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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Sports Argument Stadium > The Ray Parlour > Generic Cup Thread - showcasing England's tournament depth
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lol Chelsea

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Watching this random BEin Channel online and seeing everyone come through the tunnel owns. Also Thierry and Pires hugged Gunnersaurus.

Edit: Might as well add lineups:

Arsenal: Martinez, Jenkinson, Gabriel, Holding, Gibbs, Coquelin, Elneny, Ramsey, The Jeff, Iwobi, Lucas
Subs: Macey, Bola, Bielik, Maitland-Niles, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Mavididi

Southampton: Forster, Yoshida, van Dijk, Bertrand, Clasie, Davis, Martina, Reed, Boufal, McQueen, Long
Subs: Lewis, Cedric, Rodriguez, Ward-Prowse, Hojberg, Stephens, Sims
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Sigh. Elneny didn't track his man again.

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lol West Ham.

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Holy poo poo those 3 saves from Adrian. West Ham should be down 2.

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Spangly A posted:

he'll either meltdown if we go 2 behind or be MOTM. it is his way.

After that sequence he is allowed to meltdown.

In other news Elneny is the least creative midfielder since Denilson

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Oof excellent body check from Yoshida

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Oh look Arsenal not covering a runner from midfield again.

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So...to continue my bitching Elneny didn't follow his man again (gently caress off into the sun) so Coq scrambled to cover for him and then Ramsey chased/ball watched instead of being in the middle of the pitch where he should have been.

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Boufal appears to be a very good player so far. He's torched both fullbacks already.

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I do not know what kind of player Ramsey is anymore, but he's been loving poo poo.

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Also lol suck it Utd.

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Spangly A posted:

ashley fletcher is really bad

It would appear this maybe incorrect?!?!??!?!

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Spangly A posted:

no he's garbage the finish was garbage and that was all Cresswell

more seriously he's not good enough and never will be, for the prem. He's quick, his touch isn't quite the worst in the team, but his finishing and absolutely every mental aspect of the game are both hilariously bad. That 2v2 earlier where he meekly ran behind Feghouli until the chance died is an example of how he plays every week.

Zaza's actually better at leading the line because at least he can rough people up but christ Zaza's been abominable and if we play him 3 more times we have to spend some ungodly amount of money on him

I think every time I've seen West Ham play Zaza has been noticeable in his ability to put himself about and then torpedo any actual offensive chance that was developing.

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Iwobi is really good. Xhaka as well.

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Please take Ramsey off and put on Ox

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Insurrectionist posted:

Arsenal really lucky here

Extremely.

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Insurrectionist posted:

Seems like Wenger should have tried starting a few more good players, instead of bad players

I forgot Perez existed until this game and I'll definitely forget afterwards too

He's been out with an ankle injury since the Reading game. I think he's been ok. Iwobi has been very good. Ramsey very poor.

Edit: Special mention also for Elneny. He was dreadful.

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Insurrectionist posted:

He hasn't been bad enough to stick to the brain I suppose

Apparently he's been decent in his previous few apps so I suppose everyone forgetting this match won't hurt him much

He's made a few poor passes in the attacking 3rd for sure. His 2nd against Forrest was decent, but hasn't played much otherwise.

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Ziggy Tzardust posted:

I don't know why everyone is saying that West Ham are better with 3 at the back. Apart from Palace and Chelsea, we've defended terribly. More than a striker, we desperately need a right-back in January so we can switch back to 4-2-3-1

You can have Jenkinson back

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Ramsey you loving oval office pass the ball

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Camberlain you gently caress :(

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gently caress you Ramsey. If you could be sold for 30 million I would take it in a heart beat.

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Congratulations Southampton. You were the better team. Wenger absolutely hosed the selection up. Elneny is one of the worst midfielders I have ever seen and why he starts ahead of Xhaka I haven't the slightest idea.

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blue footed boobie posted:

Ramsey used to be energetic, covered a lot of ground, did nice defensive work, and made smart runs. But for the last two years he's looked like he has absolutely no clue what he should be doing.

I agree and disagree. When he's on the wing I believe Wenger is trying to use him as a quasi midfield outlet/late runner into the box, kinda like Theo, and to provide space for Hector. Today he played as a number 10 like what he does for Wales and was exceptionally ineffective. Whether that's down to Perez not being on the same page, Arsenal not being afforded time/space like Wales, or a combination there of is hard to say. What I would say is that there were several promising attacks today that broke down either because he took many touches (much like that time period prior to his purple patch) instead of moving the ball quickly or he tried for a worldy when a simpler pass to a better positioned forward (Iwobi and Perez spring to mind) would have worked better. When he's in central midfield what you describe is exactly what he should be doing, but really hasn't done for 2 years.

Now after all those :words: I personally think that Ramsey let the purple patch get to his head and thinks that he's made it. "Hey I'm Aaron loving Ramsey check out this volley against Liverpool' and his play imo reflects that. The work effort is gone and the constant waving of his arms any time near the box demanding the ball only to turn it over or shoot instead of pass is becoming infuriating. With Wales he's hotshit and that's all well and good, but for Arsenal I'm sorry, but I think he's 4th at best. Alexis and Ozil basically demand the team be built around them and rightly so. Santi provides such great stability, creativity, and security that I rate him as more important. Arguments could also be made for Bellerin and soon maybe Iwobi. I think Ramsey is extremely lucky that Wenger is still around, because I do not believe another manager would continue to endure his current play.

I don't buy into the fact that he doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing. For all of Wenger's faults I do not believe you could survive as long he has with the consistency of results without your players having even a vague understating of what they should be doing.

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That's a joke of a call.

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Welp that's that then.

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Lol Arsenal are a dumpster fire

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Danny Welbeck will come on score and then die again.

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Is that NTR on Twitter?

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Great play all around for that save and a very nicely worked goal.

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loving hell that should have been 2.

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Daren Bent just scored...an own goal. It was funny. Leicester up 1 against Derby.

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It would appear Leicester are in fact quite bad. Down 2-1 now.

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loving lol. Moses literally took that touch so that he can dive.

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lol that's a hand ball.

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Blasmeister posted:

I want another 9 yellow carder

With Atkinson anything can happen :)

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Maybe don't leave Hazard wide open?

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Aaron Ramsey loving sucks

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Love Nacho Man

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