule for the whole month already though if we did a doodle or something

Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Aug 8, 2016

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:48

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

FWIW, weekdays I can probably only do Monday or Tuesday nights.

HiroProtagonist posted:

Sunday night works for me but I'm gonna have to do some crash research

Wrong tier

# ? Aug 8, 2016 21:59

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

If that's the case then 15th/22nd/23rd and the day after Labor Day are the only ones that work for me. I'm working on the 16th/29th/30th

# ? Aug 8, 2016 22:14

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Will pay after work. I'm gonna be starting a night shift soon so Tier B draft would be best on Fri or Sat for me. Oor weekdays 3 or earlier (PST).

# ? Aug 8, 2016 22:40

Master Stur: Jun 13, 2008; chasin' tail

Money sent

# ? Aug 8, 2016 23:35

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

I'm good pretty much any day after 7pm EST but Labor Day weekend (including Monday) is pretty dodgy.

# ? Aug 8, 2016 23:55

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

I'm also pretty good any time after seven on most days. Also, Zypher, do we have a keeper deadline? I'm mulling over my last few choices.

# ? Aug 9, 2016 00:14

Green Gloves: Mar 3, 2008

Is there a spot for the Tier B thats still open?

# ? Aug 9, 2016 00:32

dewey7788: Oct 10, 2004; Don't Toews me bro!

Money sent. I'd rather do a weekday draft instead of having it this weekend.

# ? Aug 9, 2016 00:49

Suave Fedora: Jun 10, 2004

dewey7788 posted:

Money sent. I'd rather do a weekday draft instead of having it this weekend.

Same. But I'll add the modifier of "late August weekday draft".

# ? Aug 9, 2016 01:15

Boywunda: Jun 25, 2003

Greg Olsen (5-1 penalty = 4th) and Marcus Mariota(17).

Unfortunately, this Sunday does not work. Haven't doodled yet, but will soon. I'm going away from the 14th to the 21st. Any day after that works. Most weekdays work as well.

# ? Aug 9, 2016 04:50

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

I paid and doodled and I'm excited for no kickers :toot:

# ? Aug 9, 2016 05:02

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Copy. This Sunday Tier A draft is officially dead -- I'll start exploring Mondays and Tuesdays

Green Gloves posted:

Is there a spot for the Tier B thats still open?

There is but there's a couple ahead of you on waiting list. Adding you just in case.

Parmesan Basil posted:

I'm also pretty good any time after seven on most days. Also, Zypher, do we have a keeper deadline? I'm mulling over my last few choices.

Once we set the draft date, I'll reverse engineer a deadline

Boywunda posted:

Greg Olsen (5-1 penalty = 4th) and Marcus Mariota(17).

Taking Jeremy Hill. Poke-man back on the clock

Supplemental Keepers

code:

Boywunda

code:

1 +1	Adrian Peterson
5	Greg Olsen
17	Marcus Mariota

Zypher

code:

7	Jeremy Hill
11	Carlos Hyde
16	Philip Rivers

Dandy Yo Poke-man

code:

7	Mike Evans
19	Derek Carr

Zypher fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Aug 11, 2016

# ? Aug 9, 2016 05:22

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

I'll take Bowman and call it a day since you fucks took all three of the guys I wanted

# ? Aug 9, 2016 11:42

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Taking Edelman. Boywunda on clean up duty.

Supplemental Keepers

code:

Boywunda

code:

1 +1	Adrian Peterson
5	Greg Olsen
17	Marcus Mariota

Zypher

code:

5	Julian Edelman
7	Jeremy Hill
11	Carlos Hyde
16	Philip Rivers

Dandy Yo Poke-man

code:

5	NaVorro Bowman
7	Mike Evans
19	Derek Carr

Zypher fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Aug 11, 2016

# ? Aug 9, 2016 16:17

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

lol, I drafted Edelman minutes after he hurt his surgically repaired foot. Awesome start to the season.

# ? Aug 9, 2016 16:45

Boywunda: Jun 25, 2003

I'll finish with Rashad Johnson and I'm all done.

# ? Aug 9, 2016 17:14

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 01:18

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

A world where Watt hits waivers....

# ? Aug 9, 2016 17:24

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