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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
I thought the show did a good job considering the circumstances that have been hurting this tourney with the injuries.

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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Love Graves commentary especially when he's biased against DIY

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
:lol: They are suspending Paul Ellering in a cage for the Dusty Classic Finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDy6MAXNP1s

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Taped

Basic Chunnel posted:

drat they're gonna send Roddy back to ROH live on the network
Wait what

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
There is a Paul conference call at noon today
https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/797118491019149312

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

rovert posted:

NXT Toronto has only HALF of the lower bowl sold. WWE will likely have a major rethink about the quality of the TV show.
Better writing is needed ASAP, I know that isn't the hottest take, but the show has suffered from complacency issues where they think doing the same structure (Best of three series over many months where the competitors rarely wrestle, contract signings, every match being a squash) has led to this.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
NXT TV should go live even though it would the brand an even bigger money pit. It would add surprise, the crowds would be less worn by the end of it and would probably raise standards of the matches. Like at least Joe and Nakamura have a good build for their match, what the gently caress has Asuka done to build her match with Mickie?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Thauros posted:

I'd go to a Takeover easy but my interest in going to a run of the mill NXT house show is way less than it would've been a year ago. I've seen Nakamura a ton of times live in a more intimate enviornment and most of the rest of the roster doesn't do a lot for me rn.
Seeing Nakamura at Stage AE would be pretty cool

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Alain Post posted:

Hmm seems like HHH is actually bad at promoting wrestling. Bad news if he thinks he's the future.
Yeah nothing matters anymore, there is no one who could own this company to run it competently :smith:

NXT needs to start making stories and stop making shows about being the set up for the Takeover with supercards that are built up with little build and emotion.

Its like saying how those Marvel movies are just commercials for the next movies except way more valid

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://twitter.com/TripleH/status/799023279675756560
https://twitter.com/carlosthedwarf_/status/799023715505737728
This house of cards is falling down!

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://twitter.com/TheFrayMovement/status/799033446043709440
My god it happened, the stagnation of the NXT brand broke Fray's love of Paul :smith:

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

sleepwalkers posted:

The Revival are maybe one of the best tag teams in the world right now and DIY are really, really good. The division is pretty bare at the moment outside of that, but having two spectacular tag teams is better than either Raw or Smackdown at the moment.

The biggest problem with NXT is a complete lack of momentum. It's the same thing Lucha Underground has, now that it's not new: the weekly episodes don't really feel like they're building toward anything. You get a string of meaningless taped episodes before and after a Takeover. Nothing on the weekly show feels like it's a can't-miss.
It also doesn't help that both shows are taped so there is no genuine surprise/crowd gets tired after the 4th taping

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
I do wonder if this will stymie the great ROH/Indy raid of Winter 2016/17 or they will double down because they know people love the Young Bucks and Adam Cole.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

flashy_mcflash posted:

Less so with Cole but I'd be shocked if they didn't make a hard play for the Bucks.
I mean knowing HHH is going to push to lowball them like he has before and with Ricochet I won't be surprised if the Bucks decline

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://twitter.com/timmy8271/status/799416113176133632

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Rogue Copter Pilot posted:

I'm here in Boston. Lots of changes to that card. Roddy Strong just had a hell of a match with Cedric Alexander, opener was No Way Jose and TM61 vs Sanity, Oney Lorcan faced Sampson, Liv Morgan faced Nikki Cross. Bobby Roode seems like he's the odd man out :smith:
Is the crowd as bad as it looks because it looked pretty empty from pictures I've seen before bell time

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://twitter.com/JJWilliamsWON/status/799852901258629120

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

The_Rob posted:

I agree actually. They are young and green, but they move well and look easily teachable. I hope they do well.
I also prefer them pushing young 20 year old talent, than old 38 years old talent that are nearing or are past their prime.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Reeves looks exactly what I envision a failed Rock clone would look like

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Some good rear end video promos on this episode

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
What they need now is multiple challengers, hell make a Triple threat or Fatal Fourway for the main event; enough of this tedious log jam bullshit.

Or better yet have Joe and/or Nakamura have legit matches on the TV that aren't just squashes.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

projecthalaxy posted:

I basically know nothing about the women's indies so I would be really interested to see a CWC equivalent in the women's division. Get Lita or Trish to come back and be the color commentator like Bryan was.
Oh god no

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

dont even fink about it posted:

I think it's just a really dumb spot that they'll stop doing. Every spot that involves plopping two opponents on top of each other always sucks and doesn't make sense anyhow. Just powerbomb them on the mat, duh.
They should have just kept doing that power bomb spot where they lift both partners and then ram them into each other before powerbombing both of them

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://twitter.com/cohirohiroko/status/805032512405708800
Cien in his old Sombra gear!

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
And Roddy Strong vs Tommy End
https://twitter.com/Tarratastic/status/807031666778718208
My god
https://twitter.com/JJWilliamsWON/status/807046795012382720

achillesforever6 fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Dec 9, 2016

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Ask Me For Warez posted:

That is a lot of beef in one ring.
Don't forget Ho Ho
https://twitter.com/WWEDozovic/status/807280883594051584

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Tokamak posted:

The main event was probably the worst match. Lots of show boating to cover for Joe and Nakamura not doing anything.
Ah the Nakamura house show special.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Corey burying the Drifter at any chance he gets is one of my favorite things on NXT

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Forget putting the belts on AOP and having the mania takeover tag match be TM61 vs AOP here is your big tag match right here
https://twitter.com/JJWilliamsWON/status/810369970794205184

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Tonight's main event has a great match with Roddy finally being Roddy in NXT

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
We are getting to the Tozawa factory!!
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/812358301048602624

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Oof that's brutal, but probably fair

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

rovert posted:

Details will hopefully be in the Observer but NXT is going under a major rethink/crisis of confidence. They are acutely aware of the complaints about the product and there's people in NXT who think the low drawing touring is hurting the brand.

Shawn Michaels has meant largely nothing as trainer. Not a Dusty Rhodes replacement. They might be in the process of bringing another paternalistic figure on board.

Common sense and simple numbers but there's fears of releases early in the new year. They've a lot of trainees not working out due to either injuries or lack of progression.
Wouldn't that be why they are interested in Steve Corino?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Almas pulling out Destino ruled

E: Its interesting seeing how different WWE Japanese crowds are compared to NJPW Japanese crowds

achillesforever6 fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Dec 29, 2016

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Benne posted:

0 new posts an hour into this week's episode.

Maybe they should rethink the whole "put month-old house shows on the Network" idea.

I would but I have pick up basketball until 845 and then I eat at this bar with my Dad's friends

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Benne posted:

0 new posts an hour into this week's episode.

Maybe they should rethink the whole "put month-old house shows on the Network" idea.
Honestly they should ditch Full Sail or make it a big house show and the taped NXT show is them touring the country because this and the Osaka episode were much better than most NXT episodes last year

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
They just need to really work out the log jam that occurs in the main event scene, stop making the title matches happen at Takeovers or at least have smaller feuds that lead to title matches occur during the tapings. That and stop giving the title to men past their prime/constantly half assing it.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Beef Jerky Robot posted:

Who are these guys
I love Samoa Joe but he is past his prime and was very close in my most overrated ballot for the PSP awards because of how heavily he was used in the NXT main event scene in 2016, Nakamura since the Zayn match has been basically wrestling like he is bored and is complacent in giving the crowd a "Best of Nakamura" experience since they pop for that, and Bobby Roode is old and he better thank CFO every day since that theme song is the only thing keeping his boring dry rear end over.

Ideally you would have Tommy End, Roddy, and Cien mixing it up in the main event scene, but the show moves at a glacial pace that everyone has to wait their turn on the convener belt of Get a Title match, win title, rematch for 2 more Takeovers, and rinse and repeat with the next guy. They need triple threat or fatal fourway title matches.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Tino is going to be a bigger star in the WWE than he was in the NFL :v:

Also WWE posted a bunch of videos of Hero back in the early NXT days which brings me back when I waited for those shows to show up on Dailymotion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz8OkBzR-yM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Bu37q7h38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTZr1ERgkK0
Those were the days

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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

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oatgan posted:

for all of you worried about nxt not preserving tommy end's satanism his new name is allister black
Tommy is good with coming up with names

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