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hoo boy all my filipino friends on facebook are freaking the gently caress out about Obama canceling his meeting with duterte.
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Xelkelvos posted:It could make things worse, or it could make a clean slate to try something new that actually works like in Nicaragua. Idk why Russia is in that list. Australia or South Korea would be more likely to try and exercise some political muscle to control the Philippines. Japan might too if not for the fact there's probably still a significant of sore wounds from WW2. uh are you seriously using Nicaragua as a positive example of American/Western intervention?
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Sep 6, 2016 09:35
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 some cool pinoy facebook memes
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Sep 7, 2016 12:31
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Xelkelvos posted:I won't speak on the justification on that and the US was definitely in the wrong on it, but at the very least, from those remains a more stable and healthier state came out of it compared to other countries that we've intervened in. It's definitely also possible for that to happen from an internal effort, but with active resisting forces in place, it makes change harder. The reason why Sandinista Nicaragua was unstable and unhealthy was because of it being undermined and sabotaged at every point by the United States. Irregardless Nicaraguans just ended up re-electing Ortega into power, who is now more powerful than he ever was in the 80s
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Sep 7, 2016 12:45
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Xelkelvos posted:I haven't really looked into Nicaragua all that much fwiw, so I'll defer to your judgement there regarding Ortega and he government there. The most I've read up on was a recent article and an NPR story concerning how Nicaragua's drug problems are far less worse compared to surrounding countries due to implementing rehabilitation and mentoring programs to prevent children and teens from joining gangs via ex-gang members and other diversion techniques that tough on crime types would dismiss for being too weak on criminals. reforms by the FSLN, the political party the United States funded a brutal war that killed thousands to overthrow. hell, the economist said this about their police reforms: quote:Nicaragua’s police force is in danger of giving socialism a good name. The country is one of the poorest in the hemisphere. Yet its annual murder rate, 11 per 100,000 people, is among the lowest in Latin America and eight times lower than in neighbouring Honduras. nicaragua is one of the worst examples of positive american influence also sorry for derailing the Philippines thread
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gradenko_2000 posted:The official line being spouted by the administration seems to be that Duterte didn't "endorse" the execution, so much as simply allow the Indonesians to do as they wished, in accordance with their laws: “No, I said that we will continue to respect each other’s judicial processes. The rule of law is what matters, gives order to the community.” lol
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