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call to action posted:It's pretty cool how so many posters here want our cities to resemble Delhi, with a rich urban core surrounded by landless peasantry that cleans out sewer clogs for tips.  At least the Indian government pretends to pay lip service to things like a functioning and affordable public transportation system and universal healthcare. Call me when either of those two things are politically feasible in the United States.
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call to action posted:Actually, America mostly has functional public transit in any of its cities that approach the population density of major Indian cities. They also don't have universal healthcare, not sure where you got that from. I'm not sure where you get that I want to take the homes of landless peasants in either country. India's rural poor are migrating from the same, dead-end places that America's rural poor live in. Far from jobs, far from the centers of power, far from all the domestic pork and the FDI dollars that foreign governments are raining down on places like Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata and Chennai. We can sit here and sneer at Delhi as if it's some backwards shithole America has nothing to learn from, but I'm not so certain that's either productive, or necessarily true. India's undergoing a massive wave of urbanization and if we're going to believe the world bank on this, so will the USA. Tent cities and people living out of RV's are already things that exist and happen in the USA, if Dharavi 2.0 in the bay area or north jersey is something we want to avoid (it drat well should be) let's look at how to make the inevitable urbanization manageable so that people who have to leave home and hearth in search of a job worth having can at least live in basic human decency and not poo poo in a river or squatting on a wal-mart parking lot in a chrysler minivan. Discussions about how to preserve or revive these places are useful and worth having, but they don't look like they're all that useful on timeframes that matter to the people that live there. By the the time the wealth trickles down to rural India/America, we may be talking about whole generations who have essentially missed out by not moving to where the jobs and money were. And before we can help all the places decaying today in the US get back to the golden years that the residents pine for, most of those that remember those days will be dead, and the generations that follow them will have languished in poverty, without access to jobs, opportunities and services. Unless those that live there are willing to sit and suffer and wait for better days in place, they're almost certainly going to move somewhere.
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Typo posted:otoh isn't india's version of the house so packed with delegates nothing ever passes 245 in the Rajya Sabha for 100 senators. For having a billion+ people the size of it doesn't seem out of control. You may also be thinking of India's judicial system which is notably glacial and incredibly opaque.
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Cicero posted:Historical accident that's now too entrenched to change.
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