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Who will win the league this year This poll is closed.
Celtic	9	18.75%
Aberdeen	7	14.58%
Hearts	2	4.17%
The Rangers	5	10.42%
Hibs are shite	25	52.08%
Total:	48 votes

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jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Goals
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Waghorn super skill
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 15:58

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 17:17

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Total Meatlove posted:

Rangers sold Billy Gilmour for �500k and add-ons. 16 years old. Madness

Heard that Clint Hill is offski as well

# ¿ May 9, 2017 20:14

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Coohoolin posted:

And Aberdeen are signing Shaun Maloney and some striker from LA Galaxy, apparently. Silly season!

Aberdeen are shite

# ¿ May 13, 2017 14:42

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Look away now if you're Hand knit

1-0
https://streamable.com/h7dle

2-0
https://streamable.com/3o8ld

3-0
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/865288283865194497/pu/pl/NKkzOkSPerCJnSKz.m3u8

jre fucked around with this message at 20:43 on May 18, 2017

# ¿ May 18, 2017 20:38

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pik_d posted:

If Roberts isn't part of City's squad next season just loving lol. Unless he's sold for £30m.

He's shite op. Man City should get rid of him :pray:

# ¿ May 18, 2017 21:56

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Gigi Galli posted:

Wow that's crazy. Given the huge gap in finances I thought it would happen a lot more often.

There's been remarkably few trebles as well, ( Hopefully one more this season). I think the main reason is that competing in 4 competitions wears down the players, and it's incredibly difficult not to have a stumble in December away to Inverness or Aberdeen when they've been playing twice a week for 4 months. Even this season we had to come from behind in a few away games , 1-0 down to St Johnstone, 2-0 down to Motherwell.

Hand Knit posted:

Better than this week.

gently caress 6-0 :stare:

# ¿ May 21, 2017 20:52

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Video of tifo
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The other tifo today :pwn:

jre fucked around with this message at 23:40 on May 21, 2017

# ¿ May 21, 2017 23:34

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Jesus that was tense yesterday. Aberdeen's fitness seems to be poor they were done in the last 20 minutes yesterday.

Hayes 1-0 https://streamable.com/z2ix2
Armstrong 1-1 https://streamable.com/n4wyq
Rogic 2-1 https://streamable.com/970h3

# ¿ May 28, 2017 11:24

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

16 things we learned from the Craig Whyte fraud trial

#1. Craigy did nothing wrong

# ¿ Jun 6, 2017 20:35

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Celtic to play Linfield in Belfast on the 12th of July in Champions league qualifier. Thanks UEFA. :suicide:

# ¿ Jun 19, 2017 19:38

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Sevco missed the deadline for registering a kit, so will play in last years strip. :laffo:

https://twitter.com/RangersFC/status/877592529209769985

jre fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jun 22, 2017

# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 19:47

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# ¿ Jul 4, 2017 23:00

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Thrifting Day! posted:

I'm sure Bert would have definitely signed for Rangers for half the wages.

We should have a whip round for him after his bankruptcy from the tax proceedings against him and the other 47 players.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 20:36

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FullLeatherJacket posted:

I mean, I don't actually care where old scottish trophies end up, but sometimes it's nice to go to the zoo.

That said, the problem you're going to have here is that from a technical perspective, Rangers haven't broken the law, they've just underpaid tax. If the club in question was Manchester City, they'd just cut a cheque for �30m or so in the lobby and then be done with the whole thing. Still cheaper than loving Mangala. It's not that unusual for a major company to have tax disputes with HMRC and to come to some settlement later. HMRC haven't been chasing this so that they can lock up the people involved, they've been chasing it because it sets a precedent for similar schemes elsewhere.

Of course, in the fact that Old Rangers immediately collapsed like a hot air balloon full of farts and bigotry as soon as it was challenged pretty much implies that they gained a major on-field advantage from doing it, but unless the SFA has a rule on the books that says "thou shalt not run up clownish and unpayable debt while chasing the dream of being able to beat teams from countries that exist in my dad's Atlas", you've got nothing really to charge them with.

From a technical perspective Rangers played 48 ineligible players in these games because they submitted fake contracts to the SFA as part of defrauding the tax man.

The SFA punishment for Spartans failing to date one page of a contract for a player was to throw them out the Scottish cup and fine them �4,000.
Rangers submitting 48 fake contracts was totally fine though apparently

Nobody wants the vacated titles, but they should 100% be stripped.

# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 20:42

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

FullLeatherJacket posted:

I can't see that you can make an argument around fraudulent contracts, unless Rangers specifically engineered the contracts to be fraudulent.

They did, they submitted fake ones that had made up salary amounts and differed from the one's actually given to players and their agents

quote:

In which case, that was the case the first time the SFA investigated, the contracts were always fraudulent and the Supreme Court ruling doesn't make a difference to that.

So Cambel Olgalvie who was company secretary of Rangers and who personally wrote the bullshit contracts in question left the club and became the head of the SFA,
He was in the position of setting up the investigation into what he did while at Rangers. He decided the correct thing to do was hire an impartial third party , and chose the only suitable man for the job, David Murray's next door neighbour Lord Nimmo Smith

Nimo Smith ruled that because at the time of the inquiry the tax dodge had been ruled legal ( subject to appeal by HMRC ) there was "no sporting advantage".
The dodge has now exhausted all appears, isn't legal so people think it should be re-evaluated because the premise of the original inquiry doesn't hold any more

# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 21:58

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Thrifting Day! posted:

Everyone has conveniently forgotten Celtic also used EBT's. They just didn't win anything of note during that times so nobody is arsed.

They used an EBT once for Juninho, they didn't fake his contract and they unwound it and paid the tax due when it became obvious EBS weren't valid

Nice attempt at deflection though

# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 22:40

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 17:17

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Thrifting Day! posted:

Yes. I'm sure he'll be making regular monthly payments, from his home out with the uk tax system, you mongo.

I'm sure he will https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/tax-cooperation-control/tax-recovery_en

# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 22:48

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