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a kitten posted:I'm only a quarter in, maybe it'll change but drat. Teaser spoiler: wait till you get to the death slugs
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TsarZiedonis posted:I know, I was really disappointed too. I guess they release when it's midnight in California? More like Washington, but same thing.
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Dec 6, 2016 07:42
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Amos > Bull
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Dec 6, 2016 07:56
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I hope Marco doesn’t come back. Murty was a better antagonist. But I expect he will return in some form. That’s generally how mysterious disappearances work in fiction. Also, what was with all the foreshadowing about the Protomolecule‐inspired Unobtanium composite? Red herring, or will there be something wrong with it, specifically? Platystemon fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Mars4523 posted:Problem is that it'll always be easier to mine in a microgravity environment, especially with an already extant labor source and infrastructure, than to mine at the bottom of a gravity well and then expend the energy necessary to send those materials into orbit. There’s no need to move raw materials between worlds. For the foreseeable future, belters are needed for moving high technology and complex organics to primitive worlds as well as constructing spacefaring vessels.
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As I see it, there are two essentially magic technologies at the beginning: the Epstein drive and the “juice” that keeps acceleration from killing a person.
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I’m surprised Amos’ gangster buddies weren’t mentioned. I wonder what they’re up to.
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The overload gimmick is dumb. For one thing, why are the gates so gorram big if one overclocked ice freighter represents enough mass/energy to redline them? Did the Forerunners pilot ships made of styrofoam and propelled by wet farts?
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I considered the possibility that it was a remnant of the security system that enforced a speed limit in the slow zone. Who knows if the speed limit would have applied to the alien propulsion method Eros used? If you have magical bullshit drives and your enemy doesn’t, it would make sense for your ring gates to reject HIGH ENERGY objects. But if that’s the case, why didn’t The Investigator disable it, and why is the overloading object itself is not re‐routed to the ~alien dimension~? I can’t imagine why you’d want the fate of an incoming ship to depend on how much energy other ships transiting other gates were using.
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Seriously, Marco is at least four hundred Hitlers, and that’s if we attribute all deaths in the European theatre to Hitler (combat, Holocaust, famine, &c.).
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wellwhoopdedooo posted:How is the fact that we dropped a nuke on Japan, then we dropped a bigger one on them, and we didn't even really need to, the war was essentially over at that point, we just wouldn't accept anything other than unconditional surrender and they didn't want to give that, not the obvious comparison?
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a kitten posted:The question i have now is: do i just plow right into Babylon's Ashes, or should i hold out and read something else for a bit? Babylon’s Ashes is like Nemesis Games Part Deux, so just plough into it.
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Dec 15, 2016 05:29
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Killing every belter would still only be like one half of one percent as bad as what Marco did.page 2 of Leviathan Wakes posted:If you asked OPA recruiters when they were drunk and feeling expansive, they might say there were a hundred million in the Belt.
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Der Luftwaffle posted:Trying to think back to previous books, but are space elevators mentioned anywhere? Seems like a natural thing within the setting and has to be more efficient that shuttling people up and down wells on ships. IIRC they have mass drivers to deliver cargo, but I’m pretty sure there are no space elevators.
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Dec 19, 2016 03:17
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I can only assume that no one has posed a serious threat to Avasarala’s power because everyone is too busy just surviving.
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ZombieLenin posted:Vanishing Marco to save the day seemed a little deus ex machina, and there was finality to the ending I didn't expect at all. Marco was a boring character who never should have lived past Nemesis Games. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he returns somehow. Magical disappearances do tend to leave that as a possibility.
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Holden would have spared Hitler for Eva Braun’s sake.
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gohmak posted:He would tell a jew about to be sent into the oven that not all Germans are bad. Platystemon posted:Killing every belter would still only be like one half of one percent as bad as what Marco did. In proportional terms, it would be like bombing Bielefeld (a city small enough that there’s a popular joke that it does not exist) to kill Hitler and prevent the War. I’m not saying it’s the Right Thing to Do, but it would have wild popular support and I can’t blame them. Not in a universe where Michio “butcher of New York” Pa is a Good Guy™ and Chrisjen “turn the other cheek” Avasarala is “Machiavellian”. Letting Pa lead the spacing guild is like letting Göring lead the Marshall Plan. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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The compromise to “give amnesty and high office to space Göring” and “kill all Belters” is “heavily restrict spaceflight in the Sol system”. It effectively exiles Belters or at least puts them under house arrest (on stations or moons that are mostly self‐sufficient), but that is 100% justified given the loss of life that would result from a single additional meteor strike.
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There are aliens behind the Laconia gate.
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Mars = space Japan
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The Expanse:sci-fi geography::A Song of Ice and Fire:fantasy geography
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It’s implausible that Mars has lost so much population so fast, but terraforming is a really slow process and it’s absolutely doomed to fail as long as the gates exist.
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Belters don’t actually engage in many fleet actions, though.  Maybe they would get smashed in a fair fight, but that’s okay because they avoid fair fights.
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ZombieLenin posted:It's not them "winning," but the belters putting up any sort of serious coordinated fleet operation. For example, trying to chase down the escorted Martian prime minister. Weren’t the ships crewed by rebel MCRN sailors at that point?
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Na'at posted:I really don't think that going full on revenge assault is in any way realistic for Earth. This wasn't a 9/11 Marco did to Earth it was a full on 1940's German Style Holocaust attempt. Earth got hosed so hard that right now rebuilding and hanging on is all they can do. Y'all are acting like the fist thing the state of Israel should have done after it's formation was an immediate assault on the Germans who attempted genocide. These guys gave it their best shot. Earth and Mars could wreck the Belt if they wanted to. Yes, they got hurt, but it’s far easier to destroy than to create. Belters could not stop them from slagging every station. The only thing preventing that is politics. Even an embargo would kill the Belt pretty quickly. Life in space if fragile.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I thought it was kind of a cruel tease, because the previous book ended with that, but then they just kind of forget to mention it again entirely until the end of this one where it's suddenly like "oh right, we can use that thing from the last book as a deus ex machina to defeat the enemy fleet." And then it just comes out and pretty much literally says "we still don't know what it is, but we figured out how to trigger it, good enough I guess". Nah, that’s pretty much it.
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HERAK posted:My hope is that there is still more go it and there will be some revelation down the line relating to the gates and their functions. It just seems to detailed and important to just be a deus ex machina. I expect we will eventually learn more about the gave vanishing mechanics, but for the past two books it’s just been a huge tease. Marco had better not come back, but I’m not ruling it out.
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I just assumed that waste recyclers were really efficient. If you can throw leftovers in a chute and get back 99% of the nutrients, it’s not a big deal.
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From the show thread:bitprophet posted:Heck, don't even need to hold LEO, just threaten to apply some of their stealth tech to some belt asteroids and fling 'em Earthward. I didn’t want to draw attention to it there, but who thinks it’s a coincidence and who thinks it’s stealth spoilers? Rock dropping isn’t exactly an unknown in science fiction, but the stealth tech (and in particular the magic paint) doesn’t get much play till the later books. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Lord Hydronium posted:Aren't there things that appear to the crews of the vanished ships in their last moments? I guess that depends on whether they qualify as "living" (or "aliens", if they're some sort of artificial construct). Also consider that the crewmen may be tripping balls at that point.
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gohmak posted:Isn't Ganymede where all belters gestate and are born? Only if they’re fortunate.
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A large proportion of Belters can adapt to living in Earth‐like gravity permanently (i.e. Ilus), with the right regimen. As for why Belters don’t suck more at space combat: Platystemon posted:Maybe they would get smashed in a fair fight, but that’s okay because they avoid fair fights.
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I don’t like the show’s “Naomi lies to the crew and doesn’t destroy the Protomolecule sample” twist. She can’t do anything interesting with it unless there are major changes to the story (unlikely).
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Mar 3, 2017 02:20
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Melba Alzbeta Ko is the ugly caterpillar. Peaches is cool. 
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What will happen with Havelock in the show? Will he be brought into the Abaddon’s Gate plot or even Caliban’s War?
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ITT: no speculation allowed
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ITT: Jokes?
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Marco needs a Mike Pence.
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