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Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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If you're gonna post a giant wall of dicks they should at least be unique dicks.

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Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Decebal posted:

Why not ? They output energy don't they ? They also live longer than than the whole Universe and 100's of times longer than our Sun. So life has a lot of chances to get interesting.

Tidal lock might be an issue but whatever. Heat moves around and think how interesting life on a planet like this would look ! Also we could have solar farms on the always sunny side for virtually unlimited energy and thus solve a big ecology problem and move towards ascension !

"orbiting something that outputs energy" is a pretty low bar to set for habitability.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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+1 Mystic

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Boomstick Quaid posted:

Sunshine is retarded because that dude freezes like a Popsicle immediately upon taking off his helmet.

In a vacuum you'll get really cold really fast, not because space is cold but because your moisture will evaporate.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Toadvine posted:

Every naysayer about extra terrestrial life is basing their pessimism on the very narrow span of human understanding and it's freaking pissing me off

We know certain things about organic chemistry that should be generally applicable to extraterrestrial life.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Beef Turret posted:

Space exploration is a pipe dream. Cya.

What if I were to tell you we are exploring space right now?

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Toadvine posted:

Right, and hypothetical biochemistry accounts for abundant cosmic elements that are scientifically viable to support life, without having to view it first hand. I'd wager we (earth) are roughly middle of the pack when it comes to our development as living organisms.

To presume we're the first or only intelligent life in the universe is such a human opinion to hold , because it's simultaneously dumb and hubristic

It's entirely possible though. We may not be the first but we're probably among the earliest. The Sun is about as old as a star with terrestrial planets can be.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Parallax Scroll posted:

theres a lot of stars in the universe. like more than a hundred

And any older than ours won't have terrestrial planets. So you'll have populations around stars as old as the sun that may have advanced life, and then younger stars that may only have simple life because they haven't been around as long. Older stars aren't going to have terrestrial planets. So we are likely among the most advanced species rather than middling. Technological advancement can happen fast enough that it's pretty much certain that there will be species more advanced than us, but biologically they may not be more advanced at all.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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It's possible that the first species are only now beginning to take to the stars. Spreading across the galaxy takes a long long time assuming no amount of technological advancement can make FTL travel happen.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Any civilization that can make a teeny tiny black hole can harvest unlimited energy with whatever the gently caress matter they feel like feeding the black hole with. Maybe advanced species never move past their solar system because they don't have to.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Decebal posted:

But stars tend to become dangerous as they grow old, unless you're around a stable red dwarf or something, so they would have to leave at one point.

In a billion years if we're still hanging out in the solar system we'd probably be mostly on space stations, so just head for the outer solar system or even the oort cloud when the sun gets feisty. The thing we'd need most is matter and the solar system is the best place to get it.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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The theory is you create a black hole with the mass of a large freighter, which takes far more energy than we can currently produce. The smaller a black hole is the more hawking radiation it gives off. So this black hole is giving off around three orders of magnitude more energy than the earth uses. If you leave it alone there's no net energy gain and the black hole evaporates in a few years. If you feed it with with a few hundred grams of matter, any matter whatsoever, per second you get energy from it as long as you keep it fed. This is direct conversion of mass to energy, no need for anti-matter or fusion. It's certainly speculative, but the theory is sound.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Decebal posted:

Let's focus on more real & feasible projects, like fusion (which, by the way, is only a decade away), before we start messing with things like black holes; which are "magic" as far as scientists are concerned. Fucker, how are you gonna tell me that physics break down ?! What does that even mean ? Is it like Lord of the Rings and elfen magic ?

I'm more talking about what alien races may have and what we may have hopefully before the sun dies. The starting energy needed is massive so you're not going to be able to skip over massive scale space based solar; it just wouldn't need to be dyson swarm scale.

The advantage is once you have it going it is far far more efficient than fusion and you could keep a civilization going even after its star has died.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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In alien anime Lum is a human.

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Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

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Because sub FTL travel isn't exploration as we know it because it takes generations. You don't leave a star system to satisfy wanderlust, you will never ever see anything that isn't the massive void between stars. You move because you have run out of resources and if you can convert matter to energy on command the resources of a single star system would last longer than the host star.

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