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I could care less about Kapernick but going from pariah to hero for protesting the flag of all things is pretty funny.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Man Tony taking a lot of heat bc of some jackass running on the track during a goddamn race Yeah its not like Tony Stewart had a long history of endangering other drivers with sudden aggression on the track or anything *looks at wiki* Oh... oh no...
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cravius posted:I could care less about Kapernick ok guy
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NC-17 posted:The Pledge of Allegiance is a really creepy thing when you think about the words On that note La Marseillaise is super 
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Voodoo posted:And yet through all this, Kap still has a chance at being the Week 1 starter. The CFL already started
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Hmmmmmm. I blame millennials. Thanks for reading
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah its not like Tony Stewart had a long history of endangering other drivers with sudden aggression on the track or anything Yeah it's entirely the fault of the other guy tho man you don't get out of a loving race car and charge him on the track
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Yeah it's entirely the fault of the other guy tho man you don't get out of a loving race car and charge him on the track
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Yeah it's entirely the fault of the other guy tho man you don't get out of a loving race car and charge him on the track Oh I know Its kind of funny that Tony Stewart did that at least three times though He climbed into a guys window on a caution flag once even
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I don't think anyone's said that Kapernick shouldn't be allowed to protest. They just think his opinion is dumb and wrong.Mel Mudkiper posted:yeah but they are dumb and wrong so who cares Oh lol I guess that's you guys too.
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tony stewart is bad. or good i dont remember. can someone tell me their opinion of joe paterno now please
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:tony stewart is bad. or good i dont remember. can someone tell me their opinion of joe paterno now please 409* *-raped children cravius posted:Oh lol I guess that's you guys too. no we are right and cool
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My uncle keeps screaming all over facebook that Kap should be "deported", which is funny because he got exiled from Cuba for speaking out against Castro.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:*-raped children I think the chick Kaep raped was actually over 18
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cravius posted:I could care less about Kapernick but going from pariah to hero for protesting the flag of all things is pretty funny. Kapernick has always been cool, though.
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Why is Kaep protesting symbols of the federal government -- the flag and anthem -- when the text of his interview focused on abuses by state and local officials (police)? The federal government is his biggest ally in this cause. It's the DOJ that leads investigations into civil rights abuses by local agencies (pattern-or-practice, https://www.justice.gov/crt/conduct-law-enforcement-agencies ). It's the federal government that honors MLK through law and flag practice ( http://www.legion.org/flag/code ). It's the federal government that has advanced equality in the last 50 years through Supreme Court decisions, executive action, and legislation. To many people, it really does matter that the flag is a federal symbol ( http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/08/29/steeler-on-kaepernick-sitting-during-natl-anthem-minorities-are-fighting-for-the-flag/ ). It's state and local governments, rather, that have been the problem during Kaep's lifetime ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw ). By protesting the flag and anthem, he puts himself in the same camp as the confederate flag / 'War of Northern Aggression' crew: broadly-ranging anger against the federal government. I support the right of both to their freedom of expression: lovely thing, our Constitution. Kaep, myself, and most right thinking people agree that systemic police racism and brutality is horrible. Protesting the feds, Pizza Hut, baseball, tiny dogs in purses, or any number of random things is not a sensible or useful way of bringing about change. It's poor symbolism, and he would be well-served to redirect his protest.
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cravius posted:I could care less about Kapernick but going from pariah to hero for protesting the flag of all things is pretty funny. Protest the flag every day. Piss on it preferably.
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pmchem posted:Why is Kaep protesting symbols of the federal government -- the flag and anthem -- when the text of his interview focused on abuses by state and local officials (police)? Well, protest is about pushing your allies as much as it is about challenging your enemies. Should MLK have held off on the "I Have a Dream" speech because Kennedy was president?
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cravius posted:I don't think anyone's said that Kapernick shouldn't be allowed to protest. They just think his opinion is dumb and wrong. You should search for Kaepernick on Twitter. The majority of anti-Kaep sentiment is usually something like: "gently caress you [racial slur]!" "You hate this country so much then get out!" "I hope you get injured this year!"
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pmchem posted:Why is Kaep protesting symbols of the federal government -- the flag and anthem -- when the text of his interview focused on abuses by state and local officials (police)? This is the hardest reach I've ever seen for a "well, actually" Also: "I have followed it and I think it's personally not a good thing. I think it's a terrible thing, and you know, maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try, it's not gonna happen," Trump told The Dori Monson Show on Monday. Make America Great Again (But Not in the Way You Want)
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this seem like a good thread to think of every colin youve heard of and say them to eachother. colin quinn. colin farrell. colin mochrie. uh. colin cowherd, colin hanks. and dont forget colin jones from football, the sport.
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Cruel and Unusual posted:Well, protest is about pushing your allies as much as it is about challenging your enemies. Should MLK have held off on the "I Have a Dream" speech because Kennedy was president? Yes, also on not killing himself. --J.E. Hoover
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CharlestheHammer posted:Protest the flag every day. Piss on it preferably. I'm literally shaking right now
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Cavauro posted:this seem like a good thread to think of every colin youve heard of and say them to eachother. colin quinn. colin farrell. colin mochrie. uh. colin cowherd, colin hanks. and dont forget colin jones from football, the sport. Phil Collins
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Cruel and Unusual posted:Well, protest is about pushing your allies as much as it is about challenging your enemies. Should MLK have held off on the "I Have a Dream" speech because Kennedy was president? I only wish the dialogue was at that level. I love MLK's speeches, about 12 years ago I bought a set of them on CD and have often listened to them on MLK day. Check out the text: http://www.drmartinlutherkingjr.com/ihaveadream.htm He often mentions individual repressive locales. "Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair." His wonderful philosophy of non-violent direct action had specific tests to be met that are largely forgotten by some protesters today: http://www.thekingcenter.org/archive/document/address-mlk-american-jewish-committee (see pages 4/5) Even as a young college student ( http://www.drmartinlutherkingjr.com/thepurposeofeducation.htm ), MLK valued clear thought and specific facts more than general broad-ranging propaganda: "To save man from the morass of propaganda, in my opinion, is one of the chief aims of education. Education must enable one to sift and weigh evidence, to discern the true from the false, the real from the unreal, and the facts from the fiction." Kaep didn't mention anything about his allies in federal government in his interview. He broadly associated police with an oppressive government, which he is protesting.
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I work with police for a living and I feel oppressed Please advise
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Ehud posted:I work with police for a living and I feel oppressed lift more
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Ehud posted:I work with police for a living and I feel oppressed shoot parmesan basil, to death,
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^^^^^^^Excuse me sir Setting fire to the flag is completely Just and a legal form of free speech and free expression. So is spitting, urinating, defecating, and vomiting on the flag. In fact, I'm doing it now.
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what are tge odds parmesan basil searches for his name in the foursm
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Scionix posted:what are tge odds parmesan basil searches for his name in the foursm Why don't you PM me and find out punk
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pmchem posted:I only wish the dialogue was at that level. I love MLK's speeches, about 12 years ago I bought a set of them on CD and have often listened to them on MLK day. Check out the text: MLK pointed out specific examples of injustice. He did not spend his time listing all the good things the government did, for balance. Neither did Thomas Jefferson include another section in the Declaration of Independence listing all the good things the British had done for the colonies. Nuance is a good thing, but not during a political campaign.
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Parmesan Basil posted:Why don't you PM me and find out punk Nice meltdown
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Metapod posted:Nice meltdown *rolls up sleeves* I'm in a fighting mood today! Let's go! I'll roughneck all of you!
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whjats happening
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Scionix posted:whjats happening You were owned now please leave this once good thread so we can make it good again.
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