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I graduated this last Spring. I study counseling psychology. The amount of students that stepped out of lectures covering child abuse, rape, war, ect... was shocking. Like really, you want to be a therapist? You can't exactly step out of a therapy session -- why the gently caress are you here. However, we didn't have trigger warnings, we had "self care" which is basically placing the responsibility for taking emotional care of oneself on the individual, where it should be.
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Moridin920 posted:Yeah I've always felt bad for people who actually have PTSD from Vietnam/Korea or whatever and poo poo who now get to deal with all this crap. People get PTSD from quite a few places. Many non-combat veterans develop PTSD. Similarly for bullying, rape, child abuse, and a lot of other civilian 'trauma'. I can say for sure that anyone with PTSD who has had some sort of helps knows that they are responsible for knowing and avoiding their triggers and handling things when they are triggered. That's the point of therapy, to help someone take care of themselves. The idea of trigger warnings is borderline emotionally abusive -- it makes people's emotional well being dependent on those presenting the material.
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drat. I almost forgot how much I hate trigger warnings until this thread.
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The first I saw trigger warnings was in mental illness forums maybe 15 years ago, for BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder). It kind of made sense because discussion about cutting/self-harm can directly lead to cutting/self-harm for those with BPD. Avoidance is not a healthy way of dealing with BPD (actually Mindfulness is) but since online forums are casual and not a professional form of therapy it made some sense as an attempt to avoid people cutting because a post got them in in a bad mindset. Then it expanded to talking about suicide and depression. Then it expanded to sexual assault and PTSD and "becoming upset" Then it expanded to any word someone may find offensive (like retard or bitch) Then it expanded to exposure to alternative points of view that you disagree with Avoidance actually empowers and intensifies mental illness. Mindful exposure to negative stimuli is how BPD etc are treated. Mindfulness/Meditation teaches you to allow thoughts, both positive and negative, to freely come and go without judgment. Kind of like how if I say "do not think of a pink bunny", a pink bunny pops into your mind. To get rid of the pink bunny, you let it come and go without focusing on it. If you focus on trying to get rid of the pink bunny or obsessing over avoiding the pink bunny, you actually empower it and it stays in your head. For mental illness it isn't a pink bunny but something that reminds you of trauma, but the same concept applies. basically Trigger Warnings are loving stupid except for maybe the most neurotic and untreated cases of BPD
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Meta Ridley posted:Avoidance actually empowers and intensifies mental illness. Mindful exposure to negative stimuli is how BPD etc are treated. The entire point of triggers is mindfulness. They are not suppose to be avoided unless someone is in a particularly vulnerable state -- someone may for example avoid triggers while they are grieving for a loss. However, that is mindful avoidance. Triggers are suppose to connect context to emotions which until they have been understood to be 'triggered' are often confusing for those who suffer them. It's suppose to make you say "oh, that sounded a lot like a gun shot and probably reminded my body of that time I was being shot at, that's probably why I'm shaking right now" and that mindfulness calms the reaction.
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drat is this happening everywhere else ? I feel like the difference in hardiness between us and the Chinese or Russians is becoming alarmingly high ! Are these the people who will fight to protect us when we're old ?! We cannot allow a hardiness gap to develop between us and the communists !!
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HARDCORE ALLIANCES lol
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epileptic_ev posted:HARDCORE ALLIANCES lol the working title for the Putin/Obama sex tape
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This is such a great thread to read with this extension right now
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Al Cowens posted:This is such a great thread to read with this extension right now yeah you're apparently a member of the opposite end of the spectrum who think it's hilarious to go around honking the N word out all the time because it's edgy
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William Stoner posted:drat. I almost forgot how much I hate trigger warnings until this thread. sounds like you need a safe space
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I like how the idea of safe spaces has mutated in this big bad monster that has to be taken down
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They should all have to watch a full season of anime before enrolling for classes
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Moridin920 posted:yeah you're apparently a member of the opposite end of the spectrum who think it's hilarious to go around honking the N word out all the time because it's edgy
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Gaunab posted:I like how the idea of safe spaces has mutated in this big bad monster that has to be taken down we need a safe space from safe spaces
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That's the guy from teen fortress 2, I can tell because of his head phones.
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epileptic_ev posted:yasmin tayag gets fired from her job and moves back to scarlem get married to ~juffs~ human being shut the gently caress up dare
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Moridin920 posted:yeah you're apparently a member of the opposite end of the spectrum who think it's hilarious to go around honking the N word out all the time because it's edgy Are you surprised people are reacting this way ? There were serious articles about cafeterias banning fried rice and poo poo like that. I guess you're either a nazi or a pissbaby no middle-ground anymore.
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blank you are self and ur famil op
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That Robot posted:shut the gently caress up dare shut the gently caress up turnip face
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epileptic_ev posted:shut the gently caress up turnip face where did you go for three months and why are you back?
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epileptic_ev posted:shut the gently caress up turnip face what are you Like I keep seeing you get banned You got banned a bunch this week
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if there are no safe spaces how will we know when our spaces are unsafe really makes you think
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That Robot posted:where did you go for three months and why are you back? just want my freedom
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I really appreciate a letter about safe spaces coming from one of the wealthiest schools in one of the most segregated cities in America. No wonder they don't want safe spaces there; they don't need them when the whole campus is already utterly divorced from reality.
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I'm glad I graduated before social media became a cancerous growth on American civilization. Although most of my classes were held in a building literally named after a lynch mob instigator who got butthurt when Teddy Roosevelt invited Booker T. Washington to the White House 
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I'm glad I graduated before social media became a cancerous growth on American civilization. Right? I was real bitter for a while about graduating in the same year the economy tanked, but looking back, I'm super loving grateful I'm not in school at the apex of tumblr-culture and twitter slapfights. EDIT: And I'm real loving happy I'm already married too. If I had to worry about dating in this day and age, I'd probably save myself the trouble and go step out onto some railroad tracks.
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Moridin920 posted:That said I feel like someone there doesn't get 'trigger warnings' because it's more like just letting people know what the topic will be before they get into it so they can make their own decision on whether they want to participate or not and I see nothing wrong with that? Tho obv it goes too far when people get mad that a pomegranate isn't tagged as 'gore.' I made this for you! 
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Let's take a look at D&D's opinion on the subjectKeeshhound posted:University of Chicago to Incoming Freshmen: Don’t Expect ‘Safe Spaces’ Here Geostomp posted:How has "don't be insensitive bigots" become such a controversial issue? Especially withe people who freak out whenever white men, American Christianity, or history are questioned? Perestroika posted:At this point I'm becoming increasingly convinced that literally nobody who bitches about safe spaces even knows what the term means. Jerry Manderbilt posted:they seem more interested in sucking their own dicks over how "real" and "tough" they are Keeshhound posted:Yeah, but UoC is one of, if not the premiere social science school(s) in the US. If anyone was going to be up to date on this stuff, you'd expect it to be them. Ytlaya posted:They also probably have never experienced any real trauma to speak of and can't comprehend why being reminded of a traumatic experience would be deeply unpleasant.
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pentyne posted:Let's take a look at D&D's opinion on the subject
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William Stoner posted:I graduated this last Spring. I study counseling psychology. The amount of students that stepped out of lectures covering child abuse, rape, war, ect... was shocking. Like really, you want to be a therapist? You can't exactly step out of a therapy session -- why the gently caress are you here. However, we didn't have trigger warnings, we had "self care" which is basically placing the responsibility for taking emotional care of oneself on the individual, where it should be. I read somewhere that most people go for degrees in Psychology because they're mentally hosed up in some way and want to fix themselves This is not something that works
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the u of chicago is a real no joke school. thats why they dont tolerate that foolishness
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trump wants to build a wall around america and deport all the scary brown people and create the world's biggest safe space
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pentyne posted:Let's take a look at D&D's opinion on the subject d&d is everything I hate about my own political affiliation all in one convenient place in case I ever need to remind myself of what the crazy shitheads on my side of the aisle are like
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proof of concept posted:d&d is everything I hate about my own political affiliation all in one convenient place in case I ever need to remind myself of what the crazy shitheads on my side of the aisle are like
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pussies post in D7D wow woah
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most sjw's these days are very very rich. Tl;dr - A Futile Letter
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