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Vim Fuego posted:How many times did someone "push their food away without finishing it" or "toss the bowl in the recycler with half the eggs left" or "notice with a grimace that the noodles had gone cold and hard" - like twice a loving chapter? Come on space people. There are starving kids on earth that would kill for that stuff. Smdh I wondered this all through the last book. Ungrateful degenerates
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I just assumed that waste recyclers were really efficient. If you can throw leftovers in a chute and get back 99% of the nutrients, it’s not a big deal.
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Platystemon posted:I just assumed that waste recyclers were really efficient. It is every citizen's final duty to toss their half-finished red kibble into the recycler with a grimace and become one with all the people
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Second best book in the series and the Dawes chapter is the best chapter in the series
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wyoak posted:Second best book in the series and the Dawes chapter is the best chapter in the series Are you talking about Babalon's Ashes? I rank it tied with Abaddon's Gate for the worse of the series.
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Am I the only one here that loving hated Cibola Burn? God, the characters were annoying. Nemesis Games and Leviathan Wakes are still my favorite, this one feels average (and average in this series is very good).
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shirts and skins posted:Am I the only one here that loving hated Cibola Burn? God, the characters were annoying. Nemesis Games and Leviathan Wakes are still my favorite, this one feels average (and average in this series is very good). I liked Cibola Burn but wish they had spent more time on the inner workings of the loving planet-sized alien machine, and less time on the cast of dumb boring characters. How many times do we need to hear about how sociopathic the sociopathic head of security is? That was the book that kind of really made me check out on the "human drama" that was going on. Babylon's Ashes had similar issues.
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shirts and skins posted:Am I the only one here that loving hated Cibola Burn? God, the characters were annoying. Nemesis Games and Leviathan Wakes are still my favorite, this one feels average (and average in this series is very good). I mean, I liked it, but I feel that's a minority opinion. I thought the premise was really cool with the brutal clusterfuck of scientists/colonists/refugees/terrorists/corporate security all being frustratingly human on an incredible alien world, and so I probably forgave some of its weaknesses like that scientist lady lusting after Holden for the first half of the book.
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From the show thread:bitprophet posted:Heck, don't even need to hold LEO, just threaten to apply some of their stealth tech to some belt asteroids and fling 'em Earthward. I didn’t want to draw attention to it there, but who thinks it’s a coincidence and who thinks it’s stealth spoilers? Rock dropping isn’t exactly an unknown in science fiction, but the stealth tech (and in particular the magic paint) doesn’t get much play till the later books. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Feb 6, 2017 04:06
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Platystemon posted:From the show thread: In the show, if not the earlier books (I really need to reread LW now the show's back on...forgetting a lot of it) a big to-do is made of how Mars is supposedly the only nation with stealth tech. In the context of a discussion about orbital bombardment in an Earth-Mars war it seemed like a reasonable thing to put out there. I've read all the books, so it was intended as a tip of the hat to other book readers, but one that wouldn't immediately appear to show watchers as a spoiler. I don't see why any "likes to speculate about scifi warfare" person wouldn't pretty easily arrive at the same idea (again given the surrounding convo) even w/o book knowledge. bitprophet fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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People who have read the books don't need pretend-I'm-speculating winks in the show thread. If you're so sure the way the books go is the logical conclusion, then let the show-only crowd work it out for themselves. "Gosh, just spitballing here, but I hope Joffrey doesn't ignore his advisors and order someone beheaded. What?"
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Maybe Duarte got blasted by a supernova, and they're afraid of a ghost  ?
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I've read the first two novels and novella, was considering starting the third but I'm curious, do we know if there is a planned ending for this, or are we just in open universe (ala Star Wars EU) now?
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^burtle posted:I've read the first two novels and novella, was considering starting the third but I'm curious, do we know if there is a planned ending for this, or are we just in open universe (ala Star Wars EU) now?
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^burtle posted:I've read the first two novels and novella, was considering starting the third but I'm curious, do we know if there is a planned ending for this, or are we just in open universe (ala Star Wars EU) now? The authors said they have known the ending for years. There will be 9 books total (6 as of now) and the last three are going to the same story arch, kinda an episode 1-2-3 type thing. Here is the AMA https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5qb7py/hi_i_am_james_sa_corey_author_of_the_expanse_and/
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Thanks guys! Not going to click to avoid spoilers but I'll wait a bit longer before diving back in.
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I haven't put a lot of thought into it and I honestly assume/hope a living alien will never show up in the series, but the Epstein guy's funeral chariot finally crashing out near an alien civilization and freaking them the gently caress out would be a cool short story.
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Reading Cibola Burn now and I can't stand Havelock. He's so utterly unbelievably incompetent and servile. Why the gently caress would anyone bother keeping an engineer in prison, especially one of Naomi's renown, when they are days away from crashing into a planet. Od think it was deliberate if the writers didn't also want to have long passages where he cries and relates to Naomi about how they hosed everyone is.
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Actress Cara Gee is playing Drummer in the TV series. Refresh me who the hell is Drummer? I can't remember a thing about the character. What books are they mentioned? What action of note did he/she carry out?
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gohmak posted:Actress Cara Gee is playing Drummer in the TV series. Refresh me who the hell is Drummer? I can't remember a thing about the character. What books are they mentioned? What action of note did he/she carry out? Tycho's chief of security. Introduced in Nemesis Games, I think. She helps beat back the attempted coup on Tycho, and Fred leaves her in charge when he goes off with Holden. We don't spend a ton of time with her.
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PriorMarcus posted:Reading Cibola Burn now and I can't stand Havelock. He's so utterly unbelievably incompetent and servile. Why the gently caress would anyone bother keeping an engineer in prison, especially one of Naomi's renown, when they are days away from crashing into a planet. Od think it was deliberate if the writers didn't also want to have long passages where he cries and relates to Naomi about how they hosed everyone is. He took a step back from when we knew him with Miller, since back then he was trying to assert himself and not just play second-fiddle/gofer. Pharmaskittle posted:I haven't put a lot of thought into it and I honestly assume/hope a living alien will never show up in the series, but the Epstein guy's funeral chariot finally crashing out near an alien civilization and freaking them the gently caress out would be a cool short story. I'm pretty sure the authors have said there won't be any living aliens seen in the series.
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Aren't there things that appear to the crews of the vanished ships in their last moments? I guess that depends on whether they qualify as "living" (or "aliens", if they're some sort of artificial construct).
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Lord Hydronium posted:Aren't there things that appear to the crews of the vanished ships in their last moments? I guess that depends on whether they qualify as "living" (or "aliens", if they're some sort of artificial construct). Also consider that the crewmen may be tripping balls at that point.
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I finished the book a few days ago and it felt like a burden had been lifted from my shoulders. Christ Marco was an awful antagonist, and this series has had some pretty flimsy, badly written antagonists. I hope the last few books improve and we can get back to the big mystery and Marco stays dead dead dead, never to return or even be mentioned again.
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Everybody else who disappeared comes back but whatever alien intelligence is behind it kills Marco after 5 minutes of having to listen to him.
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Everybody else who disappeared comes back but whatever alien intelligence is behind it kills Marco after 5 minutes of having to listen to him. Three minutes, max.
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Calling it: In the next book, Naomi gets haunted by ghost Marco a la Holden's ghost Miller from the previous books.
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Toast Museum posted:People who have read the books don't need pretend-I'm-speculating winks in the show thread. If you're so sure the way the books go is the logical conclusion, then let the show-only crowd work it out for themselves. I saw the post in question before getting to that part of the books and it removed pretty much all surprise and suspense for me. As soon as belters stole stealth paint I knew that wasn't actually speculation and it kinda pissed me off. I'm ok with spoilers, but not when they are packaged as something else.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Calling it: In the next book, Naomi gets haunted by ghost Marco a la Holden's ghost Miller from the previous books. That seems unlikely since the ghost Miller was a tool of the protomolecule road builder/, and whatever is eating ships in the gates is likely related to whatever killed the road-builder's civilization.
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KPC_Mammon posted:I saw the post in question before getting to that part of the books and it removed pretty much all surprise and suspense for me. As soon as belters stole stealth paint I knew that wasn't actually speculation and it kinda pissed me off. Stuff like this was really bad in the Game of Thrones threads and it's even sadder than it is annoying, talk about self owns Sarern posted:That seems unlikely since the ghost Miller was a tool of the protomolecule road builder/, and whatever is eating ships in the gates is likely related to whatever killed the road-builder's civilization. I'm all on board the "own technology out of control" ala Prometheus and that other sci fi novel series where the terra-forming machines end up destroying human civilization, causing humans to flee the Milky Way
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Non spoiler question. I'm just starting leviathan wakes and enjoying it but I'm curious about something. Belters are humans born in microgravity and are culturally distinct enough in that regard to differentiate themselves from inner planet terrestrial types. What about outer planet inhabitants living on the gas giant moons, though? Are they still considered Belters?
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To the inners, yeah, basically. Though beyond Saturn there aren't a lot of dense colonies, from what I remember.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Non spoiler question. I'm just starting leviathan wakes and enjoying it but I'm curious about something. Belters are humans born in microgravity and are culturally distinct enough in that regard to differentiate themselves from inner planet terrestrial types. What about outer planet inhabitants living on the gas giant moons, though? Are they still considered Belters? I don't know that they'd call themselves Belters, but I'm not sure what else to call them, either. It probably varies from moon to moon. Ganymede, for instance, is an inner-planet joint venture, is pretty well-off, and doesn't have much in common culturally with somewhere like Ceres. I don't think they think of themselves as Earthers or Martians either, though.
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The Muffinlord posted:To the inners, yeah, basically. Though beyond Saturn there aren't a lot of dense colonies, from what I remember.
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I would imagine the Saturnian moons that are of scientific or mineral usefulness would have outposts, but shipping from that far would probably limit them to specifically exporting elements and compounds that wouldn't appear or be harder to retrieve further down the well.
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Saturn is where all their water comes from, makes sense that there would be a lot of infrastructure out there along with it.
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Don't they consider themselves belters? Did the term come up during Prax's section in the latest book with the Free Navy occupation? I can't remember now. In any case they're definitely outers, as opposed to inners, and call under the "natural" purview of the OPA. Though thinking about it now the gas giant moons aren't super well developed locations in the books, though you'd imagine they'd be at least as developed as the Belt, and we get hints that they are. I hope the show ends up giving a neat picture of Ganymede like it did for Ceres last season.
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Isn't Ganymede where all belters gestate and are born?
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gohmak posted:Isn't Ganymede where all belters gestate and are born? Only if they’re fortunate.
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