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value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

On that note: has anyone ever asked you to make a dildo that's assumably copyrighted? Like a dick based off the Capra Demon?

Also how the hell do you put vibes into vibrators? Is that a thing you've done?

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Dildomancer
Aug 8, 2016

No sense of right or wrong.

Wedemeyer posted:

On that note: has anyone ever asked you to make a dildo that's assumably copyrighted? Like a dick based off the Capra Demon?

Also how the hell do you put vibes into vibrators? Is that a thing you've done?

Yes, people have. I've always said no. Even if it's "just one copy" or "they don't make it anymore," it's entirely unethical.

Putting vibes in is as simple as putting a void into the base. Then you get a bullet vibrator online and stuff it in the crevice. If it's a particularly cheap toy and you're not worried about preserving it, you could cut a slit into an intact silicone toy and stuff one in there.

Now if you actually want a vibrator built in, things get a bit trickier. You can get some very cheap cell phone vibrator motors online and wire up a simple circuit with a switch and a battery pack, but those are super weak. I'd still rather buy the bullet and embed it in the silicone as it's curing. If you spray a little release agent, it could be taken out and replaced as needed.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Dildomancer posted:

Some folks purposely induce the vaginal equivalent with a suction cup. Sleep well~

:allbuttons:

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet


Now google "urethral sounding."

FormerPoster
Aug 5, 2004

Hair Elf

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Now google "urethral sounding."

Or save yourself the trip to google and go find the E/N thread about the guy who ended up in the hospital twice after trying to do this with a bike pump.

But yeah, great threat OP. I used to do resin modeling with Smooth-On products and it never once occurred to me that I could be using them to make dildos. Talk about a wasted opportunity...

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

Dildomancer posted:

Yes, people have. I've always said no. Even if it's "just one copy" or "they don't make it anymore," it's entirely unethical.

Putting vibes in is as simple as putting a void into the base. Then you get a bullet vibrator online and stuff it in the crevice. If it's a particularly cheap toy and you're not worried about preserving it, you could cut a slit into an intact silicone toy and stuff one in there.

Now if you actually want a vibrator built in, things get a bit trickier. You can get some very cheap cell phone vibrator motors online and wire up a simple circuit with a switch and a battery pack, but those are super weak. I'd still rather buy the bullet and embed it in the silicone as it's curing. If you spray a little release agent, it could be taken out and replaced as needed.

MY god, you can copyright dildos? Huh. I suppose that makes sense. How big was your operation in general? Just you or did you enlist some coworkers into the dildo army? :v: And seriously, what the hell drama could there be about making dildos? Orgasms are such a happy business!

And thank you for answering so many questions! This is one of the best threads in a while :allears:

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Now google "urethral sounding."

I heard second hand from the medical thread about the kid who broke he own dick doing this but never read it specifically. Got a link?

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Naerasa posted:

Or save yourself the trip to google and go find the E/N thread about the guy who ended up in the hospital twice after trying to do this with a bike pump.

But yeah, great threat OP. I used to do resin modeling with Smooth-On products and it never once occurred to me that I could be using them to make dildos. Talk about a wasted opportunity...

the ol' spicy dickhole?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Now google "urethral sounding."

No.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Are suction cup bases possible with simple molds or do those require special equipment?

elise the great
May 1, 2012

You do not have to be good. You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves.
I just want you to know that this thread has made my (horrified, fascinated, vaguely nauseated) day and I salute you, fellow purveyor of admittedly very different filth.



Wedemeyer posted:

Perhaps they were expecting Thranduil elf cock and not dragon dick :v:

My LotR nerd glands require me to question how different elf cock is from a regular fleshtone floppy rubber dilz. DOES IT SPARKLE. VERY IMPORTANT.

Pondex
Jul 8, 2014

elise the great posted:

I just want you to know that this thread has made my (horrified, fascinated, vaguely nauseated) day and I salute you, fellow purveyor of admittedly very different filth.


My LotR nerd glands require me to question how different elf cock is from a regular fleshtone floppy rubber dilz. DOES IT SPARKLE. VERY IMPORTANT.

It's probably like the most amazing sparkly dick you ever saw but it's only 2 inches long.

Dildomancer
Aug 8, 2016

No sense of right or wrong.

Naerasa posted:

But yeah, great threat OP. I used to do resin modeling with Smooth-On products and it never once occurred to me that I could be using them to make dildos. Talk about a wasted opportunity...

Oh, I still haven't told the story of how Smooth-On called me at work! I can get to that this afternoon.


Wedemeyer posted:

MY god, you can copyright dildos? Huh. I suppose that makes sense.

Like in many other fields, a lot of it comes down to how good your lawyer is. Current thinking (at least on Tumblr) is that you can't make a clone of a toy, or one with all the same basic features unless It is visually distinguishable. You can't name a toy the same thing as someone else has. "Ovipositor," "chimaera," "hybrid," all that stuff is taken so you need to be creative. The exception here is toys modeled directly off animals: if you're making a horse or dog dildo, it's going to look like the real thing, and that's a clear-cut case of prior art.

Now here's where it gets weird: some artists and their fans are also very protective of color schemes. I got some hatemail because I made a toy that was... red, black, and silver, I think, and unbeknownst to me, that was someone else's signature color scheme. Seems ridiculous to me, but then again, you can copyright and sell colors...


Wedemeyer posted:

How big was your operation in general? Just you or did you enlist some coworkers into the dildo army? :v: And seriously, what the hell drama could there be about making dildos? Orgasms are such a happy business!

And thank you for answering so many questions! This is one of the best threads in a while :allears:

It was about 90% me and 10% my wife. At my peak I was making 3-5 a day after work which ate up an hour or two on top of my other two jobs. I considered hiring someone (a lot of people online even asked me for a job) but then I'd have to worry about a lot more paperwork and regulations.

The drama, though, is unending. I made a Five Nights at Freddy's themed toy by request and someone got very upset because the puppets in FNAF have the souls of children and I was condoning pedophilia. There is all kinds of random BS like that.

I'm very glad you like the thread :)


kaschei posted:

Are suction cup bases possible with simple molds or do those require special equipment?

They are super easy. Drop anything round and buoyant into the silicone once it's been poured into the mold. I use custard dishes in a couple different sizes, as well as a PVC pipe cap for small toys. Suction cups take thirty seconds of effort, tops, and nobody should be charging extra for them.


elise the great posted:

I just want you to know that this thread has made my (horrified, fascinated, vaguely nauseated) day and I salute you, fellow purveyor of admittedly very different filth.


My LotR nerd glands require me to question how different elf cock is from a regular fleshtone floppy rubber dilz. DOES IT SPARKLE. VERY IMPORTANT.

Holy poo poo, how did I gross you out, Elise? Honored to have you post here!

Elf cock, hmm? Depends on the race. If we're talking LotR elves, yeah, sparkly and pale would work. I could use the flesh pigment and add some white mica to achieve those effects. As for the design, add some flashy metallic accents in the shape of leaves, maybe have a pointy tip like their ears.

You could actually make a whole line of LotR-themed toys. Glow-in-the-dark blue Sting, a squirting toy with little spines modeled after Shelob, a big fat bumpy orc cock (wait, that's already been done), even Sauron's finger (with or without The Ring) would be a pretty cool shape. Of course, demand for each of these would be overshadowed by the Shadowfax - both in flared and unflared flavors.

Pondex posted:

It's probably like the most amazing sparkly dick you ever saw but it's only 2 inches long.

Maybe it's long but super skinny and prehensile. Got twigs and bark growing on it, often mistaken for branches. Great camo when you're a voyeur hiding in a tree.

Dildomancer fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Aug 17, 2016

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Dildomancer make the elfcock and post it TIA

(that'd be worth a :five: and goldmine imo)

Gibbo
Sep 13, 2008

"yes James. Remove that from my presence. It... Offends me" *sips overpriced wine*
Whoever granted a patent or trademark or whatever on ovipositor should be taken outside of a library and beaten to death with a series of biology books and a dictionary. How the hell can you claim tm on an anatomical term.


You may as well grant trademark to someone naming a dildo "the penis".just



I would love to see a dildo making competition show where people are given a theme or keyword and x amount of time to craft something.


Today's theme is "Armadildo". Late night HBO or something.

Now I'm kind of surprised I've never seen a multi ridged dildo with that name. Though I don't doubt it probably exists.


Do you like to name your creations or is it just "Order number 428, the Christmas tree one"?

Gibbo fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Aug 17, 2016

elise the great
May 1, 2012

You do not have to be good. You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves.
I mean, I see a lotta gross dicks, but nobody's trying to put some giant edematous heart failure scrote up their bunghole. This is really something special. Also thanks for launching me into a morbid spiral of wondering just how terrible elf dicks could be. (Ever notice how there are male human + female elf babies, but no male elf + female human babies? I bet there's something real wrong with elf dicks. What is wrong with me.)

I'm deathly curious about this ovipositor thing. Is it just a dong-shaped thing with a female bug-parts name? Is it associated with the giant egg thing? Like, obviously it's not gonna lay eggs in your butt, so what makes the difference between an ovipositor and an orc dick or whatever?

Also is most of the drama just kink policing and ~problematic callouts~ and tumblr bullshit, or does it get darker and uglier than that? I can see custom dildo sales having a really unpleasant doxxing problem.

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
Oh Elise. I hate to break it to you but the ovipositor is specifically designed to lay eggs in your butt.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

elise the great posted:

Like, obviously it's not gonna lay eggs in your butt

hahahahahaha

elise the great
May 1, 2012

You do not have to be good. You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves.
Ha ha you guys very funny

/googles "ovipositor dildo"

:psyboom:




e: IT LAYS EGGS IN YOUR BUTT.


ee: IT REALLY DOES. IT LAYS EGGS IN THERE. THAT IS A REAL THING. MY PT HAS A ROTTEN SCROTUM FULL OF FLESH-EATING BACTERIA THAT ARE TUNNELING INTO HIS ABDOMEN AND THIS IS STILL THE MOST hosed-UP THING IVE SEEN TODAY. I CANT CALM DOWN

elise the great fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 17, 2016

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

We talking hard boiled or what....?

Pile of Kittens
Apr 23, 2005

Why does everything STILL smell like pussy?

IIRC they're made of gelatin so they melt at body temperature and don't poison you.

Hey, there's a way to get polonium into someone!

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

try anal prolapse porn, it's a thing.

Dildomancer
Aug 8, 2016

No sense of right or wrong.

Carth Dookie posted:

Dildomancer make the elfcock and post it TIA

(that'd be worth a :five: and goldmine imo)

I could totes do that, but threads in A/T don't get goldmined.


Gibbo posted:

Do you like to name your creations or is it just "Order number 428, the Christmas tree one"?

They've all got names. Sometimes the best you can do is name it something generic, or name it after whoever commissioned it.


elise the great posted:

I'm deathly curious about this ovipositor thing. Is it just a dong-shaped thing with a female bug-parts name? Is it associated with the giant egg thing? Like, obviously it's not gonna lay eggs in your butt, so what makes the difference between an ovipositor and an orc dick or whatever?

Your heart already knows the answer, even if your mind does not believe it.


elise the great posted:

Also is most of the drama just kink policing and ~problematic callouts~ and tumblr bullshit, or does it get darker and uglier than that? I can see custom dildo sales having a really unpleasant doxxing problem.

It is MOSTLY Tumblr bullshit, thankfully. I did my best to delete stuff that people complained about because I was already getting a lot of hatemail and my real name was on every package I mailed out. If I'd thought things through a little better, I'd have gotten an LLC and a PO box, but I had no idea it was ever going to be anything more than a quirky hobby.


Pile of Kittens posted:

IIRC they're made of gelatin so they melt at body temperature and don't poison you.

Hey, there's a way to get polonium into someone!

There are silicone eggs as well. And glass eggs, if you're feeling extra adventurous~

I've never trusted glass dildos. People tell me they're safe, but I can just picture slipping in the tub, and then some poor surgeon has to perform emergency bowel resection along with exploratory glass removal. Speaking of which,


sbaldrick posted:

try anal prolapse porn, it's a thing.

I have been told that the 1 guy 1 jar video was intentional, and he was simply acting out his fetish. Very little would surprise me anymore.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Dildomancer posted:

I could totes do that, but threads in A/T don't get goldmined.



What kind of bullshit discrimination is this? If its good, it should be recognized. :smith:

photomikey
Dec 30, 2012

Dildomancer posted:

I have been told that the 1 guy 1 jar video
PSA: Don't google this.

And if you do, and you find it, don't press play.

And if you do, and you press play, and you can tell what's about to happen, STOP BEFORE IT DOES.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Gibbo posted:


Today's theme is "Armadildo". Late night HBO or something.

Now I'm kind of surprised I've never seen a multi ridged dildo with that name. Though I don't doubt it probably exists.


Google "armadillo dildo"

It's there.

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!

photomikey posted:

PSA: Don't google this.

And if you do, and you find it, don't press play.

And if you do, and you press play, and you can tell what's about to happen, STOP BEFORE IT DOES.

I had the misfortune of sitting at a computer a row behind two guys playing that very video during university while I was working on some lab. I also had no idea of what was about to happen. It rather shattered the mood and I had a hard time concentrating afterward.

photomikey
Dec 30, 2012

Sage Grimm posted:

It rather shattered the mood
I see what you did there.

take me to the beaver
Mar 28, 2010

Cyrano4747 posted:

Google "armadillo dildo"

It's there.

Excuse me, I believe the correct term is 'armadildo'

Edit: thought it was a joke but then I googled it and it's real bahahaha

Future Wax
Feb 17, 2011

There is no inherent quantity of driving that I can increase!

Dildomancer posted:

Like in many other fields, a lot of it comes down to how good your lawyer is. Current thinking (at least on Tumblr) is that you can't make a clone of a toy, or one with all the same basic features unless It is visually distinguishable. You can't name a toy the same thing as someone else has. "Ovipositor," "chimaera," "hybrid," all that stuff is taken so you need to be creative. The exception here is toys modeled directly off animals: if you're making a horse or dog dildo, it's going to look like the real thing, and that's a clear-cut case of prior art.

Now here's where it gets weird: some artists and their fans are also very protective of color schemes. I got some hatemail because I made a toy that was... red, black, and silver, I think, and unbeknownst to me, that was someone else's signature color scheme. Seems ridiculous to me, but then again, you can copyright and sell colors...

Do you have to keep tabs on what other people are making? Or do you just not purposely copy others' toys and hope that things sort themselves out? Because it seems like there would be a lot to keep track of if you wanted to make sure you didn't accidentally make something similar to another person's design.

Dildomancer
Aug 8, 2016

No sense of right or wrong.

Choose Deth posted:

Do you have to keep tabs on what other people are making? Or do you just not purposely copy others' toys and hope that things sort themselves out? Because it seems like there would be a lot to keep track of if you wanted to make sure you didn't accidentally make something similar to another person's design.

Since I've never really been in the market for toys, I have very little idea what's out there. I've probably got a passing knowledge of the most popular toys. I trust the people who give me designs not to just copy something from someone else (and you can often tell when someone does), but it's entirely possible they could be replicating an existing design without knowing it. Ultimately, I would know if I made a copy or near-copy of another toy if I posted a picture of the finished clay model and got my rear end flamed off on Tumblr.

Short story: it actually happened to me once, but the circumstances were unusual. I held a design contest: a bunch of people make designs, I let folks vote on the most popular, I make it and give the winner a free copy. Made it, thing looks goddamn fantastic, but then I got a couple confused/angry notes. It turned out that the winning design had also been proposed as a design for another manufacturer before the designer submitted it to my contest. The other manufacturer never actually made it into a toy AFAIK, so there was no real conflict, but that could've become very awkward. I emailed their head and explained what'd happened and there was no lasting drama or hurt feelings.

I wish it were easier to be proactive about not copying a design. Someone commissioned a toy with a piercing from me, and I figured that was a popular request, so I asked on Tumblr what kind of piercings had already been done - and got several ANGRY (literally shaking) replies. To paraphrase one of them, "How loving DARE you pretend like you don't know about ____'s toy! You're just trying to put them out of business you FUCKER!"

Stories like those are the main reason I don't sell dildos anymore. They're fun to make for friends, on occasion, but I can't deal with people bitching me out over imagined slights. The whole community is eighty percent hugbox and twenty percent nitroglycerine.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Do you mean that the idea of pierced junk is off limits to any dildo maker who cares what tumblr thinks? Or was it a specific design that was quite similar to another's?

Dildomancer
Aug 8, 2016

No sense of right or wrong.

kaschei posted:

Do you mean that the idea of pierced junk is off limits to any dildo maker who cares what tumblr thinks? Or was it a specific design that was quite similar to another's?

People just assumed I was asking not so that I could avoid stepping on toes, but so that I could copy other designs. You're fine if you do a piercing that hasn't been done. Hell, if it's a common type of piercing, you could probably do that with no problems as long as the dick it's on isn't a copy. This is just a situation where I stepped blindly into a minefield.

Chitin
Apr 29, 2007

It is no sign of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
I had never really considered it before, but I cannot think of any group of people more likely to be dramatic than the "Tumblr artisanal dildo community."

Build-a-Boar
Feb 11, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
As someone flat broke this sounds stupidly appealing as a business fuuucckk

Dildomancer
Aug 8, 2016

No sense of right or wrong.

dog days are over posted:

As someone flat broke this sounds stupidly appealing as a business fuuucckk

It's not going to solve an imminent cash flow problem due to the initial capital outlay and the slow growth of your customer base. But once things get going, yeah, it has the opportunity to be lucrative.

Sethur
Apr 18, 2007
I paid for this account with imaginary internet spaceship money.
Did you have previous experience in clay modeling, or did you just start from nothing and discover it's not that hard? I just feel like if I tried this I'd spend hundreds of dollars on equipment and materials and then end up unintentionally making nothing but "realistic turd" dildos.

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sethur posted:

Did you have previous experience in clay modeling, or did you just start from nothing and discover it's not that hard? I just feel like if I tried this I'd spend hundreds of dollars on equipment and materials and then end up unintentionally making nothing but "realistic turd" dildos.
Hey, at least you know there's a market.

Dildomancer
Aug 8, 2016

No sense of right or wrong.

Sethur posted:

Did you have previous experience in clay modeling, or did you just start from nothing and discover it's not that hard? I just feel like if I tried this I'd spend hundreds of dollars on equipment and materials and then end up unintentionally making nothing but "realistic turd" dildos.

I've always had a bit of a knack for clay modeling, origami, sculpting, that sort of thing. If you doubt your talents, well, you can grab that 1.75-pound block of Sculpey posted upthread and find out. You will also want a friend or two who like dildos to judge your design.

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Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

Chitin posted:

artisanal

tee hee

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