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BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Launch a cubesat to just hang out near the Webb Telescope as the world's most remote file server.

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BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

I just learned that Crucial has a tool called Storage Executive, which includes a feature called Momentum Cache. Safe to assume it's similar to Samsung Magician's optimizers and best not to mess with it?

Yeah, it'll eat up to 25% of your system RAM, or a maximum of 4GB. It's not worth it.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Criss-cross posted:

The Crucial MX500 is the SATA drive to buy, seems to have the most advanced features when it comes to power loss.

Insofar as it actually features *something* to guard against it - not a backup battery so much as they put extra capacitors on the board that discharge into the NAND and give you a modicum of buffer against data loss. Better than nothing, but a good UPS is still your best bet.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Micro Center is already clearing out 1TB 980 Pros for ~$120 in store, I think.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Arguably a better option than the 2TB 980 Pro that doesn't require having a Micro Center nearby: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09QVD9V7R

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Binary Badger posted:

This is good, but Amazon is also selling the 2 TB P31 Gold for only $198, plus another 15% via coupon which brings it down to about $170 for 2 TB.

Just think what it'll be come Black Friday. 2TB for $125?

Kinda hoping for a decent non-QLC 4TB drive (SATA or NVMe, I don't really care which) for $250-300 for the holiday shopping season.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Aug 27, 2022

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
And, as mentioned upthread, Amazon has decent prices right now on the 2TB SKHynix P31 (be sure to apply the 15% off coupon) and P41, depending on whether you need/want PCIe 3.0 or 4.0.

They pretty consistently outperform the Samsungs but cost less simply on the merits that SKHynix isn't a household name but their poo poo is *everywhere*.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Apparently prices are going to be going even lower: https://www.techpowerup.com/298492/nand-market-oversupply-ssd-prices-could-drop-by-30-35-another-20-in-q4

You know, unless another "power outage" happens. :rolleyes:

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Sep 3, 2022

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Splicer posted:

I'm getting a gaming laptop (yes yes shut up) and I'll have two SSDs, each 2TB, one for games and one for the OS/data storage. My choices are two Samsung 980 Pros, two Corsair Force MP600s, or one of each. Thoughts, other than "Why are you getting a gaming laptop"?

e: reliability > performance if relevant, I don't want to have to crack this thing open to replace anything any time soon.

I wouldn't recommend PCIe 4.0 drives. The MP600 comes with a pretty beefy passive heatsink attached which should tell you something.

My advice would be to get two SKHynix 2TB P31s. They're still plenty fast (3.0) and they run cooler than most NVMe drives.

https://www.amazon.com/SK-hynix-Internal-3500MB-Compact/dp/B099RHVB42/

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

I've heard that SSDs can't be trusted to retain data when powered off for extended periods of time. How long would a system need to be powered off for before you would expect to start to see data degradation?

I think it's overstated. I found and plugged in an old 128GB 830 Pro about two years ago after it had been disconnected from power for a good five years and it still had accessible, uncorrupted data on it.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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mobby_6kl posted:

Perfect for all your SSD cooling needs.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categ...p/CX-9029002-WW

And that's not the only one out there.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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There have been arguments that heatsinking the NAND can transfer *more* heat to the controller chip, or at least form an insulating barrier of sorts.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Would these 1600X be decent to put in something like a Synology DS720+ NAS? It has provisions for two M.2 drives.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Amazon's selling a TeamGroup 4TB PCI 3.0 drive for $260: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z7LN8NM

Phison E12 controller, DRAM-cached, five year warranty. Could be $199 in six months, or another earthquake might happen and send it back into the $350 realm. Who knows. :shrug:

Also, 2TB SK Hynix PCIe 4.0 drive is down to $182 (it was $208 back in August): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QVD9V7R

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jan 25, 2023

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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DRAM on a drive matters way less than it used to, but I still, personally, would not buy any non-TLC SSD without a DRAM cache. The price difference/savings just never made a lot of sense to me, since it's often a ~$20-40 difference, max.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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It's roughly $10-20 more per drive and that falls into the "why loving not" category for me. What I don't understand is why some people are so zealous about saving the cash equivalent of a McDonald's value meal (or two) on a vital component in their PCs.

I fully support using DRAM-less and QLC drives for Steam drives and non-critical applications, but for boot drives I'm always going to recommend good quality TLC drives with a DRAM cache because it's only $10-20 more. Benchmarks be damned.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Feb 26, 2023

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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necrobobsledder posted:

DRAM must use a bit more power as well which matters significantly if one's compute situation is mobile computing but it's important to consider aggregate power usage for the work units (read: might be worth the DRAM if it makes the total power use for the compute lower). So something like the WD Black SN770 is a better idea potentially than the SK Hynix P41 Platinum. I don't think performance is ever truly free in terms of TCO anyway.

A PCIe 4.0 drive in a laptop just feels like a bad idea in general, both for power consumption and heat-wise, but the P31 is extremely power-efficient and more than fast enough.

Cygni posted:

All that said, we have absolutely reached the point where “does it have DRAM or not” is no longer really THE determining factor of a drive being dogshit or not anymore. The SN770 is probably the poster child.

I agree with this, but given the price difference I'm still always going to be partial to DRAM drives, even for a "gamgam" PC, because if that extra $10-20 means even an extra day's worth of time between first boot and that first "my computer isn't working, YOU need to come fix it because YOU built it" call, it's worth it to me.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Feb 25, 2023

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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ChickenWing posted:

Enthusiast argument vortex, got it


(That was very informative tyvm)

If you don't mind my asking, how new is the computer you're planning on putting the SSD into, and do you offhand know - or can you find out - what kind of motherboard it has?

If not, my recommendation to you is the SKHynix P31. The P41 is more money for more (questionably worthwhile) speed and heat as a result of that extra questionably-worthwhile speed.

Or, because upside down is right side up, get the 1TB P41 because it's cheaper than the damned P31 right now: https://a.co/d/68qH2jR

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Feb 26, 2023

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Yeah, honestly I'd be hard-pressed to notice the difference between SATA and NVMe, and once you've ditched HDDs or banished them to NAS boxes, the transfers between "normal user" files between SSDs (regardless of the technology or interface) is damned near instantaneous or close enough.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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A 4TB Crucial MX500 is $240 at the moment. Not the newest drive by far but it'll get the job done you need it to.

If you want closer to 8TB, look at the Micron 5300 Pro: https://www.cdw.com/product/micron-...&cm_ite=7076053

And the Samsung PM893 (not QLC): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B83T9KNB

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Mar 3, 2023

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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WhyteRyce posted:

Solidigm just launched some whiz bang fancy driver that does optimizations. I have no idea if it loads for other vendor devices though

It'd be interesting to see if it works with SK Hynix drives.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Speaking of Samsung, Amazon has the 4TB 990 Pro for $280 at the moment: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CHGT1KFJ/

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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4TB PCIe 3.0 TLC drives have been hitting ~$150-175 if you can tolerate "slower" transfers. 4TB 4.0 drives have been flirting with $200-250, and a few weeks back if you jumped through a fair amount of hoops, people got a 4TB 990 Pro for ~$170 something.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Calico Heart posted:

Hey guys, I just got an ASUS TUF A15. SSDs are a pretty big blindspot for me, and find myself getting quite lost reading about the exact specifications, and what I need. It has two slots and comes with a 500 GB SSD preinstalled, I think this one looks good and should fit the requirements, but I’m really not sure. Would really appreciate someone letting me know if this has any glaring problems or anything, it is also at the upper limit of my budget;

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-In...ps%2C133&sr=8-5


Cheers in advance, this sub forum has generally been incredibly helpful

1TB SSDs are almost all single-sided these days, meaning there are chips on only one side of the board, so you should be fine. It's only when you get into the 2-4TB+ drives that you have to ensure the laptop has space/no obstructions for them.

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BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

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Calico Heart posted:

Oh, I have a 4070 and Ryzen 9. Is that what that’s referring to?

If you have a 4070 and a Ryzen 9 then you almost assuredly have a second M.2/NVMe slot.

Assuming this is your laptop, this video shows you the internals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpvbxS51TlM&t=194s

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