|
i really hope its dune
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:38
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 30, 2024 13:02 |
|
|
Toadvine posted:Like drat, did you really ask such a dumb snarky question? Those duders were just space truckers though, if you can only send 6 people or whatever it was to save the planet it'd probably be a good idea to give them a psych evaluation is all I'm saying. It felt really forced and about as bad as the Armageddon space madness.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:39
|
|
|
Woden posted:Those duders were just space truckers though, if you can only send 6 people or whatever it was to save the planet it'd probably be a good idea to give them a psych evaluation is all I'm saying. It felt really forced and about as bad as the Armageddon space madness. They probably sent the people most qualified to keep the ship operational and explode the bomb at the end, which doesn't necessarily translate to 'best astronaut for long term hauls.' Also, out of 12 people (there was a first mission remember, Sunshine is about the 2nd one) only 1 went all Sol Invictus and sabotaged the original mission then sabotaged the 2nd mission as well when he got on that ship. Better than 90% (11/12) is a pretty drat good mark to hit; psych evals can't catch everything 100%. I'll grant you the tone of the movie changed drastically and I wish it was less 'space horror monster' all of a sudden but it was good still imo.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:42
|
|
|
Toadvine posted:Every naysayer about extra terrestrial life is basing their pessimism on the very narrow span of human understanding and it's freaking pissing me off Maybe there's methane based life on Titan ? That would also be a good target (besides endless Mars missions). They dropped the Huygens probe on it but it only had, like 1 hour of battery ?! WTF why not make one of those plutonium batteries for it and make it float ???????? imagine that thing sailing on a methane sea and peering into the depths ! I don't know who programs the NASA and ESA mission, but they have 0 imagination. You have hordes of highly trained scientists at your disposal and this is what you come up with ?!
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:43
|
|
|
Space exploration is a pipe dream. Cya.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:43
|
|
|
Beef Turret posted:Space exploration is a pipe dream. Cya. What if I were to tell you we are exploring space right now?
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:44
|
|
|
ill bet that movie "dune" was pretty good, but ive never seen it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:45
|
|
|
just ray posted:i really hope its dune Arrakis you piece of poo poo
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:45
|
|
|
Decebal posted:I don't know who programs the NASA and ESA mission, but they have 0 imagination. You have hordes of highly trained scientists at your disposal and this is what you come up with ?! things are much harder to execute than to imagine. Also, budget. Beef Turret posted:Space exploration is a pipe dream. Cya. posting from 1930 I see
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:45
|
|
|
Moridin920 posted:posting from 1930 I see a lot of people seem to think that physically sending people to a planet/moon is the only way to explore space
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:52
|
|
|
Decebal posted:A bit of X-ray only makes organism heartier
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:55
|
|
|
I looked at that "send a tiny spacecraft at 20% light speed with lasers" proposal. Pretty cool.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:55
|
|
|
Germstore posted:We know certain things about organic chemistry that should be generally applicable to extraterrestrial life. Right, and hypothetical biochemistry accounts for abundant cosmic elements that are scientifically viable to support life, without having to view it first hand. I'd wager we (earth) are roughly middle of the pack when it comes to our development as living organisms. To presume we're the first or only intelligent life in the universe is such a human opinion to hold , because it's simultaneously dumb and hubristic
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:56
|
|
|
Decebal posted:That would also be a good target (besides endless Mars missions). They dropped the Huygens probe on it but it only had, like 1 hour of battery ?! WTF why not make one of those plutonium batteries for it and make it float ???????? imagine that thing sailing on a methane sea and peering into the depths ! Huygens was just a little bonus probe tacked onto Cassini, not a dedicated mission, so it had even tighter cost and weight constraints than usual. There's a proposal (not sure how serious at this point) to do exactly what you're suggesting in the future though.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:57
|
|
|
Toadvine posted:Right, and hypothetical biochemistry accounts for abundant cosmic elements that are scientifically viable to support life, without having to view it first hand. I'd wager we (earth) are roughly middle of the pack when it comes to our development as living organisms. *looks around at the infinity of creation* "IT'S ALL ABOUT MEEEEEE"
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 17:58
|
|
|
Toadvine posted:Right, and hypothetical biochemistry accounts for abundant cosmic elements that are scientifically viable to support life, without having to view it first hand. I'd wager we (earth) are roughly middle of the pack when it comes to our development as living organisms. It's entirely possible though. We may not be the first but we're probably among the earliest. The Sun is about as old as a star with terrestrial planets can be.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:06
|
|
|
Germstore posted:It's entirely possible though. We may not be the first but we're probably among the earliest. The Sun is about as old as a star with terrestrial planets can be. theres a lot of stars in the universe. like more than a hundred
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:13
|
|
|
If that's so then we need to expand into the galaxy pronto and become the preeminent species we've always known ourselves to be
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:16
|
|
|
Parallax Scroll posted:theres a lot of stars in the universe. like more than a hundred And any older than ours won't have terrestrial planets. So you'll have populations around stars as old as the sun that may have advanced life, and then younger stars that may only have simple life because they haven't been around as long. Older stars aren't going to have terrestrial planets. So we are likely among the most advanced species rather than middling. Technological advancement can happen fast enough that it's pretty much certain that there will be species more advanced than us, but biologically they may not be more advanced at all.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:20
|
|
|
If the 2nd closest star to us potentially has a planet with life, it bodes well for the idea that life is common in the universe, especially since red dwarf stars are like 80% of the stars out there.Parallax Scroll posted:theres a lot of stars in the universe. like more than a hundred That's true, but those early old stars probably aren't metal  enough to have planets.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:20
|
|
|
It's possible that the first species are only now beginning to take to the stars. Spreading across the galaxy takes a long long time assuming no amount of technological advancement can make FTL travel happen.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:23
|
|
|
Any civilization that can make a teeny tiny black hole can harvest unlimited energy with whatever the gently caress matter they feel like feeding the black hole with. Maybe advanced species never move past their solar system because they don't have to.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:26
|
|
|
Germstore posted:Maybe advanced species never move past their solar system because they don't have to. Yeah but that doesn't really account for curiosity or exploration or stuff like that. If you have unlimited energy why wouldn't you want to go see what's going on elsewhere?
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:28
|
|
|
Decebal posted:Maybe there's methane based life on Titan ? Also if they are worried about sterilization you could have an orbiter sent to Europa that keeps spheres in a sterilized environment until it drops them down to the surface. They then use internal heat to melt through the ice. At least we got a jet that nobody will ever need though.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:43
|
|
|
The behavior of other civilizations is a fun thought exercise but I always come back to the realization that our amassed understanding of the universe (let alone ourselves) is inconceivably limited. We could very well be inundated with alien anime broadcasts but we're still on basic cable, so to speak
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:53
|
|
|
Germstore posted:Any civilization that can make a teeny tiny black hole can harvest unlimited energy with whatever the gently caress matter they feel like feeding the black hole with. Maybe advanced species never move past their solar system because they don't have to. But stars tend to become dangerous as they grow old, unless you're around a stable red dwarf or something, so they would have to leave at one point.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 18:58
|
|
|
all this poo poo is just made up fantasy in some guys head
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:00
|
|
|
Decebal posted:But stars tend to become dangerous as they grow old, unless you're around a stable red dwarf or something, so they would have to leave at one point. In a billion years if we're still hanging out in the solar system we'd probably be mostly on space stations, so just head for the outer solar system or even the oort cloud when the sun gets feisty. The thing we'd need most is matter and the solar system is the best place to get it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:02
|
|
|
If in a billion years we're still tethered to our corporeal form I'll be real disappointed
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:08
|
|
|
The theory is you create a black hole with the mass of a large freighter, which takes far more energy than we can currently produce. The smaller a black hole is the more hawking radiation it gives off. So this black hole is giving off around three orders of magnitude more energy than the earth uses. If you leave it alone there's no net energy gain and the black hole evaporates in a few years. If you feed it with with a few hundred grams of matter, any matter whatsoever, per second you get energy from it as long as you keep it fed. This is direct conversion of mass to energy, no need for anti-matter or fusion. It's certainly speculative, but the theory is sound.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:14
|
|
|
Germstore posted:The theory is you create a black hole with the mass of a large freighter, which takes far more energy than we can currently produce. The smaller a black hole is the more hawking radiation it gives off. So this black hole is giving off around three orders of magnitude more energy than the earth uses. If you leave it alone there's no net energy gain and the black hole evaporates in a few years. If you feed it with with a few hundred grams of matter, any matter whatsoever, per second you get energy from it as long as you keep it fed. This is direct conversion of mass to energy, no need for anti-matter or fusion. It's certainly speculative, but the theory is sound. Let's focus on more real & feasible projects, like fusion (which, by the way, is only a decade away), before we start messing with things like black holes; which are "magic" as far as scientists are concerned. Fucker, how are you gonna tell me that physics break down ?! What does that even mean ? Is it like Lord of the Rings and elfen magic ?
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:27
|
|
|
watever u say big guy
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:29
|
|
|
Decebal posted:Fucker, how are you gonna tell me that physics break down ?! What does that even mean ? Is it like Lord of the Rings and elfen magic ? it means math stops working like we think it does like this is super simplified but imagine that at light speed suddenly 2 + 2 does not equal 4 Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Aug 25, 2016 |
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:31
|
|
|
Decebal posted:Let's focus on more real & feasible projects, like fusion (which, by the way, is only a decade away), before we start messing with things like black holes; which are "magic" as far as scientists are concerned. Fucker, how are you gonna tell me that physics break down ?! What does that even mean ? Is it like Lord of the Rings and elfen magic ? I'm more talking about what alien races may have and what we may have hopefully before the sun dies. The starting energy needed is massive so you're not going to be able to skip over massive scale space based solar; it just wouldn't need to be dyson swarm scale. The advantage is once you have it going it is far far more efficient than fusion and you could keep a civilization going even after its star has died.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:37
|
|
|
How long till we can complete the ascent to transcendence?
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:47
|
|
|
Crowsbeak posted:How long till we can complete the ascent to transcendence? We've been doing this for some time, check out the religions of the world and find your answer. Hell most texts have prophets and whoever boarding flying clouds and flying up into the firmament and poo poo. We've been hitchhiking space since forever
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:49
|
|
|
Crowsbeak posted:How long till we can complete the ascent to transcendence? 5
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 19:49
|
|
|
Boomstick Quaid posted:We've been doing this for some time, check out the religions of the world and find your answer. Hell most texts have prophets and whoever boarding flying clouds and flying up into the firmament and poo poo. We've been hitchhiking space since forever "magic dude goes the one direction people can't" probably could be thought of without seeing it literally happen
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 21:46
|
|
|
OMGVBFLOL posted:"magic dude goes the one direction people can't" probably could be thought of without seeing it literally happen No all religions are ufo religions
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 21:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 30, 2024 13:02 |
|
|
just ray posted:ill bet that movie "dune" was pretty good, but ive never seen it. You know what's good was that movie Dorf Goes Fishing.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2016 22:31
|
|
