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Who cares about fashion. Let's talk about that Daffy Duck poster.
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Payndz posted:I'm currently ripping my B5 DVDs to take travelling. Other than the final episode, is any of S5 essential? (It takes my computer over half a day to rip a season, and I don't have a huge amount of time left.) All I can remember of it is that it felt like JMS had shot his bolt by cramming the Shadow and Earth storylines into S4, the episode with the two grease monkeys hero-worshipping the main cast, and that I absolutely loving hated Byron. Byron and the telepath stuff is pretty well confined to the first half of the season. The second half is heavily Centuri-focused and is really good.
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Sep 19, 2016 20:58
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The first half isn't actually so bad if you can get over Byron being too good at being the annoying cult leader There was this one weird-looking, bug-eyed, kinda toothy little guy who I always thought would have been better at being the cult leader than Byron. It was hard buying Byron's persecution conflict when the guy looked like loving Fabio.
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Sep 19, 2016 21:00
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Data Graham posted:I feel like I just watched the seed being planted that would later grow into a hundred "cinematic" scenes in TV dramas from BSG to Breaking Bad. Babylon 5 is full of these seeds. It's part of what made it great in the 90s and keeps it great today.
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Oct 12, 2016 02:08
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Vord posted:Thanks for all the quick suggestions everyone but Step one: twirl mustache Step two: eloquence Step three: ???? Step four: prophet! Step one could also be "chew scenery"
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Nov 11, 2016 15:57
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? So far all I can think of is "It's a strange thing, but every sentient race has its own version of these menthol lights." But I'm not real sure about that one.
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Thanks to whomever posted the link to go90.com with all episodes streaming. I'm into the latter parts of Season 2. First time I've re-watched the series since, oh, the early 2000s. I forgot all about the fate of the Markab in "Confessions and Lamentations." That's some heavy poo poo. I'm also noticing a lot of world- and character-building that I missed, like Franklin's growing Stim addition and Garibaldi's alcoholism. In fact, with Garibaldi, it looks like it was Londo that got him to drink his first drink, in the episode where Londo is all sad about how his new "friends" all seem to want something. He waits for Garibaldi at the bar and, when Garibaldi finally shows up, he drinks a colorful drink instead of his usual water. It's possible the first drink came in an earlier episode--I only watched the highlights of Season 1--but I'm pretty sure that was it.
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Apr 26, 2017 03:50
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Jun 18, 2017 00:38
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Baka-nin posted:Yeah I was hoping when I saw twenty+ replies in this thread that it was just a slap fight. I really liked Vir, he was one of my favourites. I liked the subplot where he's been using his connections to smuggle Narns out of the warzone. Abrahamo Lincolni! I recently re-watched the series, and it really did cement Vir as one of my favorites. He noticeably learns and grows throughout the series. He becomes capable without becoming corrupted. He learns to work within the system and, when necessary, without it in order to do what is ethically and morally correct. Makes me wonder what Londo would have been like had he listened to Vir more often. I often felt like Vir was Londo's Jimminy Cricket: always there, always saying the right thing, and always ignored.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:02
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Yeah there are 2,500,000 creatures on that station, plus all the equipment necessary for them to live and eat. Space is at a premium.
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Jun 27, 2017 15:20
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pentyne posted:Of by a factor of 10x. Still, there must've been 30-40k people living in extreme poverty on the station at least. Whoops, yes. I was even saying "a quarter million" in my head as a typed that. Still got it wrong.
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Jun 27, 2017 22:21
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's fascinating in that you can kinda see what the original version was like from the scripted lines, with G'Kar just quietly (or threateningly) enjoying getting to watch Londo die, but it is so much more G'Kar that he sees it all as a grand cosmic joke. He doesn't have to kill Londo, he doesn't have to do anything and he still gets to watch him die ...I hear you!
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Jun 28, 2017 06:13
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hangedman1984 posted:While Sheridan had plenty of badass lines, I like Delenn 's various verbal pawnages even more. Her "Why not?" in Severed Dreams is my favorite Delenn line. The rest of the speech is fine, but that "why not?" has just the perfect degree of dismissal. "Why not? Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
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Jun 29, 2017 20:17
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:S2E12 "Acts of Sacrifice" Ivanova owns in that episodes and it's hilarious watching her deal with those Darwinist assholes.
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Jun 29, 2017 21:34
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:
They'd have the most cordial conversation and then, the moment the other was out of sight/earshot, they'd begin a full-scale investigation.
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Oct 5, 2017 14:19
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SeaQuest was my jam even if it was hokey as gently caress
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Oct 20, 2017 15:57
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:seaQuest DSV season 1 is still my jam. I think that bridge set is the best ever. I really liked the set design on that show, yes. I remember growing bored of the series later in its life. It may well have been a dropoff in quality between S1 and S2. I don't remember enough details to say.
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Oct 20, 2017 16:23
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Dirty posted:But then Michael Ironside showed up. Everything is better with Michael Ironside. I'm ignoring the fact it was cancelled about 10 episodes later. What you're saying is that I should rewatch SeaQuest, right?
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Oct 20, 2017 16:47
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Vorlons are the worst
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Oct 20, 2017 23:50
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Now I’m picturing Goofy as Sheridan. Gawsh, get the heck out of our galaxy, ayup.
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Dec 22, 2017 23:04
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You should be noticing an uptick in quality starting any time now. It just ramps up from there.
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Feb 10, 2018 23:53
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Belbos Computer posted:Yeah you were totally right. I blew through the rest of season 2 last weekend and am now almost through season 3! That high lasts until the end of S4. For real. You get like 2.5 series of nonstop greatness. And Season 5, while the first half is fairly slapdash, picks up about halfway through and stays awesome until the finale, which is among the greatest show finales of all time.
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Feb 20, 2018 07:49
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fist4jesus posted:And Space jack the ripper. Another low point. Comes the Inquisitor is an unskippable episode. It is incredibly important to both Delenn and Sheridan's characters and the looming Vorlon/Shadow conflict. Plus the actor who plays Jack is super menacing. I love everything about that guy. But... The premise is silly, the acting is not up to par with the concept, and the philosophy is juvenile. It's an episode that really wants to be better than it is. It's so close to greatness, but that difference is the difference between lightning and lightning bug. Ultimately, I sort of dread this episode on each re-watch. There are some conceptually similar episodes with G'Kar/Londo later in the series that work much, much better because those actors are capable of selling it.
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Feb 22, 2018 20:02
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Wayne Alexander. Same actor as the Drazi ambassador, Lorien, and like a dozen bit parts. Basically a regular cast member, just not often as the same character. I knew he was Lorien but not the Drazi. I can 100% see it now though. Drazi ambassador is my favorite guy out of the League, he's always so...blunt.
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Feb 22, 2018 20:25
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Once you've watched the show through a few times, you can pick him out even in all the different alien prosthetics he gets into. Haha yeah it's 100% clearly the same dude when you compare Lorien and the Drazi ambassador. I'd just never really thought about it before. I really love that Drazi guy, though. He's my favorite background character just for how consistent he is. For any of you doing a re-watch, keep track of how many times he flat-out murders a negotiation. Things are moving along, no one's really happy but they're compromising, then BOOM. Drazi guy swoops in and shoots the fledgling deal in the head, drops his mic, and walks out. The camera lingers on Ivanova's sad face before it fades to black.
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Feb 23, 2018 06:57
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Jedit posted:That's because the Drazi are one of the most powerful races in the League, along with the Markab, Brakiri and Pak'mara. The Pak'mara get pushed into the background a lot because they don't speak - in fact they were originally meant to be the race destroyed by plague; the Markab got it instead because JMS felt they were more relatable - and the Brakiri were to some great degree a replacement for the Markab as League front men so it wasn't all Drazi all the time. Oh yeah I totally get that's why he has the power to do what he does, but I love the characterization in the way he does it. Dude has an impressive chip on his shoulder (as do most Drazi, they're one of the most belligerent species on the show). I find him funny, and I always picture the command crew sitting around, bitching about this guy. Sheridan: "...and then, the Drazi ambassa--" Ivanova: "Let me guess. He starts yelling." Sheridan: "He starts yelling! And then..."
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Feb 23, 2018 16:55
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Narzack posted:When is the best time to watch the Gathering? Should I wait to the end, watch it now, or does it not matter? Doesnt it take place before the first episode? The best time to watch the Gathering, for the average watcher, is never. If you're a fan, or know you're gonna power through regardless of what you see in the first season, or if you're capable of separating the interesting parts (the worldbuilding) from the bad parts (almost everything else), then you watch it first.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:44
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Narzack posted:So, since I'm in the first few episodes of season 2, I could just watch it now? Yeah, it's the pilot. It's just not very good.
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Jun 11, 2018 21:24
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McSpanky posted:Prequels and revivals just can't resist this stuff. Fictional setting spanning the galaxy? Ten people controlled the destiny of the universe from high school to retirement (and probably beyond). I hate this sort of clockwork universe bullshit. I'll love The Last Jedi forever simply because it ran screaming from that. Not everyone needs to be a skywalker, kenobi, or whatever.
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Jun 12, 2018 21:32
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CountFosco posted:Centauri religion is basically just copy-pasted from Roman Imperial religion. Everything Centauri is either inspired by the Romans or the French.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:06
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Pick posted:Especially their dicks ooh la la!
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Jul 2, 2018 20:08
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Kingtheninja posted:Ahhh holy poo poo you guys the centauri just beat the narn and londo is stone cold demanding g'kar go to trial. Sheridan looked like he was going to murder londo for yelling at him. That scene is where the Londo/G'Kar relationship kicks into high gear, elevating both of them to new, unforeseen heights.
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Jul 19, 2018 17:57
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nerdman42 posted:If people are looking for new B5 reactions, quasi-popular internet reviewer Mark Oshiro is going through each episode now. Just started season 2 this week. This guy is mildly insufferable. I Like he’s totally cool and good until something or someone triggers him, and then he’s the worst. I loved his watch of Avatar the last Airbender, until I very very much did not.
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Oct 26, 2018 01:52
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Galvanik posted:Well I'm curious, what did he find so objectionable about Avatar? Apparently thinking that Azula might be mentally ill is forbidden and any discussion of it makes one an ableist, bigoted rear end in a top hat. This despite her sociopathic manipulation of her friends, her breakdown at the end, and the face that the nicest character on the show literally says “she’s crazy.”
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Oct 27, 2018 14:45
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Burning_Monk posted:Yep, it's fascist as hell. EarthGov.txt
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Oct 29, 2018 17:16
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Hazborgufen posted:Works for me. Mostly it's been swapping a couple episodes here and there but then I saw people posting flowcharts with movies mixed in at various points. Also something about watching the last episode of season 4 after watching all of season 5 and how the show runners agreed that the order the show aired was not their vision. Or something. I know the exact watch order you're talking about. It's designed for people with short attention spans who want to see the high points of the show, and the context necessary to enjoy those high points, without the slower/outdated/weird episodes that would otherwise drive them away. It's good at that purpose, but you miss out on a lot of the subtle character interactions that make B5 a classic. Go back to it if you get too bored to continue, because peak B5 is better than no B5, but you'll be rewarded by watching the show in order, warts and all. If you think The Gathering is alright, and you didn't stop after Soul Hunter, then you're probably good to go. It only gets better from here.
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Nov 4, 2018 18:07
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wizzardstaff posted:The psi corps commercial about little Johnny was so cheerily sinister. I love the little psi corps commerical. It's a standout moment in a show with lots of those. Also, I remember reading that JMS actually had to take care not to run afoul of rules/laws about subliminal messaging with the little TRUST THE CORPS blip in the middle of it
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Nov 8, 2018 03:24
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wizzardstaff posted:e: and of course he does. That was a great episode, got to be in my top 5 so far. I missed my train stop by being too engrossed with Londo and G'Kar trapped in an elevator. That is quite possibly the best single scene in the series. There are a lot of other great scenes, but that particular one is transcendent.
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Nov 16, 2018 03:05
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Baron von der Loon posted:PURPLE The show was originally written for 5 seasons. They found out they weren't getting a fifth season sometime in S4. So they crammed all the super crazy important stuff in, and cut a lot. Then they got Season 5 after all (on a different network), and had to build a full season at the last minute.
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Dec 7, 2018 17:47
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Right? In the entire Minbari war, Earth only took out a single Minbari cruiser, and the Vorlons are as far beyond (if not farther) the Minbari as the Minbari were beyond Earth.
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ThingOne posted:That scene between Londo and G'kar in the council chamber was incredible. At the risk of extremely minor spoilers: could you be more specific?
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