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LemonDrizzle posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssgWz8XdrIM  Seriously that dude is easily ten years too old to be dressed like that (and ten years too young for that sort of "checkmate LIBERALS" political thinking)
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The river is very unpleasant goddamnedtwisto posted:Seriously that dude is easily ten years too old to be dressed like that (and ten years too young for that sort of "checkmate LIBERALS" political thinking)
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Sep 30, 2016 20:25
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goddamnedtwisto posted:
Maybe it's just one of those days where you don't want to wake up, everything is hosed, everybody sucks?
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Sep 30, 2016 20:27
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Guavanaut posted:And like the Roman, you can see it foaming with much blood. Nah it's just got low banks and has a big kink in it, which means that it's guaranteed that every time the wind blows you'll get big waves building up.
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Sep 30, 2016 20:32
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Lincolnshire is good, it's the birthplace of namtab
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Sep 30, 2016 20:49
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Boston had a good chippy I guess, also home to one end of the boston marathon
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Sep 30, 2016 20:51
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When he says the left are intolerant he means they made fun of his Fountainhead inspired MLP slashfic.
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Sep 30, 2016 20:54
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Guavanaut posted:Or add a ton of unnecessary vowels to words. Like queue. Q.
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Gonzo McFee posted:When he says the left are intolerant he means they made fun of his Fountainhead inspired MLP slashfic.
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Sep 30, 2016 21:00
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/30/its-blackmail-really-nissan-employees-on-the-brexit-compensation-demand So Nissan (the biggest employer in Sunderland, which voted heavily for Brexit) is now saying they won't build any new models in Sunderland unless the government compensates them for any tariffs they have to pay after Brexit. The Guardian sent some people to talk to Nissan workers and they're strikingly delusional. Yeah guys, this Tory government is totally going to nationalise the Nissan plant if they leave. They wouldn't just let heavy industry go to the wall, would they? That's why they stepped in to save the mines and the shipyards last time they were in power  But hey it's all Project Fear, right? Britane Stronk, royal yacht, Are Kate 
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Sep 30, 2016 21:59
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tooterfish posted:Not only did the useless oval office lose every game he was put into, he's the only person to have ever lost this one, ever. Shame he didn't get locked in.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:00
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How would that even work, if you nationalize the plant you still can't make nissan cars at it, nationalization doesn't work for things that are entirely connected to brands.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:05
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OwlFancier posted:How would that even work, if you nationalize the plant you still can't make nissan cars at it, nationalization doesn't work for things that are entirely connected to brands. Or wildly successful marques like Austin.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:10
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Strong British Cars which are wanted by everyone on the continent... European customers boycotting British cars after Brexit vote Well gently caress.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:13
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Zephro posted:https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/30/its-blackmail-really-nissan-employees-on-the-brexit-compensation-demand i want to feel sorry for them but theyve probably hosed the rest of us too so eh
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Sep 30, 2016 22:14
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OwlFancier posted:How would that even work, if you nationalize the plant you still can't make nissan cars at it, nationalization doesn't work for things that are entirely connected to brands. What? Yes you can. All the equipment would still be there. All the employees would still be there too. Exactly what would prevent them making the same cars as always?
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Sep 30, 2016 22:16
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the equipment wouldnt be there if they packed it all off to europe
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Sep 30, 2016 22:17
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XMNN posted:the equipment wouldnt be there if they packed it all off to europe Which from the article it sounds like they can do rather easily
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Sep 30, 2016 22:19
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I think we've moved past delusional into outright bargaining. The government will save them. Right?????? The same government they were "sticking it to" when they voted leave. That was the extent of their fury. They're back cowering and hoping for the best. Which is why I think the "consequences" of ignoring brexit are overblown. The peoples revolution was based on ignorance and has already dissipated into a fog of falling-pounds and economic uncertainty. The press flips between three positions of "we're all doomed" "everything is hosed but britain strong" and "it's fine". Any "leaver" that thinks their side "won" isn't paying attention to the outright chaos.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:20
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HorseLord posted:What? Yes you can. All the equipment would still be there. All the employees would still be there too. Exactly what would prevent them making the same cars as always? I'm pretty sure nissan might object. I'm pretty sure car designs are copyrighted. It would be like making off-brand chinese knock offs. Nobody would buy them.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:22
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XMNN posted:the equipment wouldnt be there if they packed it all off to europe Except they couldn't do that, because in this scenario the government would have the factory, not Nissan? Is a japanese businessman going to sneak in round the back of a building seized by the government, climb in through the window, and put hundreds of industrial robots and conveyor belts in his pocket?
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Sep 30, 2016 22:23
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well yeah 90% of brexiters made their minds up on their gut fear of immigrants or brussels banana straightening machines or the turks or whatever, why would they start using their brains now
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Sep 30, 2016 22:23
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HorseLord posted:Except they couldn't do that, because in this scenario the government would have the factory, not Nissan? Is a japanese businessman going to sneak in round the back of a building seized by the government, climb in through the window, and put hundreds of industrial robots and conveyor belts in his pocket? I think by "nationalize" they mean "buy the plant and run it on state funding" not "send in the people's revolutionary army to seize the means of production" I don't think anyone believe the tories are quite that socialist.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:24
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OwlFancier posted:It would be like making off-brand chinese knock offs. Nobody would buy them. Plenty of people buy Chinese knockoffs though. Otherwise they wouldn't make them.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:24
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OwlFancier posted:I'm pretty sure nissan might object. I'm pretty sure car designs are copyrighted. Nissan: please stop making our cars. that's crime illegal in the UK The UK: lol Nissan: we just filed a lawsuit in your country The UK: *makes farting sound while throwing lawsuit in garbage*
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Sep 30, 2016 22:25
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HorseLord posted:Except they couldn't do that, because in this scenario the government would have the factory, not Nissan? Is a japanese businessman going to sneak in round the back of a building seized by the government, climb in through the window, and put hundreds of industrial robots and conveyor belts in his pocket?
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Sep 30, 2016 22:26
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HorseLord posted:Except they couldn't do that, because in this scenario the government would have the factory, not Nissan? Is a japanese businessman going to sneak in round the back of a building seized by the government, climb in through the window, and put hundreds of industrial robots and conveyor belts in his pocket? oh yeah, there is nothing physically stopping the government from seizing the factory and carrying on turning out identical cars with no interruptions* they just arent going to *well, assuming the parts are made here, too, which isnt guaranteed from what little i know about car production
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big scary monsters posted:Plenty of people buy Chinese knockoffs though. Otherwise they wouldn't make them. They buy them because they're cheap, because China makes them with massive economy of scale and really lovely labour conditions. I'm assuming the nissan plant workers aren't looking to work in sweatshop conditions, so you'd be making nissan cars without a license but still at nissan prices, while nissan still exists and is probably lobbying the hell out of the EU/USA to not import the cars we're making because we're doing it very illegally, or even on an individual dealership level where they refuse to work with any dealership who trades in the knock offs. I just don't see this being a very effective method of keeping the nissan plant economically viable, is what I'm saying.
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HorseLord posted:Except they couldn't do that, because in this scenario the government would have the factory, not Nissan? Is a japanese businessman going to sneak in round the back of a building seized by the government, climb in through the window, and put hundreds of industrial robots and conveyor belts in his pocket? I mean it's not like any of the parts are made elsewhere efb
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Guavanaut posted:I don't think the current government of the United Kingdom are going to go on a South American factory seizing spree. They'll probably help them pack in exchange for a few grand and the chance to molest a shiba inu. I'm not the one saying they'd nationalize it; I'm the one saying nissan couldn't say poo poo if they did.
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HorseLord posted:Nissan: please stop making our cars. that's crime illegal in the UK I'm sure the Prime Minister who blocked a report on rape of immigrants in Yarlwood because it might affect the security company's share price would be right behind that.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:29
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I mean it's not like any of the parts are made elsewhere
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Vengeance of Pandas posted:I'm sure the Prime Minister who blocked a report on rape of immigrants in Yarlwood because it might affect the security company's share price would be right behind that. HorseLord posted:I'm not the one saying they'd nationalize it; I'm the one saying nissan couldn't say poo poo if they did.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:30
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Like there's "the government will bail out our workplace and let us keep our jobs" and then there's "the government will immediately overthrow decades of international copyright agreement and seize private assets for the fun of it while simultaneously getting great trade agreeements having shown a complete disregard for the operation of modern international markets and the property laws they're founded on, also turning the country into a socialist rogue state. One of these seems wishful thinking, the other one seems like the set up for a tom clancy novel. I really don't think there's anyone thinking the former might happen.
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Britain’s most senior operational police officers have expressed concern over Brexit and said it will take years of “onerous” work if the UK is to retain the same level of cooperation with Europe that it needs to combat international organised crime, human trafficking and terrorism. Lynne Owens, director general of the National Crime Agency (NCA), Britain’s equivalent of the FBI, said that her European crime-fighting colleagues had been shocked by June’s Brexit vote, but were keen to continue cooperating. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-crime-nca-police-organised-crime-human-trafficking-terrorism-a7340296.html
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Sep 30, 2016 22:31
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OwlFancier posted:socialist rogue state
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I doubt the plant is entirely self-sufficient so all Nissan would have to do would be to cut off their giant multinational supply chain and strong-arm any suppliers that do business with any other major car firm
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Sep 30, 2016 22:36
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brexit seems to be predicated on the belief that everyone else is lying. the eu is lying when they say they aren't giving us free trade without freedom of movement, nissan is lying when it says it might move production, everyone is lying when they say brexit might be anything other than sunshine and roses
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Yeah except every single other company in the world would then refuse to ever invest anything at all in the UK ever, not to mention a total trade embargo. Now Juche sounds like a fun idea but I don't think we have enough tree bark to keep 60 million people fed.
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There's always berries on the bushes near where I live, why don't they forage for food? 
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