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DrowningInDreams posted:Well, magick is tapping directly into the universe/God/Pan/Baphomet/etc. Also something something perception can influence reality. I honestly think mathematical systems can be thought of in magical terms. IE, everyone believes that certain cards are the best, so they are. Really, magick is just a bunch of sophistry of reversing cause and effect, only taken seriously. It's more about the experience than anything else; about deliberately making yourself feel as if certain things are true. Like a kind of induced insanity. And then, per magick theory, belief becomes reality. But whatever. I'm honestly not a true believer, I just try to be sometimes because I thought it would bring me close to my daemon. I just still don't get how willing a card to appear next makes that card appear next. It can't be handwaved away as inexplicable magic because if you can't explain the mechanisms of something there's no logical connection that can be made that says it exists, the mechanisms in place are more likely to belong to another phenomenon (the way the cards were shuffled) - because we know irrefutably that the mechanisms can belong to that. In this case you're only seeing a corollary relationship with the force, magic, that you're attributing them to. No, if magic is real there has to be some process it uses to move the card you're willing to appear in to the position it needs to be in to appear next. Maybe this is manipulation of time, you're manipulating the past to change how the cards were shuffled so that your card appears next. I find this hard to believe just because that's a whole lot of information for the wizard to track as he shoves his mind in to the past - he'd have to somehow know where to place the card in the initial pile so that when shuffling is complete, it ends up in the desired position. I understand that wizards can live hundreds of years, but it would take even longer to master a skill such as this. The wizard would also have to be able to physically manipulate that card in the past in order to place it in its desired position, and he would need to do so in a way that no one saw him, because they would remember him touching the cards and kick him out. For these reasons we can rule out the possibility of temporal manipulation in this sigil spell. The next option is that, maybe the card translocates and switches places with another card. This is believable except, the wizard would have to choose which card it swaps with. The instructions for spells like this don't provide any kind of instructions or even mention of this being a necessary step and if you don't have a specific other card in mind as you cast the spell, the card could end up anywhere and maybe you swap it with a baloney sandwich, which is now in the deck. That doesn't really work. This opens up the possibility of a butterfly effect as well, as the other card in the swap might be the card that ends his reign. I could see a wizard easily spiraling in to madness being stuck in an infinite loop trying to repair this, so I don't think this is how the spell works either. A third option is that you either create a duplicate of the intended card, or cause everyone nearby to hallucinate that the next card is instead the card you need it to be. This is all fine and dandy except eventually over hundreds of games the original copy of the intended card would also be played, showing the dealers that cheating has taken place. There would be a documented case of wizard cheating as a casino if this was true, so we can rule this one out too. I don't have any ideas other than those so if these spells were real someone needs to be doing some research on them to find out how they work. I'm stumped.
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Shakill OReal posted:I just still don't get how willing a card to appear next makes that card appear next. It can't be handwaved away as inexplicable magic because if you can't explain the mechanisms of something there's no logical connection that can be made that says it exists, the mechanisms in place are more likely to belong to another phenomenon (the way the cards were shuffled) - because we know irrefutably that the mechanisms can belong to that. In this case you're only seeing a corollary relationship with the force, magic, that you're attributing them to. Alright but if you take something like tarot cards, well the reader never claims to randomize the cards despite scattering them, and if they know their deck there is muscle memory and subconscious memorization of where the cards are. So when they shuffle the deck together they are exerting influence based on their impression of the person they are doing the reading on. Maybe not stacking the deck or imposing a conscious narrative, but their sub linguistic mind is interpreting emotional content of the situation and attaching that to an emotional object, the most immediate and tactile and familiar (which is their cards through practice) and giving a pure and unprejudiced emotional reading straight from the subconscious. It's like putting blinders on to the immediate senses and forcing a waking dream interpretation. Which is usually p spot on because we are all psychic beings on some level. And I mean you can try to force or assemble a narrative with the cards but it won't make any sense if you do.
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DrowningInDreams posted:I own a Sig P238 and an NAA .22 WMR. After I went crazy I stopped carrying for a while, then started carrying only in my backpack, so that I couldn't made a bad split decision since I have a sub two second draw. I've been target shooting maybe 11 times now. It's very expensive so I can't do it often. I am very fond of my guns and have modified the Sig quite heavily, with a laser light combo and an aluminum trigger. It is the rainbow finish model. Buying the gun was hard because I ordered it online and then did an FFL transfer to the closest store, but the store tried to cheat me by not sending their forms, but the place I bought it from had them already so it showed up anyway and they had no choice but to sell it to me after I passed the background check. Gun owners are pretty chill surprisingly, when they know you're not out to take away their gun rights, despite being a filthy minority. I get misgendered less often at a gun show than at a gay pride festival. vwell glad to see you passed the background check since you haven't been technically adjudicated mentally defective and are only self-admittedly mentally defective
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jarofpiss posted:vwell glad to see you passed the background check since you haven't been technically adjudicated mentally defective and are only self-admittedly mentally defective Thanks Also sorry I can't get into a better discussion of magick theory. My focus has always been only one thing, and I have only vague memories of the other things I read about in order to get at the bits of information I cared about.
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Goddammit, why did I bother to read any of this loving crap?!?
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Machine Cult posted:Goddammit, why did I bother to read any of this loving crap?!? So you could complain about it afterward probably.
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Do you think there is a law of the universe more fundamental/basic/pure than mathematics?
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EorayMel posted:Do you think there is a law of the universe more fundamental/basic/pure than mathematics? Well I mean, mathematics is a language or a lens more than it is a law imho. Are you asking if I think there's a principle of the universe that's indescribable by math? Only in a psychological sense, perhaps, or a spiritual one. "The will of God"
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Machine Cult posted:Goddammit, why did I bother to read any of this loving crap?!? Thanks for reading my posts about wizards time traveling in casinos, keep an eye out for my Most Popular writing prompt on Reddit next week.
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As an aside, has anyone read Infinite Jest? Remember the entertainment called "The Joke" that was just a completely blank film?
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Nirvikalpa posted:A mentally ill troon? What a surprise
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You made it to 7 pages, OP. Congratulations, I have been successfully summoned to your self-containment thread.DrowningInDreams posted:Focus on being the best you that you can be. Then if anything bad happens to you, Your dragonhood is how you perpetuate and vindicate this perception you have of yourself as some kind of *monster* in the eyes of society. It's bad. Don't be bad, dragon. Even if you are this dragon inside that no one else sees, a dragons' superiority only really comes from being the better, more reasonable dragon. You use can use your dragon-strength to either save the peasant-folk and win their loving trust, or you can murder them with claws and fricassee their children and get a bunch of knights errant sent to your cave in the middle of the night. Your call!  (I haven't read or looked at your dream story / yet) Shakill OReal posted:Thanks for reading my posts about wizards time traveling in casinos, keep an eye out for my Most Popular writing prompt on Reddit next week. You're thinking in good directions though, but what option you're forgetting in your card example is: You're remembering this outcome right before you experience it subjectively for the first time, since that card's always been there in that draw but you've actually "been there" before.
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That's good advice. Only I feel it's sometimes productive somehow to be able to repudiate yourself to your core, to look on yourself as irredeemable, because tremendous energy can be drawn from this. My latest thought has been that dragons hoard gold they can't use, and that gold is symbolic of wisdom, and that a proper monster has no use for wisdom because it is cut off from God. Yet wisdom still remains a better thing to pursue than evil. It's just that wisdom loses its true character under these circumstances, and becomes mere sanctimony. So I have thought lately that I will live for sanctimony, as a kind of going-through-the-motions for a creature "set outside the universal". But then of course I can wake up any other day and think of myself in a different way. Only, there is always some different way of viewing things that is useful at a different time, like perspectives are a toolkit rather than an absolute. This is all incompletely thought out, and I am an idiot but whatever. Anyway, thanks for offering to read my dream story, and thanks for the advice.
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I'm pretty drunk and the Metallica concert owned !!!!!!!
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jackyl posted:I'm pretty drunk and the Metallica concert owned !!!!!!! What songs did they play? Did they play "Nothing Else Matters" or "One"? I love those songs.
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DrowningInDreams posted:That's good advice. Only I feel it's sometimes productive somehow to be able to repudiate yourself to your core, to look on yourself as irredeemable, because tremendous energy can be drawn from this. My latest thought has been that dragons hoard gold they can't use, and that gold is symbolic of wisdom, and that a proper monster has no use for wisdom because it is cut off from God. Yet wisdom still remains a better thing to pursue than evil. It's just that wisdom loses its true character under these circumstances, and becomes mere sanctimony. So I have thought lately that I will live for sanctimony, as a kind of going-through-the-motions for a creature "set outside the universal". Thank you for ceasing your abuse of commas, at least for this post.
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Has anyone seen DGSW recently? He posted a lot about offing himself and it would be a real blow to the forums morale if he went through with it. Stay safe dgsw
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various cheeses posted:Has anyone seen DGSW recently? He posted a lot about offing himself and it would be a real blow to the forums morale if he went through with it. Even though rehab is a scam, that dude needs loving rehab.
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DrowningInDreams posted:What songs did they play? Did they play "Nothing Else Matters" or "One"? I love those songs. yes to both but the started with creeping death and there was sanitarium, fade to black, whiskey in a jar, battery and leper messiah among others if u check the Metallica owns thread u will see all the songs
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Even though rehab is a scam, that dude needs loving rehab. nah I don't think he does
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p sure he's not as hosed up as he posts
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jackyl posted:nah I don't think he does Maybe he just posts every time he gets hosed up and isn't actually hosed up all the time. I'd like to think that.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Maybe he just posts every time he gets hosed up and isn't actually hosed up all the time. I'd like to think that. I can respect that optimism.
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sorry i couldn't think of any questions today dragons in dreams have a good sleep talk to you tomorrow
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Celluloid Sam posted:sorry i couldn't think of any questions today dragons in dreams have a good sleep talk to you tomorrow No worries. Sleep well.
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Yo jackyl grats on your tournament win. Way to make those fuckmen suck your dick at golf
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I'm definitely not going to read another four pages of this to find out what happened but I hope in my heart of hearts that jackyl had a good game of golf E: oh poo poo the post above mine says he did good so hell's bells dude, I'm happy for you
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an 'ama' thread where the op isn't interesting and refuses to answer almost all questions lovely thread
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At least we got the breaking news that jackyl cloaked a bunch of dorks on the golf course. You heard it here first in this garbage thread. I appreciate his attempt to turn it around.
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DrowningInDreams posted:everyone believes that certain cards are the best, so they are. Really, magick is just a bunch of sophistry of reversing cause and effect, only taken seriously. It's more about the experience than anything else; about deliberately making yourself feel as if certain things are true. Like a kind of induced insanity. And then, per magick theory, belief becomes reality. so ur saying that when I sit down at the $10/$20 table at the NLHE table in Biloxi or Vegas or wherever that the only reason I win is because dark magicks have permeated throughout the world that makes the highest ranked card be the Ace? Since everyone had adopted this as the standard rules of the game that it's become magic? Holy poo poo I gotta remember this the next time a dealer tosses me nine deuce off under the gun.
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I don't give a gently caress so long as those ghosts consider the ace the top rank in standard poker games
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I'm on chapter three where the nameless chosen dragon girl arrives in the distant city of (ruined) Toronto.
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Hahaha what a load of insane poo poo Magick
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Bitch Aces started from the bottom NOW THEY HERE
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Is there a method by which a disinterested third party can tell a real otherkin from a poser?
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