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Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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snuff posted:

Was just about to buy a OCZ Trion 150 480gb because it was cheap, saw this thread and went for the 20% more expensive 850 Evo 500gb. Thanks thread.

Mission accomplished.

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Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Bob Morales posted:

Consumer SSD's started to hit the market in what, 2008/2009?

Everyone kept saying "Seagate/WD/Hitachi" will jump in when they know the time is right...they have the logistics and connections and the supply chain...

But they never came in and wiped out the little guys. Or, are we still waiting?

Samsung and Intel are hardly 'little guys'.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Cromlech posted:

Hi guys! Recently bought a Samsung 850 EVO for a friend. It's been AGES since I've really hosed with SSDs, I have... An Intel 550 here at home, I believe? Haven't really kept up with the technology in awhile.

Is there anything I can do to help boost his efficiency and read/write speeds? Is there anything new that I should know? I feel overwhelmed by all the info, and he's a little paranoid installing a new firmware after hearing that the latest update allegedly bricks this model? Is that true?

Here's a snapshot of his CrystalDiskInfo screen. Thank you so much in advance!



Other than installing any required drivers (which I do not think is needed for Windows 8 and up), nope. Should just be magic.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Bob Morales posted:

Any good deals on M.2 drives right now? I see a 275gb mx300 but it's only $5-10 less than a 250gb Samsung evo

I actually have a 500gb Samsung 850 EVO M.2 drive in box that it turns out won't work in my motherboard alongside my Intel 750. PM me if interested.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Paul MaudDib posted:

Samsung has a reputation for reliability and some of the other brands have been known for issues in the past (of course the 840 Evo had a not-so-awesome glitch too).

Life is too short to deal with dead drives. Lets say I make $20/hr. My a dead drive is going to at least eat up 2h of 1. Seeing if the drive is dead, 2. Fretting over lost data 3. Removing drive 4. Sending back to Samsung 5. Installing new drive 6. Restoring from backups. Even at that rate, upgrading to an 850 is a no brainer. Any additional hassle or increase to my hourly rate just makes a more solid case.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Eletriarnation posted:

I agree that any amount of trouble is expensive, but I think the vast majority of devices of any brand (excepting maybe pre-acquisition OCZ) become obsolete and are replaced for that reason before failing. I've bought at least 10 SSDs over the past 5+ years from various manufacturers including Samsung, Sandisk, Intel, Kingston, Crucial, Silicon Power, and Transcend and not a single one has ever failed. Most have been midrange at best consumer models, and a few have been refurbished. I can accept that I'm lucky, but it's not like most cheap SSDs are ticking time bombs.

They are MORE a ticking time-bomb than the 850. How much more? Hard to say. For personal use, definitely worth the extra $$$. If I had to buy 10+ for some project, would start considering other options.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Seamonster posted:

Why isn't there a 2 TB 950 Evo?

$999 sell a shitton of 'em easy.

Just do what I did, get 2x850 1tb from some Black Friday sales, put in RAID-0, runs pretty fast.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Golluk posted:

On a whim, I checked Best Buy. They had the 850 EVO 500gb SataIII for 180 CAD. One Store nearby still had it. Just one left, hidden in with the unwanted 250GB size. I think I got the last sub 200$ one in Southern Ontario today.

A friend made do with an Adata blue series 500gb SSD. Are they as terrible as the OP makes them out to be?

I tried to go to CC for Black Friday two years ago to get some door crashers. Saw a lineup around the building in freezing rain. Turned car around and ordered everything I wanted online, and only paid $20 more to avoid probably 2-3 hours of misery. Never again.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Risket posted:

Anyway, I want to replace the Cheetahs with SSDs because I don't want to deal with this again. This system will be doing some heavy video editing, as well as high frame rate 4K playback over HDMI & SDI (48, 60, maybe even 120fps in the far far far future). Due to the system configuration I'm limited to 2.5" form factor drives, and if I'm reading the OP right my best bet would probably be the Intel DC series. Am I right in thinking this, and could you recommend a particular model number?

Also, the compatibility data on the Adaptech 51245 with SSDs is from 2013. Does anyone have any experience running newer SSDs on slight older RAID controllers?

You may be able to get by with just software RAID-1 or RAID-0 & SSDs, and skip the RAID controller altogether. I have 2x1tb Samsung 850 software RAID-0, and it's as fast as you would expect (2x), so if you were to take 4x SSDs, I think you'll easily match your 12x custom RAID setup, with a lot less hassle, noise, heat, and cost.

Skandranon fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Dec 6, 2016

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Risket posted:

Great idea, but not really an option in this system. The motherboard doesn't have any onboard SATA/SAS ports, so the only way I could do this would be to get a PCI-e SATA adapter and install it in place of a RAID controller.

Well, try with current RAID card, and worst case scenario, a relatively inexpensive SATA or RAID card.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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blowfish posted:

you don't really give a poo poo about the data integrity of your video game/porn collection.

There is nothing I care about more.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Arsenic Lupin posted:

My son has an MSI Z270 motherboard (apologies in advance for red-on-black website). Am I right in thinking I can just get a Samsung 850 EVO and slap it in? I'm not interested in paying the price premium for NVMe. He's a gamer, and I'll be checking capacity with him.

E: And I'm planning on checking for Black Friday sales just in case.

Are you looking at the SATA3 or M.2 variants?

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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BeastOfExmoor posted:

I'm thinking of re-purposing a M.2 SSD into a desktop without an M.2 slot. I see adapters to turn M.2 into both SATA and PCIE. Any advantages to one or the other. I'm assuming this is an active piece, rather than a passive metal passthrough. Should I be concerned about performance?

Depends on the drive. M.2 isn't magic, it basically either connects to a SATA bus or a PCI-E bus, often both, but the drive is going to be built to only talk to one. Find that out and then get that adapter.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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This just reminded me that I had an M.2 850 that I couldn't use, and I could use one of these adapters as well.

Found this one on amazon.ca

https://www.amazon.ca/QNINE-Adapter...L70_&dpSrc=srch

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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Mephistopheles posted:

I'm hoping to pick up a 500 GB SSD to replace my 250gb crucial mx300 which limits me to the number of games I have installed. Looking at work the Samsung evo 850 or the WD Blue. What I'm not clear on is for the blue, what is the difference between 2D nand and 3d nand and which one should I get?

This will be my os drive and gaming drive. Appreciate the help.

3d NAND just means it's a lot cheaper for Samsung to produce, doesn't really change much for you. Also, you don't have to upgrade your boot drive to get faster games, you could have multiple drives and simply install your games on a separate drive. If you aren't strapped for cash, get the Samsung one, WD doesn't make it's own SSD drives, they just repackage someone elses.

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Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
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BIG HEADLINE posted:

It doesn't have 3000MB/sec speeds, but honestly do you *need* that?

:frogout:

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