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elise the great posted:I dunno, humans are really into boobs, which are weird fat sacks evolved to feed babies. I think if your people have been jamming the ol' puntl into the proverbial cup o' noodle since they were picking lice under the eternal twilight, you probably think human pussy looks like Barbie crotch and wonder how humans even get off without so much as a stray pube up the dick. Apparently when a woman's nipples are stimulated her brain releases oxytocin, which encourages bonding with whatever human is doing the stimulating, be it a nursing baby or a sweaty dude. So a sexual interest in boobs is a good reproductive strategy for a man because it makes the woman more likely to stick around and the greater the number of sexual encounters the greater the chance for impregnation. Or so I've read.  So given that the human clitoris is actually a monster huge organ that wraps around the vagina, what are elf clits like? 
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I dunno, maybe clitoral tissue is integrated into the tentacle structures? I've got even less textual support for this, because JRRT was a Victorianist don and probably didn't believe in the existence of the clitoris. I mean, not that he was totally thumbing his chin and pondering the impact of rheseus-antigen immunology, but that he would probably find some (nauseated and angry) spark of sense in a mechanical barrier to elves boning each other out of wedlock, whereas the mechanisms by which female elves achieve orgasm would be sociologically irrelevant to him. I mean, if I was designing porno elf bajingae, obviously the clitoris would be the big gripping tentacle, although this might result in distressingly... prehensile shaft and glans behavior in the elven penis, since those arise from the same tissue. Eugh. It doesn't bear thinking about.
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elise the great posted:I dunno, maybe clitoral tissue is integrated into the tentacle structures? I've got even less textual support for this, because JRRT was a Victorianist don and probably didn't believe in the existence of the clitoris. I mean, not that he was totally thumbing his chin and pondering the impact of rheseus-antigen immunology, but that he would probably find some (nauseated and angry) spark of sense in a mechanical barrier to elves boning each other out of wedlock, whereas the mechanisms by which female elves achieve orgasm would be sociologically irrelevant to him. Good point on JRRT probably not sparing it much thought. I believe the actual size of the human clitoris is a relatively recent discovery, though the human clitoris is pretty much already a big gripping tentacle -- around the vag. Hmm, maybe Elf g-spot orgasms are pretty dang intense.
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Aug 26, 2016 20:30
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elise the great posted:Eugh. It doesn't bear thinking about. NO! No! You don't get to back out of this anymore!
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Aug 26, 2016 20:46
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VanSandman posted:NO! No! You don't get to back out of this anymore! Someone get Elise some gin, stat!
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Aug 26, 2016 21:14
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elise the great posted:I dunno, maybe clitoral tissue is integrated into the tentacle structures? I've got even less textual support for this, because JRRT was a Victorianist don and probably didn't believe in the existence of the clitoris. I mean, not that he was totally thumbing his chin and pondering the impact of rheseus-antigen immunology, but that he would probably find some (nauseated and angry) spark of sense in a mechanical barrier to elves boning each other out of wedlock, whereas the mechanisms by which female elves achieve orgasm would be sociologically irrelevant to him. Maybe something like in hyenas?
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Waci posted:Maybe something like in hyenas? If that were the case, we could expect a significant portion of elleth to die in childbirth. You know, Elise, if there's elven magic involved, Anything is possible. There could be symbiotic plant or fungal cells inside those tentacles, granting some manner of prehensile control over them, while the male antibody set precludes colonization of otherwise prehensile tissues. Perhaps, like cordyceps, this endosymbiont can also exert some control over the elves' CNS, forcing them to remain in sylvatic biomes. Spores, like mitochondria, are passed maternally. Does it make those pussy tentacles any less creepy when you consider they may be full of mycelia, squirming and writhing to ensure their own reproductive success?
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I mean, we're already dependant on a bunch of poo poo from across taxological domain lines that outnumbers our own cells for staying alive, so I guess adding some fungal cells would in a way be less weird than what we already have going on.
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Waci posted:Maybe something like in hyenas? That would explain why there are so very few elf babies.
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Most of the clay dildo models I make have a skeleton inside. This serves three purposes: to provide a rigid base to work off, to reduce the amount of Sculpey needed, and to allow it to bake evenly. There's no one material that makes a universally good skeleton. Wooden dowel: Cheap, easy to attach to whatever you're using for the base, can be trimmed down as needed with a sharp knife. However, cannot be bent, does not adhere well to Sculpey, and does not conduct heat well. Metal rod: Can be bent into shape easily, cheap, excellent heat conductor. However, cannot be trimmed once it is in place, more difficult to connect to the base, and does not adhere well to Sculpey. PVC pipe: Big (replaces a lot of Sculpey), easy to attach, extremely sturdy, adheres well to Sculpey. However, expensive, cannot be trimmed once it is in place, and cannot be heated to Sculpey's recommended 265 F. Use 240 F and cook for longer. Aluminum foil: Cheap, easy to shape and reshape, adheres decently well, conducts heat very well. However, does not hold its shape well, hurts your fingers, and is not as much fun to chew on. For this toy, I tried something new. We'll see how it works. Behold, the skeleton!   3x 12Ga speaker wire taped into a wide bundle for the shaft, 2x dense balls of foil for the acorns, and half a square foot of foil to bind everything together. Half the fun of this hobby is trying new things out to see what works. On to the roughing out~
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Holy poo poo I can't even tell you how excited I am about this sculpting project, I can't even bring myself to feel proper shame Dildomancer, you are truly a wizard.
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Roughing out is complete, and not a moment too soon: kneading a pound of Sculpey fresh out of the box is murder on your hands. This was an additive process, basically winding coils of Sculpey around the skeleton until you have an annelid-textured product larger than the final toy needs to be. The next stage (carving down to final size) I'll do tomorrow when the clay's cooled down a bit and regained some of its stiffness. For now, here's what we've got.  The lines on the green cutting pad in the background are at 1/2" intervals if you are looking for a scale reference.
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Elf vagina question. Wouldn't the tentacles etc. hinder the act of childbirth?
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RandomPauI posted:Elf vagina question. Wouldn't the tentacles etc. hinder the act of childbirth? Tentacles harbour beneficial bacteria, transferred to baby on birth?
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Human vaginas change in insane ways due to the body's chemistry at time of birth, so I don't see why elves would be different.
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My thinking is, it's one more thing the umbilical cord can get tangled in, one more thing to get in the way of child birth. I'd imagine that the tentacles might also make UTI's and whatnot more common.
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RandomPauI posted:Elf vagina question. Wouldn't the tentacles etc. hinder the act of childbirth? the tentacles reach in and yank the baby out with a good, hearty tug
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NachtSieger posted:the tentacles reach in and yank the baby out with a good, hearty tug
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RandomPauI posted:My thinking is, it's one more thing the umbilical cord can get tangled in, one more thing to get in the way of child birth. I'd imagine that the tentacles might also make UTI's and whatnot more common. You're assuming elves give live birth. Maybe they're hatched. Or maybe they poo poo out a pile of goo that gradually congeals into a person. Or that good hard yank thing. Baby baboons are strong enough at birth to help pull themselves out.
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Now that I'm carving it down, lol this is a tiny penis head. I guess if there's no adultery, there's no cockhead to plunge out sperm, and there's really no need for ellyn to have a nexus of sensory nerves in the Elise Canon. Still perfectly functional, though. While I'm doing the boring stuff, here is another dong I made. This particular design was deemed to be fantastic for vaginal stimulation by those who used it.   Though it's difficult to see (white on white), there's a conical bump about halfway down that, along with the nubs above it, seems to be the most popular feature.
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Dildomancer posted:Viewed from above: huh, i think i dated this guy in college
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Alright, the clay model is in its approximate final shape. Dimensions are good, proportions are good, the curve looks delicious. Now is the final chance to offer feedback before I go on with the final smoothing, adding those tentacle-guiding grooves, detailing the meatus, the acorns, the vestigial tentacles...       Interesting story: I lost my original wedding ring inside a clay dildo model. I know which one, too. It was only $100 and my wife's pretty understanding, so it'll probably stay in there for the rest of eternity.
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You're married? Why buy the cow etc. Also, looking really good.
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Geirskogul posted:You're married? Hey, I got married years before I started making dildos. The unlimited supply of free dicks is more of a fringe benefit. A note on clay: it is vulnerable to slump. That is, before it's baked, it will slowly deform. This dong is curved and therefore experiences a lot of internal stress near the base and the center of the curve. If left alone a few days, deep cracks will form and the toy will break into a few ragged chunks. Without the metal skeleton inside, it wouldn't have even withstood the initial steps of the building process without breaking. This is due to tension on the outside of the bend (extrados) pulling the clay apart. It's much stronger in compression than tension, so the compression on the inside of the bend (intrados) isn't really a problem. As soon as a tiny crack forms, whether due to a concentration of stress on the outer skin or a defect in the additive manufacturing process, it will quickly widen until the toy collapses. In industrial engineering, there are ways to mitigate this situation. My favorite is called laser peening - you shoot pulses of high-powered laser energy at the portions in tension, which vaporize a tiny portion of the material, causing a miniature explosion. That explosion permanently deforms the base material and adds a local residual compression that (partially or wholly) counterbalances the tension inherent in the product's design. If you operate such a tool, you become a laser peen0r.
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Beren confirmed tentacle fetishist.
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Dildomancer posted:
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sbaldrick posted:Sure it's in the clay one Yeah, silicone's only slightly denser than water (SG 1.07) and anything denser than that will sink into it. My ring is (was?) SG 15.6. The result would've been a dildo with a very obvious wedding ring embedded just below the surface at its tip. Romantic, non? If you're looking for a way to propose....
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elise the great posted:I dunno, maybe clitoral tissue is integrated into the tentacle structures? I've got even less textual support for this, because JRRT was a Victorianist don and probably didn't believe in the existence of the clitoris. I mean, not that he was totally thumbing his chin and pondering the impact of rheseus-antigen immunology, but that he would probably find some (nauseated and angry) spark of sense in a mechanical barrier to elves boning each other out of wedlock, whereas the mechanisms by which female elves achieve orgasm would be sociologically irrelevant to him. Didn't they only discover the clitoris in the late 90s, though? Well after Tolkien's death
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Not even Elise could have predicted how terrifying and appealing this puntl would turn out. It's got layer upon layer of bizarre sexuality and functional adaptations that hint at the horrors of elven reproduction. The clay is ready. A bit more smoothing of some of the more delicate parts is in order, but the toy is essentially complete. Let's take a look.  The cockhead is intended to allow easy penetration and guide the tentacle to its target. The end result resembles an anus, or perhaps some kind of leech.  I turned the balls into acorns as suggested. When you put a pair of them together, especially in this context, they look like breasts. Maybe something to distract your gaze so you don't spend too long staring at the cockhead.  Vestigial scrotacles! They turned out cuter than expected, probably because one's first impression when thinking of tentacles is "suction cups." Seen just above them, and in the next picture...  ... are grooves around the base of the shaft for those female appendages to restrict venous return and produce an erection.  The grooves continue up the shaft for guidance.  Here is the beast in its entirety. It is one of the strangest-looking things I've ever made, just from a visual perspective, and the concept behind it is... well, it's kind of insane, but in a good way, I guess. Anyway, I'll bake it tomorrow. For now, I'm drifting off to face my Ellyn-related nightmares.
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 i was actually thinking the other side of the acorn (the cap), but I think this is actually even better. Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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This, yes. Definitely getting one if/when available. Also  color options? Or do you have that set?E: I was thinking the cap, too, but this is almost like extra-vestigial (?) tentacles.
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Geirskogul posted:This, yes. Definitely getting one if/when available. Also I can make pretty much any color in the RGB colorspace, at least to within a good approximation, with the 10 different pigments I have. I have a decent variety of fluorescent pigments as well. It's also possible to do sparkly or glow-in-the-dark (though I'd need to order some more materials in the latter case). Then I could also do stripes, splits, fades, split fades, spirals, marbles, vertical splits, ribbons, all kinds of ridiculous poo poo. I think my favorite effect is a nearly transparent dong filled with little bits of fluorescent silicone.
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Dildomancer posted:I can make pretty much any color in the RGB colorspace, at least to within a good approximation, with the 10 different pigments I have. I have a decent variety of fluorescent pigments as well. It's also possible to do sparkly or glow-in-the-dark (though I'd need to order some more materials in the latter case). How transparent can silicone get, anyway?
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By the way, if anyone has second thoughts about the acorn-balls, let me know. I can still change them tomorrow if needed.kaschei posted:Do you have any pics of that last type? The kind I use is moderately opaque. It looks like this:  There are more transparent kinds, but they are either not body-safe or are a pain in the rear end to use. So when I say "nearly transparent" I mean kind of milky like that egg.
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You are a mad genius, and I salute you. (But not with a dick, since I don't have one. Yet.) Anybody else hear "laser peening" and start contemplating a space race with mirrored gamete receptacles? Just me? Oh well.
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This photo makes me think of the Monolith from 2001. I assume someone has made 2001 fanfic where the monolith is used as a dildo. A very uncomfortable one, presumably, but since when has that ever stopped anyone?
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