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for bleach, whenever you ask "was x aizen all along?", the answer is always "yeah, probably"
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Aug 24, 2016 19:10
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Serious Frolicking posted:for bleach, whenever you ask "was x aizen all along?", the answer is always "yeah, probably" .....the mod
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Aug 24, 2016 19:18
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Aizen's illusions were never consistent throughout Bleach. Like first, his fake corpse is revealed to have actually been his sword. He claims he can make a fly look like a dragon, and a lake look like a swamp. He needs an object unto which project an illusion. Next time he uses his powers against Komamura he creates an after image clone out of nowhere next to Tousen. Then, Turn Back the Pendulum, he reveals that the man Shinji thought was Aizen was actually a mook that was following him around. In Deicide, he switches places with Hinamori to get stabbed. Meaning that he needs a person to project his illusions into. And then, on his final fight with Yhwach he takes the places of Renji, Ichigo and himself all at once...only he loses an arm as Renji-Aizen, and then said arm is still missing when he goes Ichi-Aizen. Meaning that his illusions follow some ghost law of conservation of mass? 
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Aug 24, 2016 19:24
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IIRC While Unohana couldn't see through his illusion, she could sense that there was something off about the body. Maybe using the illusion on an already existing thing makes it easier to maintain or harder to for someone to pick up on?
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Aug 24, 2016 20:36
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she didn't just see the body, she did an autopsy on it.
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Aug 24, 2016 20:44
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lezard_valeth posted:Aizen's illusions were never consistent throughout Bleach. These are all consistent examples though, if explained properly. All of them use an object upon which to project an illusion. In the Komamura fight, Tousen is the object and the illusion is of Tousen and Aizen. In TBTP, it's the mook. In Deicide, it is Hinamori. In Yhwach, it is himself, which is why him losing his arm doesn't change. Actually, this progression of the application of his powers would be very clever if it were explained in a more understandable way.
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Aug 24, 2016 20:44
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Hell, in the last fight, Aizen's plan to "see if he could confuse The Almighty" could be better explained as him testing to see if Yhwach's perception of who/what is in front of him directly affects his vision. For example, if he sees "Renji" in front of him and looks into that Renji's future, will he see the future of Renji or the future of that person masquerading as Renji? If it is the former, this could have been a clever trick to destroy Yhwach's confidence in his own ability. He would try to fruitlessly rewrite the future only to see that the person affected is completely unaffected. Kyoka Suigetsu is an ability that could be used in interesting ways, but it really got wasted in lieu of sword-fighting. Aizen is a master of Kido only surpassed by Tessai and Hachigen and he could have done a lot more with Kido ability compounded with the ability to cast an illusion on any object. It suits him much better than having or using a sword.
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Aug 24, 2016 20:50
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And who knows how what limitations still apply to his illusion powers after he touched the Hoagie. Oh wait, the Hoagie told him to not use those powers again so that Ichigo could beat him. Imagine if he replaced his weird transformation arms race with "Hey, look at my sword!"
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Aug 24, 2016 21:32
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I like the complete lack of effort after getting close to his goal. That's very fitting for someone with Aizen's god-complex. It's even consistent with how he just forgot to keep using his power after Ichigo cut Yhwach down the first time. Actually, if any character has been consistent since they've shown their real personality, it is Aizen.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:13
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It's obviously unclear and rushed, but the idea I got from Ywach's death speech wasn't that he was going to make everybody happy, but that the current state of death and fear was undesirable and that even not existing would be preferable for all beings. It's unusual because his motivations appeared to change out of nowhere and for 90% of the last four years he was just getting revenge for the Quincy extermination so suddenly becoming double god and waxing poetic about his plans for all creation got weird but that's Kubo for you. His problem was building up Aizen for most of the entire manga and then having an arc with a new villain be the final one, so he felt the guy needed to be sufficiently omnipotent to pose a real threat, which gives us The Almighty.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:38
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I was 100% convinced the plot was going to get hijacked by Aizen at the last second but there you go.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:51
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I like that we're so acclimated to Bleach that a ghost autopsy isn't even blinked at. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KSSo2QK6o4
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Aug 25, 2016 00:15
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I kinda liked and kinda miss Tessai. Like you see him and think "why is he there" Then we find out he's pretty much the most powerful Kido user in the loving world.
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Aug 25, 2016 00:30
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Scyantific posted:Then we find out he's pretty much the most powerful Kido user in the loving world. Which is like being the fastest unicyclist.
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Aug 25, 2016 00:34
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Alright, you guys finally convinced me, I'm going to read all of Bleach.
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Aug 25, 2016 01:55
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Please join me for my Let's Read thread where we read a Chapter a day and discuss it.
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Aug 25, 2016 01:56
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Nooooooooooooooooooooo
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Aug 25, 2016 01:58
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DolphinCop posted:i hope the next wsj release has twenty pages of "This Space Intentionally Left Blank" I see Kubo's drawing backgrounds again.
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Aug 25, 2016 02:09
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Please join me for my Let's Read thread where we read a Chapter a day and discuss it. I'm up for it.
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Aug 25, 2016 02:10
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ah, the two year long simulread
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Aug 25, 2016 02:12
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lezard_valeth posted:Aizen's illusions were never consistent throughout Bleach. Not an afterimage clone. It was Gin. You can see Aizen's captain's cloak changing into Gin's version. And then a few pages later you see Gin standing where Aizen was.  
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Aug 25, 2016 02:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSFz1g7RpI Well, thank you anime, you made me look silly on the internet Though this only reinforces that he was blowing smoke up his rear end when he said he could make a fly look like a dragon.
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Aug 25, 2016 02:23
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Tomorrow is Thursday and I don't have anything to hate-read. WE'VE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE
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Aug 25, 2016 02:24
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lezard_valeth posted:Tomorrow is Thursday and I don't have anything to hate-read. Just read the final chapter again lmao
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Aug 25, 2016 02:28
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Sydin posted:I was 100% convinced the plot was going to get hijacked by Aizen at the last second but there you go. Same. It looks like there's an awful lot of plot (and Ichigo transformations!) that ended up on the cutting room floor.
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Aug 25, 2016 02:28
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Voted Worst Mom posted:Just read the final chapter again lmao I really didn't care much about waifu canonicity. My favorite kind of hate-read was my favourite captain that was hyped for 10 years failing to deliver against a chicken god
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Aug 25, 2016 02:33
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Start reading Reborn it is somehow overall worse than Bleach
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Aug 25, 2016 03:27
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slev posted:Start reading Reborn it is somehow overall worse than Bleach Read The Night Land. Sure, it's a 104 year old book, not a manga, but it does start off as a post apocalyptic exploration and then take a sudden turn into the propriety of beating the poo poo out of your wife!
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Aug 25, 2016 03:32
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perhaps you could read something good, my friends in the bleach post-mortem thread. I have many manga I could recommend
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Aug 25, 2016 03:33
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Knew it, Warner is doing it.
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Aug 25, 2016 03:59
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Cake Attack posted:perhaps you could read something good, my friends in the bleach post-mortem thread. I have many manga I could recommend How many of them are Mob Psycho 100?
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Aug 25, 2016 04:40
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Helck Red Storm Mob Pyscho 100 One Punch Man My Hero Academia Beelzebub read 1 of those
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Aug 25, 2016 04:46
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Kild posted:Helck Where's Black Clover.
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Aug 25, 2016 05:41
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Shugojin posted:Read The Night Land. Sure, it's a 104 year old book, not a manga, but it does start off as a post apocalyptic exploration and then take a sudden turn into the propriety of beating the poo poo out of your wife! The Stoddard version is a lot easier to get through.
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Aug 25, 2016 05:55
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Where's Black Clover. black clover is ok but I wouldn't tell anyone "hey, you should definitely read this"
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Aug 25, 2016 06:05
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have you considered, reading something that isn't shonen
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Aug 25, 2016 06:06
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have you considered reading web novels which are incredibly bad on their own merits even before you consider their incredibly bad translations?
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Aug 25, 2016 06:08
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Cake Attack posted:have you considered, reading something that isn't shonen I'm a
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Aug 25, 2016 06:10
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Cake Attack posted:have you considered, reading something that isn't shonen I tried Ulysses once. So, yeah. Sticking with shonen.
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Aug 25, 2016 06:13
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ha ha, it isn't like there is nothing between "comic for children" and "barely comprehensible dead english dialect"
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