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blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

I'm currently doing Burke's car poo poo and SEVERAL TIMES as I start towards one of the police impounds I'll just get a message that the car was randomly destroyed and I need to go find another.

I know exactly what's happening, I've witnessed it. The same double-spawning behavior that causes underbosses to show up twice often happens in police lots. I was in one once and allofasudden a police car spawned in one that was already there, shooting them both up fifty feet into the air and exploding.

e: And of course the loving crashes are back. gently caress this lovely terrible game.

Cut your losses. Although I do know the feeling where you have put so much work into something and you want to stop, but you just want to see it through so you can put it behind you.

My suggestion? Just rush through the story and ignore the side missions.

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Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
There is no legal reason to not include the KKK in this game. People write/film/etc poo poo that includes the klan all the time and the most that ever happened was a splinter klan group writing an angry letter to Mad Magazine back in, like, the 70s (Mad told them to gently caress off). I think some got upset at Oh Brother Where Art Thou but again they weren't dumb enough to file a lawsuit they would absolutely lose. Like so much else wrong with this game the answer boils down more to 'the publishers are dumb.'

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

There is no legal reason to not include the KKK in this game. People write/film/etc poo poo that includes the klan all the time and the most that ever happened was a splinter klan group writing an angry letter to Mad Magazine back in, like, the 70s (Mad told them to gently caress off). I think some got upset at Oh Brother Where Art Thou but again they weren't dumb enough to file a lawsuit they would absolutely lose. Like so much else wrong with this game the answer boils down more to 'the publishers are dumb.'

Nah.

GET MY BELT SON
Sep 26, 2007

so a week or so ago my molotov icon just disappeared and it wouldn't let me throw them anymore

i fire it up today and now my grenade icon is also gone

so no i can't throw either anymore

what the loving gently caress

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

There is no legal reason to not include the KKK in this game. People write/film/etc poo poo that includes the klan all the time and the most that ever happened was a splinter klan group writing an angry letter to Mad Magazine back in, like, the 70s (Mad told them to gently caress off). I think some got upset at Oh Brother Where Art Thou but again they weren't dumb enough to file a lawsuit they would absolutely lose. Like so much else wrong with this game the answer boils down more to 'the publishers are dumb.'

from what it sounds like the klan is a thing but the Southern Union(orignal character/organaztion, do not steal) is another separate group. but yeah it should have just been the klan.


Sir DonkeyPunch posted:

Speaking of the Southern Union, feels weird that the "Rescue Human Trafficking Victims" quests are optional. Like, I don't want to tell hangar 13 how to design the game, but...

Edit: I also killed every motherfucker in the audience of the auction regardless of whether they were civilian

yeah, its not like they are "optional" its more that it depends what you run into first. like you get all the informants, all the missions are "seeable" on the map. but you can find them just by loving about.

void_serfer
Jan 13, 2012

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

There is no legal reason to not include the KKK in this game. People write/film/etc poo poo that includes the klan all the time and the most that ever happened was a splinter klan group writing an angry letter to Mad Magazine back in, like, the 70s (Mad told them to gently caress off). I think some got upset at Oh Brother Where Art Thou but again they weren't dumb enough to file a lawsuit they would absolutely lose. Like so much else wrong with this game the answer boils down more to 'the publishers are dumb.'

Not nearly as dumb as this post.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Finished the game. That mid-credits scene was pretty good. What I actually enjoyed the most was that during the drive out to the casino the radio plays moody modern covers of songs from the game's soundtrack. It's a nice little touch that's actually pretty subtle too.



Now I'm uninstalling this game and likely never touching it again. Thank you thread!

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!

blackguy32 posted:

My suggestion? Just rush through the story and ignore the side missions.

This is absolutely the only correct way to play Mafia 3.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

Finished the game. That mid-credits scene was pretty good. What I actually enjoyed the most was that during the drive out to the casino the radio plays moody modern covers of songs from the game's soundtrack. It's a nice little touch that's actually pretty subtle too.



Now I'm uninstalling this game and likely never touching it again. Thank you thread!

i honestly might "sit on it" and not beat and wait for the DLC to come out to see if any of that is decent.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


It's kind of weird that they spend so much cutscene time with the FBI guy and he never actually appears in the city at all. Like I was expecting a twist ending where he was Donovan (which was just a cover identity) and he wasn't really going after Lincoln.

GET MY BELT SON
Sep 26, 2007

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

What I actually enjoyed the most was that during the drive out to the casino the radio plays moody modern covers of songs from the game's soundtrack. It's a nice little touch that's actually pretty subtle too.


ok I'm glad you clarified this because I didn't know wtf was going on

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

spooky like this! posted:

It's kind of weird that they spend so much cutscene time with the FBI guy and he never actually appears in the city at all. Like I was expecting a twist ending where he was Donovan (which was just a cover identity) and he wasn't really going after Lincoln.
You learn in the cutscenes that the FBI had been stymied pretty early on because someone had nicked all of their gear :ninja: so they were pretty much behind the 8 ball the whole time during Lincoln's war of terror.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

ZombyDog posted:

You learn in the cutscenes that the FBI had been stymied pretty early on because someone had nicked all of their gear :ninja: so they were pretty much behind the 8 ball the whole time during Lincoln's war of terror.

At the beginning of the game doesn't Donovan mention to you that he borrowed most of the equipment from the 'feebs' (which I'm pretty sure is a derogatory nickname for the FBI) so that if something goes down they can't tie if back to the CIA?

Also, I'm 35 hours into my first play through and I'm still not done. I have all the missions in the Southdowns and Frisco Fields left to do but I have to make sure I'm not missing anything but god drat this can be a real slog.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Yes. Donovan stole it all from the local fbi guys. The case files too.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
e: I am an idiot, carry on.

thefncrow
Mar 14, 2001
So, on this game, I hear a lot of bitching about the PC version, but how bad is it really? Essentially, I'm going to buy this game, and I'm trying to figure out: is it "it's not that well optimized and has serious problems holding 60fps" bad or is it "The PC version crashes/has save bugs/has real problems that prevents you from outright playing the game. You'd be better off buying it for PS4" bad?

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

thefncrow posted:

So, on this game, I hear a lot of bitching about the PC version, but how bad is it really? Essentially, I'm going to buy this game, and I'm trying to figure out: is it "it's not that well optimized and has serious problems holding 60fps" bad or is it "The PC version crashes/has save bugs/has real problems that prevents you from outright playing the game. You'd be better off buying it for PS4" bad?

I get 10-15 frames with an i5, a 970 and 8gb of ram on low. It's loving terribly optimised.

I've barely played the game to even see the bugs because it runs like such poo poo.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz
10-15 frames with that get up? That doesn't sound like an optimisation problem - there has to be something else going on there.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
In addition to being poorly optimized (which I've not really noticed since I have fairly current hardware) the game also looks like poo poo on the highest setting in places for no reason. Even on the highest graphical setting it looks like this thing belongs to another era.



The chrome on most vehicles is really this textureless grey colour and the sky (when it's not clear) looks like some weird pixelated oil painting that's constantly shifting and everything has this 'aura' around it. It's like the tress and other things are sprites that don't have transparent background perfectly fitted. It's really strange in a modern game. It's hard to describe without seeing it in motion.

thefncrow
Mar 14, 2001

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

I get 10-15 frames with an i5, a 970 and 8gb of ram on low. It's loving terribly optimised.

I've barely played the game to even see the bugs because it runs like such poo poo.

Woof.

Alright, PS4 version it is, I guess.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

Psychotic Weasel posted:

The chrome on most vehicles is really this textureless grey colour and the sky (when it's not clear) looks like some weird pixelated oil painting that's constantly shifting and everything has this 'aura' around it. It's like the tress and other things are sprites that don't have transparent background perfectly fitted. It's really strange in a modern game. It's hard to describe without seeing it in motion.
You can eliminate most of that effect ( if you're running an Nvdia card, I have no idea about any AMD equivalent ) by turning down ingame AA and using DSR ( I'm using the 1.77 ratio for 2560x1440 on a 1920x1080 monitor). You shouldn't see any difference in framerate but that weird halo effect is a result of their AA.

ZombyDog fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Oct 24, 2016

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

ZombyDog posted:

You can eliminate most of that effect ( if you're running an Nvdia card, I have no idea about any AMD equivalent ) by turning down ingame AA and using DSR ( I'm using the 1.77 ratio for 2560x1440 on a 1920x1080 monitor). You shouldn't see any difference in framerate but that weird halo effect is a result of their AA.

I had tried playing around with all that - adjusting AA, removing depth of field, playing around with the shadows - but every time I restarted the game it would reset some of the setting and I just gave up after a while. It was mostly a tradeoff of what you didn't mind looking like poo poo. The worst was the game looking like a blurry mess; as if I was standing 50'-60' away and trying to play without my glasses on.

None of the changes fix things like all the colours being washed out, the sky looking like poo poo or things like chrome being a flat grey no matter what. I could overlook the shallowness of the gameplay to some degree if the game was at least pretty to look at, but god drat it's like they cut every corner they could to ship this ASAP. The (main) story is interesting but that's really all it has going for it. I think my gaming OCD is the only thing that keeps me plowing through this one bit at a time. Someone mentioned earlier in the threat that this game is best played in brief spurts so the sameness didn't wear on you and they were absolutely right.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

I get 10-15 frames with an i5, a 970 and 8gb of ram on low. It's loving terribly optimised.

I've barely played the game to even see the bugs because it runs like such poo poo.

That's literally my setup and I got 30's to 40's with maxed settings guaranteed. Something's wrong with your poo poo.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

ZombyDog posted:

10-15 frames with that get up? That doesn't sound like an optimisation problem - there has to be something else going on there.

Yeah seriously. Same setup here, 50-60 on maximum. The game is great on PC, though I'm glad I got it for $40 as $60 is a bit on the high side for this game. $30-$40 would be a fair price.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
I mean, what the gently caress would it be? It's not like I'm getting artifacting or anything that would suggest my card's hosed. The audio's constantly clipping though.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I've noticed the game running a bit better recently. I don't know if it was new drivers or the patches but whatever works. I do think that this game was originally a 360/PS3 game that got shelved and brought back out at a later time. The texture quality, some of the models, and how the engine works make it seem like it's pretty old. Things you would expect to be breakable in this day and age are solid and unmoving like they would be in an older game. It makes me sad because I really like this game, it's got some cool stuff in it but it has some real issues.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

I mean, what the gently caress would it be? It's not like I'm getting artifacting or anything that would suggest my card's hosed. The audio's constantly clipping though.

Definitely a problem with your computer then. Check your temperatures for throttling. Might be a CPU issue too.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
Spoilery question for those that have beaten the game.

I know Joe and Leo show up in Mafia 3 thanks to an rear end in a top hat friend. My question is, do they have any bearing on the core plot, or are they entirely tied to Vito's sidequests?

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

Rookersh posted:

Spoilery question for those that have beaten the game.

I know Joe and Leo show up in Mafia 3 thanks to an rear end in a top hat friend. My question is, do they have any bearing on the core plot, or are they entirely tied to Vito's sidequests?

Leo does, Joe is more like a non-speaking cameo.

N17R4M
Aug 18, 2012

Because yes we actually DID want that land

blackguy32 posted:

Leo does, Joe is more like a non-speaking cameo.

So wait, was Joe turned into fish chum, or was Joe Leo's driver who gives you that sly grin at the end? Because Vito claims the former, but I can't help but feel Leo's driver looks familiar.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
finaly beat it. it was ok. it dragged near the end and their definitely wasnt enough mission variety, the story was also good but also dragged a bit. i chose the stay and rule together ending, because gently caress it, i would rule better then sal and keep the dipshits in line and starting gang wars, also james came off as a massive hypocrite so gently caress him.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

N17R4M posted:

So wait, was Joe turned into fish chum, or was Joe Leo's driver who gives you that sly grin at the end? Because Vito claims the former, but I can't help but feel Leo's driver looks familiar.

Joe is the limo driver. I think Vito just got some misinformation.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Dapper_Swindler posted:

finaly beat it. it was ok. it dragged near the end and their definitely wasnt enough mission variety, the story was also good but also dragged a bit. i chose the stay and rule together ending, because gently caress it, i would rule better then sal and keep the dipshits in line and starting gang wars, also james came off as a massive hypocrite so gently caress him.

I thought it was kind of weird how when you beat the game and load back into the game it puts you before you make the choice.

Something goofy happened when I (ending spoiler) chose the "kill" ending. Father James puts a bomb under your car but when I left the car I took wasn't immediately there so I just took one of the other ones. Which made it look like he just put bombs in all the cars there.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

spooky like this! posted:

I thought it was kind of weird how when you beat the game and load back into the game it puts you before you make the choice.

Something goofy happened when I (ending spoiler) chose the "kill" ending. Father James puts a bomb under your car but when I left the car I took wasn't immediately there so I just took one of the other ones. Which made it look like he just put bombs in all the cars there.

That sounds like something a Catholic priest would do, so I'm okay with that.

The game has the IRA in it after all.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Did anyone else kill Cassandra? I can't figure out what to do next, seemed to suggest she'd be replaced by a guy named Emmanuel and there's a green "search" circle around her former hide out. But I can't get anything to trigger. Help?

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Wow, this thread is completely dead already. Did not expect that.

I just finished the game and really enjoyed it. Definitely best played in one hour doses, I pushed hard to finish today and can see how it would be tiresome for those who finished weeks ago. Also can't understand how it's physically possible to finish this weeks ago, but that's another story.

Great plot, great driving and shooting, great setting, nice graphics besides some weird lighting. I know the PC version was a turd but I don't understand why I'm in such a small minority in thinking it was great. Usually I'm much more picky than the average goon.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

HOUSE IN NAWLEANS


HYNUGNHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH A RISING A SUNNNNNNNN

Yeah, the filler felt too much like filler is what I think kinda killed the game's potential.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Wow, this thread is completely dead already. Did not expect that.

I just finished the game and really enjoyed it. Definitely best played in one hour doses, I pushed hard to finish today and can see how it would be tiresome for those who finished weeks ago. Also can't understand how it's physically possible to finish this weeks ago, but that's another story.

Great plot, great driving and shooting, great setting, nice graphics besides some weird lighting. I know the PC version was a turd but I don't understand why I'm in such a small minority in thinking it was great. Usually I'm much more picky than the average goon.

There's no reason whatsoever to replay it, there's absolutely nothing to do outside of the repetitive main story missions. Once you're done, you're done. There's nothing to flesh out story wise either, it's pretty straight forward, guy gets angry, guy gets revenge, maybe that bald guy was joe.

It's also currently in that period where there's a huge gap between what it's worth and what the price is. The thread will probably pick back up when it's $20 on steam during the christmas sale, but until then i think everybody is done with it, either through completion or frustration.

gileadexile
Jul 20, 2012

I'm on my second playthrough, just have the French Ward left. I dunno, I don't think every game NEEDS to have GTA like side stuff, but as fleshed out as some parts of this game feels, there is precious little to do other than the colored missions you get in each district.

Even the collectibles feel pointless because they don't have more than one save slot like 2, and even though I don't consider myself an achievement pursuer, the thought of having no reward for actually clearing the map of blips is..empty?

Fun game, but I really don't see myself getting random cars off the street and just driving around watching them get dirty like I would do in 2.

Kinda sad, really.

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Hel
Oct 9, 2012

Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

. I know the PC version was a turd but I don't understand why I'm in such a small minority in thinking it was great. Usually I'm much more picky than the average goon.
This is why:

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Definitely best played in one hour doses, I pushed hard to finish today and can see how it would be tiresome for those who finished weeks ago.

When you play it for a while and after every good/interesting mission you are forced to do a lot of busy work to get to the next one it kills whatever goodwill the rest of the game builds up. Having it work like the previous Mafia games where the only think you had to do was get back to base/go to sleep would have worked better, I mean even Saints Row did away with having to do fill a bar to unlock plot missions because it dragged the game down and their system was a lot better to start with.



I actually went back and played Mafia 2 a second time and I like it a whole lot more now than I did when I played it the first time a few years ago, having to follow the traffic laws and stuff is a more interesting social stealth game than Assassin's Creed and makes you care about how your drive and treat your car since it can also be wanted instead of just you. In fact I felt more watched and oppressed by the cops in 2 than I ever did in 3 despite it making a point of it.
Now the question is if I should go back and play the first game for like the tenth time.

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