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Chilichimp posted:My guess would be he A.) believes it cannot be changed and has taken on a philosophy of disengagement. B.) He's a literal Marxist who believes violent revolution is our only savior. C.) The Democratic candidate for the Presidency was so clearly poo poo that the dude was simply part of millions of other people who could not be fear mongered into going and voting for her. It's p cool though, I mean, knowing that my simply voting makes me more special than a fella who used his stage to make a statement that got massive attention towards a particularly troubling societal problem. Along with the money and time he's now devoting towards actual activism. It feels good being even more awesome than that, simply for casting a ballot in a state that might as well have wiped it's rear end with my opinion on where it's electoral ballots should have gone.
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The337th posted:C.) The Democratic candidate for the Presidency was so clearly poo poo that the dude was simply part of millions of other people who could not be fear mongered into going and voting for her. Or the death penalty. Or parole for non violent offenders. Or recreational pot. Or medical spending. Or prescription drugs. Or bilingual programs in schools. Or school bonds. Or taxes. Or congressional representatives. Or local representatives. Or other local issues. So yes, he's made his voice heard, effectively and courageously, on an important topic. I applaud him and support him for that. And I simultaneously think he's foolish for ignoring the most simple and necessary (though perhaps not sufficient) way to effect change on every topic at hand.
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Seriously why are people refusing to understand you vote for more than just president
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Nov 16, 2016 14:14
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Because civics education in America sucks dick
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The337th posted:C.) The Democratic candidate for the Presidency was so clearly poo poo that the dude was simply part of millions of other people who could not be fear mongered into going and voting for her. We've now learned he's never registered to vote, ever. so your premise is bunk. I mean, he's a young dude, so he probably just never got around to it... being that he's been completely focused on football since he was pretty much 9.
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Nov 16, 2016 14:23
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Are you guys really just hearing the argument and premise that the oppressor will never allow the oppressed to vote away their oppression
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Nov 16, 2016 15:13
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I've heard it but haven't given up completely on Democracy yet, so it's not an appealing argument. I'm getting there, though, get back to me after the midterms.
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Nov 16, 2016 15:37
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Amy Pole Her posted:Seriously why are people refusing to understand you vote for more than just president Yep. It's Colin outright refusing to vote for his entire life then telling us things need to change. There's way more on the ticket than stodgy old people. Ballot measures, etc, can do more for a community than whichever old person runs the country. Hence the goddammit Colin.
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Nov 16, 2016 15:51
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he hasn't voted once IN HIS WHOLE LIFE? fuuuuck, ahhhh god drat it. piece of poo poo!
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Gynecolojustice posted:he hasn't voted once IN HIS WHOLE LIFE? fuuuuck, ahhhh god drat it. piece of poo poo!
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Nov 16, 2016 16:14
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For real, if he's spreading the message to young, underprivileged youth that voting is stupid and they shouldn't bother (and they're gonna listen, because a famous NFL QB is telling them that: the coolest person they'll probably ever meet), then he's doing some loving harm while he's trying to do good.
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Nov 16, 2016 16:48
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Oh god haha
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"When has voting ever helped? Who am I supposed to vote for? The Democrat who is going to blast me in the rear end? Or the Republican who's blasting my rear end?” - Colin Rand Kaepernick
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Nov 16, 2016 17:23
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Hillary would be a much better president than Trump. Let's not surrender to the blanket cynics on that.
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-would be slightly better than a white nationalist, and you'd be rubber stamping that as the only bar the Democrat candidate needs to clear, yeah. But this does cause a problem of, "Okay, you kneel to protest the flag, but the point of a protest is to prompt change, and what would change your mind and make you stand again," which has always been a bit of a hole for Kap's logic. He's never really outlined any demands, and then by throwing away his vote, he's crossing out one more avenue of change. The question now is, "Kap, what do you want?" And the only way laws get passed in this country (not proposed and all that, but passed) is through voting. I very specifically showed up to the polls to vote down ticket. It's important.
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How can anyone possibly say "slightly better"? Have you forgotten how bad things can get? All the horrible things that Trump has promised? Did you read the Democratic platform? Do people not understand that the Democrats become more liberal when they win and more conservative when they lose? I will stop contributing to the derail with this post.
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Nov 16, 2016 18:09
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yeah kaepernick, why didn't you vote hillary so we could blame all our problems on the russians and start world war 3?
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incompetent posted:yeah kaepernick, why didn't you vote hillary so we could blame all our problems on the russians and start world war 3? Excellent name/post combo.
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Nov 16, 2016 19:15
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Chilichimp posted:Excellent name/post combo. nice burn, did you take 15 minutes to come up with it?
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incompetent posted:nice burn, did you take 15 minutes to come up with it? Except post/name combo
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Nov 16, 2016 19:29
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By refusing to vote because the system is bad, then saying things need to change, isn't Kaep in some way calling for revolution? Chepernick
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v2vian man posted:Are you guys really just hearing the argument and premise that the oppressor will never allow the oppressed to vote away their oppression So full on revolt then?
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Shangri-Law School posted:How can anyone possibly say "slightly better"? Have you forgotten how bad things can get? All the horrible things that Trump has promised? Did you read the Democratic platform? It probably shouldn't , but it absolutely amazes me how quickly people forgot the Bush years. Republicans did a masterful job blurring recent history.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:00
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Febreeze posted:Chepernick Nice.
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Febreeze posted:
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Nov 16, 2016 21:48
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Can you make a reversible Chepernick/Kaeptain America shirt so I can order a dozen and wear literally only those forever
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Nov 16, 2016 22:07
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Febreeze posted:By refusing to vote because the system is bad, then saying things need to change, isn't Kaep in some way calling for revolution? This owns.
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Febreeze posted:By refusing to vote because the system is bad, then saying things need to change, isn't Kaep in some way calling for revolution? (just don't tell anyone that che hated black people)
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Nov 16, 2016 22:23
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incompetent posted:(just don't tell anyone that che hated black people) So did Gandhi, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln; what is your point?
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Chichevache posted:So did Gandhi, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln; what is your point? There are people who are anti-racist that wear shirts of a man who was racist.
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Nov 16, 2016 22:32
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incompetent posted:There are people who are anti-racist that wear shirts of a man who was racist. I'm not a homophobe, but I love Peter Steele and sing along to Type O Negative all the time. Also I love intellectual books that are mentally taxing, but I sometimes read Incompetent's posts. 
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Nov 16, 2016 22:36
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PRINT THE SHIRTS!!!
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incompetent posted:There are people who are anti-racist that wear shirts of a man who was racist. People would wear a Lincoln shirt if his face wasn't so ugly.
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Chichevache posted:I'm not a homophobe, but I love Peter Steele and sing along to Type O Negative all the time. A person's opinion on a large group of certain people isn't just some minor thing you can ignore.
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Nov 16, 2016 23:00
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I too hate most white people before the 1980s.
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John Brown was cool the sword-swinging abolitionist, not the Cardinals WR
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incompetent posted:A person's opinion on a large group of certain people isn't just some minor thing you can ignore. of course it is
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incompetent posted:A person's opinion on a large group of certain people isn't just some minor thing you can ignore. Much like your lovely, lovely posting.
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