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hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Yeah pretty crazy for the NBA to jump into this as well, we have some football/soccer teams over here that have esports teams for Fifa, but no league involvement.

But there's a lot of big name retired basketball players into esports stuff afaik, so I guess it makes sense for the sport as a whole to dive in.

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CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
I think it's a dumb idea pushed by old people who don't understand the appeal but I'm also kind of an old grumpster in general so who knows.

The appeal of esports to me at least is that it's different than real sports. Just adapting one to a virtual version and going HEYO ESPORT isn't interesting to me. What's the point?

I mean it's a low skill ceiling game too. I'm sure I'd get wrecked by pros but the appeal of high level completive games is seeing cool crazy poo poo. Obviously they'd be working as a serious team but when a highlight play is you running around and pressing the x button that's not really great.

CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 5, 2017

Mandrel
Sep 24, 2006

It's also an incredibly broken game, bringing money and actual stakes into the equation seems like a recipe for a complete shitshow

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Mandrel posted:

It's also an incredibly broken game, bringing money and actual stakes into the equation seems like a recipe for a complete shitshow

Yeah no offense to the 2k guy posting in here but I don't really trust 2k to pull it off. Keep in mind I'm a PC player so...

That being said with a lot of money riding on it maybe it'll force them to do things like upgrade the servers so they don't go to poo poo every time there's an event and serious work is put into character builds to discourage the worst abuses of the system. More support for ProAM, the best game mode, is good.

Also the ~rumour~ has it that MyPark is going to be gone in 2k18, although I don't really believe it.

Dreylad fucked around with this message at 19:50 on May 5, 2017

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
Y'all if you have a parent who is into basketball please sim through a season with them calling the shots in MyLeague. My mom just came over and had me build the blazers around a starting lineup of Tim Frazier, Pat Connaughton, Moe Harkless, Noah Vonleh, and Jusuf Nurkic.

Robin Lopez and Serge Ibaka were coming off the bench.

They finished the season 13-69. Once free agency hit we signed P Conn to a 5 year 50 mil contract. It was all real funny.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Whoa it's a 2k thread

Anyone else totally abandon online play this year? I was trying to do some walk on pro am but it is almost always some giant pulling down 25 boards and shooting 100%, or a guy on my team who has broken their pass button and can only shoot

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
One thing I'd love to see that will never happen is being able to upload rosters to a 2k website so players could access rosters made on different platforms. I miss how many rosters and draft classes were made by fans for the 360 version. Really excited for 2k18 Switch.

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
I know they're not made by the same companies, but EA coming out and saying the Switch versions of their sports games won't have the same story mode as Xbox/PS4 has me worried.

If the switch version is feature-identical to the others, that's what I'm going with. I can live without 4K graphics if it means myleague from bed.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

You could always get a vita...

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
when does the 2k18 hype cycle begin? I just want to find out if the game engine for the switch will be the same

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Metapod posted:

when does the 2k18 hype cycle begin? I just want to find out if the game engine for the switch will be the same

For obvious reasons (I like having a job), I cant comment on stuff related to 2K18 other than I'm insanely excited about it



No clue when the marketing cycle will really kick off :iiam:

AggressivelyStupid
Jan 9, 2012

The Glumslinger posted:

For obvious reasons (I like having a job), I cant comment on stuff related to 2K18 other than I'm insanely excited about it



No clue when the marketing cycle will really kick off :iiam:

Tell them to add in the Melo Jr AI nuggets thanks in advance!!!

Also make the play together with friends mode not bad it's the best mode :smith:

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

The Glumslinger posted:

For obvious reasons (I like having a job), I cant comment on stuff related to 2K18 other than I'm insanely excited about it



No clue when the marketing cycle will really kick off :iiam:

Yeah I figured you can't comment on the game that's why I was hoping you knew when the marketing campaign began. Oh well the nba off-season will keep me occupied

ragle
Nov 1, 2009
What does it mean in trade finder when the CPU places two different protections on what appears to be the same pick?


This is a glitch, yeah? Yet it's been in the game for months if not years

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Tt8dHE1TM

Looks interesting. I'd like some actual dunk defense for once.

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
I'm super reluctant to get my hopes up for a Live game

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion


I think it means the Warriors have a first rounder from another team. Not sure since I don't think I've ever taken those deals. (unprotected or bust)

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Oh, hey, there is a thread for this.

Is the game worth it if I haven't played the franchise in a couple of years and I'm mostly interested in offline and MyCareer stuff?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
I only play mycateer for like 6 years so yes.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Fat Samurai posted:

Oh, hey, there is a thread for this.

Is the game worth it if I haven't played the franchise in a couple of years and I'm mostly interested in offline and MyCareer stuff?

Yes. All I play in this series is exhibition games with friends on the couch or myGM/myLeague mode. There is enough gameplay for just offline modes where you probably won't get bored.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Thanks!

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Online play is terrible anyways

If it's not the trademark laggy servers it's the casual crowd who plays this game like it's NBA jam (to great success)

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

RBX posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Tt8dHE1TM

Looks interesting. I'd like some actual dunk defense for once.

the ratio between player and court looks absolutely perfect

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.
I hope 2k18 has the "start the season at the end of last season" option again because at this point the rosters are completely different.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
NBA Live is supposed to have a demo out in August.

2K seems pretty terrible at marketing their basketball game (maybe because they don't really have to?) and only starts putting out info a few weeks before release -- at least it seems like it's been that way for the last two games.

I've finally given up on the absolutely dire PC version and am switching over to PS4 if Live doesn't offer a decent alternative (it probably wont).

I will say that I do like the archetype system that Live and 2k are both going for, and I imagine 2k18 is going to have a more refined version of what we got in 2k17. But they really need a split between online and MyCareer characters -- grinding for points and stats in the gym to play online is insanely dumb.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
I hate 2k's archtype for players. I hate how loving multiplayer balancing torches my ability to be an athletic point guard who can shoot too.

I don't give a flying gently caress about multiplayer. Let me play a wing who can both dunk and maybe make an outside shot. Let me be a super star like player.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
I wonder what the turnaround is for programming in the new NBA rules

Also remove stepback open jumpers

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Tae posted:

I wonder what the turnaround is for programming in the new NBA rules

Heh, I asked the franchise guys the same question yesterday

I believe the answer was "grumble, grumble"

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Dexo posted:

I hate 2k's archtype for players. I hate how loving multiplayer balancing torches my ability to be an athletic point guard who can shoot too.

I don't give a flying gently caress about multiplayer. Let me play a wing who can both dunk and maybe make an outside shot. Let me be a super star like player.

For sure, split multiplayer and singleplayer into two different character sets.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Tae posted:

I wonder what the turnaround is for programming in the new NBA rules

Well if they don't do some work on the CPU timeout logic both teams will be down to one timeout at the start of the 4th

Camping.. Intense!
May 18, 2005

Absolutely
Grimey Drawer
Archetypes are the worst in 2K, oh you want to be good at blocking and rebounding? Tough poo poo.. As a paint protector you get a pick pocket badge? And as nice as the whole gym aspect is grinding out those stats isnt fun especially when you realise that your paint protector isnt a great rebounder and you have to start again.

I started playing again just recently because i am hyped about the new season coming up but haviing to wait for my player still to walk out of the gym every time, and waiting for the coach to repeat the same poo poo that has no relevance every time-out while im furiously mashing the buttons to get back to the game was frustrating as hell.

All this being said i have already pre-ordered 2K18 because I just hope they have listened to the communitys gripes. Although i am pretty keen on seeing how NBA Live fares, if it ever gets released.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Camping.. Intense! posted:

Archetypes are the worst in 2K, oh you want to be good at blocking and rebounding? Tough poo poo.. As a paint protector you get a pick pocket badge? And as nice as the whole gym aspect is grinding out those stats isnt fun especially when you realise that your paint protector isnt a great rebounder and you have to start again.

I started playing again just recently because i am hyped about the new season coming up but haviing to wait for my player still to walk out of the gym every time, and waiting for the coach to repeat the same poo poo that has no relevance every time-out while im furiously mashing the buttons to get back to the game was frustrating as hell.

All this being said i have already pre-ordered 2K18 because I just hope they have listened to the communitys gripes. Although i am pretty keen on seeing how NBA Live fares, if it ever gets released.

Cancel it.

NBA Live 18 looks like it might be legit good

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Dexo posted:


NBA Live 18 looks like it might be legit good

Is it that time of year already? The demo will be out soon to disprove that

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

The Duggler posted:

Is it that time of year already? The demo will be out soon to disprove that

Maybe, but no other version of Live actually looked decent when being played the past like 4-5 years.

This one looks like the gameplay might be there.

Not saying it's gonna happen.

but I'm not gonna pre order 2k this year until I know for sure.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
I will still be there day 1 because why not, unless they finally revoke my free pass.

There will be extensive testing on whether they finally stop making Rubio a 3-point threat.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN
I think i need a few years of Live being good before i actually buy

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
itd be really cool if 2k just stripped the bullshit from its mycareer mode and let you just play basketball and do simshit out of a menu and played cutscenes when appropriate instead of these loving pointless animations

it takes like five minutes to get through 1/3 of a day where you are doing nothing when your character has to spend time entering a pointless room, putting a bag down, picking up the bag, leaving the room, loading the gym, waiting for justice to ask you to do whatever, running to the minigame that takes 10s, waiting for the minigame to start, doing the minigame, watching a bar load up, leave the gym

none of that poo poo is loving fun!! why the gently caress is any of it in the game!?

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
like fine you need archetypes and whatever because you're employing league of legends esports balancing but there's no loving point in any of this except to waste players time

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
That is the most amazing thing about the MLB the show.

Like you can just play through an entire series without having to deal with a ton of loads. You can upgrade in between games but other than that it's just playing the game and then you go back every 2-4 games.

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Camping.. Intense!
May 18, 2005

Absolutely
Grimey Drawer

Dexo posted:

That is the most amazing thing about the MLB the show.

Like you can just play through an entire series without having to deal with a ton of loads. You can upgrade in between games but other than that it's just playing the game and then you go back every 2-4 games.

Agreed! I dont know anything about Baseball but i have been picking up the Show each year waiting for the NBA to start and can get through a season so quickly that i actually have time to do other things, like socialise and play other games and go to work.

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