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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I like to point this out but when people talk about a unitary healthcare system, they're missing the forest for the trees. You really have three primary components each trying to squeeze the most amount of money out of the other and in turn out of consumers. Are you implying that the free market has some kind of flaw?
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Sep 1, 2016 14:57
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JohnCompany posted:Basically that states have proven themselves unable to implement it and either the states themselves or SCOTUS should abolish it. She waffles on the federal death penalty, saying that it's appropriate for certain, very rare cases - Oklahoma City, for one. That's not "waffling" it's nuance
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Sep 1, 2016 14:58
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Shifty Pony posted:It is only a matter of time before expiration date lockouts are implemented, similar to inhalers disabling themselves after X metered doses despite medication still remaining in the cartridge. Wonder if someone will get prosecuted under DMCA for bypassing that...
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Sep 1, 2016 14:59
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Yinlock posted:Are you implying that the free market has some kind of flaw? Sounds more like the idea of Single Payer being a one stop solution is fundamentally flawed. After all, Medicare is a single payer solution and prices are still high because they're barred from negotiating prices.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:00
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I like to point this out but when people talk about a unitary healthcare system, they're missing the forest for the trees. You really have three primary components each trying to squeeze the most amount of money out of the other and in turn out of consumers. Its worse than that, in an effort to maximize profits, you now have insurance groups establishing Health Clinics to cut out the middle man.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:01
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Guys Hillary's down to 75% on FiveThirtyEight. I'm Arzying so hard!  How's she looking in the state polls? I'm assuming it's still more than fantastic.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:01
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Keep arzying cause they're going down too: https://twitter.com/538politics/status/771331324821078017
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Sep 1, 2016 15:03
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CascadeBeta posted:Guys Hillary's down to 75% on FiveThirtyEight. I'm Arzying so hard! Ya she's ahead still in every swing state, with comfy margins in states that add up to well over 270 EV Rasmussen just had a ridiculous tracker poll but if tracking polls aren't entirely stupid and pointless then this election hasn't done much to disabuse me of this belief
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Sep 1, 2016 15:03
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I still wish Obama had the willpower to push for a public option, but I can't get too upset because I qualified for the medicaid expansion.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:04
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canepazzo posted:Keep arzying cause they're going down too: I don't get how the takeaway here is that Clinton has no EV advantage tbqh
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Sep 1, 2016 15:05
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canepazzo posted:Keep arzying cause they're going down too: This is about the point where she had to kick it into first gear rather than wait for Trump shooting himself in the foot anyway.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:05
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Also keep in mind that the media are currently dog-piling Hillary for nothing whatsoever, they've just realized she's given them no ammo and are super-desperate.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:07
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Epic High Five posted:I don't get how the takeaway here is that Clinton has no EV advantage tbqh Nate needs clicks!
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Sep 1, 2016 15:08
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Alkydere posted:Basically the prices were always really expensive... It's not hard to find out how much a unit costs to produce. The question then is how much is reasonable to charge patients above this. Of course, the argument tends to be that they need to charge an outrageous amount for a final product, because R&D and approval is incredibly expensive, and only a small number of their attempts make it all the way through. They need to charge exorbitant rates, otherwise they can't develop anything new. And this seems persuasive, because ultimately everyone recognizes that development of new medical products is a public good, and needs to be funded. But most people don't complete the logical circle, and realize that purchasing an epipen at an exorbitant price today so that someone else can buy the latest boner pill tomorrow is a kind of tax to fund a public good. But not everyone is paying the tax, only sick people. And that is a fundamental problem that government should address.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:09
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zoux posted:Nate needs clicks! Like, if Trump had those numbers I'd already be carving a new life for myself out in the Canadian wilderness But Clinton does and all of a sudden it's irrelevant
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Sep 1, 2016 15:10
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Epic High Five posted:Like, if Trump had those numbers I'd already be carving a new life for myself out in the Canadian wilderness Maybe cause the leads have shrunk, in some cases by 50%, in 2 weeks? Tho I think in some of these there were no new polls, they just adjusted them down to reflect the national polls.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:11
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Epic High Five posted:Like, if Trump had those numbers I'd already be carving a new life for myself out in the Canadian wilderness In Nate Silver's opinion, Clinton's lead is as secure as O+1.3 was in 2012. There are a lot of other pollsters who disagree.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:13
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Are there any good books which examine in detail the differences in healthcare systems between major countries and what kind of outcomes they achieve? I'd really like to learn more about whats the difference between say England's single payer system and Germany's multiplayer system and what kind of results they produce.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:13
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The Iron Rose posted:Oh please, just look at USPOL on June 12.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:14
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Inferior Third Season posted:Your entire post depends upon this premise, but the interesting thing is why this is the case. How much was spent on R&D development (not counting funds provided by the government), including failed attempts? How much was spent on getting approval? How much does the machinery that makes it cost? How much does each unit cost in raw materials? Who are the middlemen between the manufacturer and final patient, and what are their markups? And how much is spent on advertising? How much is spent on putting ads for Fuckitol on TV/Radio/Billboards everywhere? How much is spent giving kickbacks to doctors every time they prescribe the newest opiate? How much is spent lobbying? How much is spent on executive bonuses after raising the price of a drug delivery system that was perfected years ago? Yes, poo poo's expensive, however it shouldn't be nearly as expensive as it is. There has been a very real three way price gouging war between pharmaceuticals, insurance agencies and service providers for decades that's left us in this place.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:15
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"HRC Doesn't Have an EC Advantage," I think means "it's rather unlikely she wins the EC and loses the popular vote", not "she doesn't have a clear lead where Trump needs to pick off every swing state, and depending on how you feel about NH/PA/WI, one of those needs to be a swing state too."
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Sep 1, 2016 15:20
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Geostomp posted:This is about the point where she had to kick it into first gear rather than wait for Trump shooting himself in the foot anyway. Trump's foot has been completely pulverized out of the way and he's just shooting the floor now.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:21
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FactsAreUseless posted:Because white-collar criminals don't go to prison.  Are you implying all white-on-white crime is strictly white-collar?
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Sep 1, 2016 15:21
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I believe nothing. Religious goon: Oh no you don't!
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:Are there any good books which examine in detail the differences in healthcare systems between major countries and what kind of outcomes they achieve? I'd really like to learn more about whats the difference between say England's single payer system and Germany's multiplayer system and what kind of results they produce. http://www.healthpowerhouse.com/files/EHCI_2014/EHCI_2014_report.pdf This ranks the healthcare of the EU countries.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:28
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/bill-clinton-used-tax-dollars-to-subsidize-foundation-private-email-support-teneo-227613quote:Bill Clinton's staff used a decades-old federal government program, originally created to keep former presidents out of the poorhouse, to subsidize his family’s foundation and an associated business, and to support his wife’s private email server, a POLITICO investigation has found. ohhh boy e: to be clear, the article outright says there's nothing illegal here. But it is, as they say, not a good look
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emdash posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/bill-clinton-used-tax-dollars-to-subsidize-foundation-private-email-support-teneo-227613 Yeah, I hate how people can just spend their pension on whatever they want.
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emdash posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/bill-clinton-used-tax-dollars-to-subsidize-foundation-private-email-support-teneo-227613 https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/771328439936745472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_Presidents_Act Unless...this article is about standard government practice that is pretending like it's sinister because it's Hillary Clinton....(it's Bill Clinton but you know who really wears the pants in that family!!)
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Sep 1, 2016 15:31
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zoux posted:Unless...this article is about standard government practice that is pretending like it's sinister because it's Hillary Clinton.... Like it's literally a pension. That's why it was set up, because Truman was such a sad sack.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:32
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computer parts posted:Like it's literally a pension. That's why it was set up, because Truman was such a sad sack. Tax Payer Funds!!! Lines between things blurred!!!
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Sep 1, 2016 15:33
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/771328439936745472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw I agree. I don't post this stuff to arzy, I post it so that when Trump says in a speech within ~36 hours that the Clintons spent tax dollars on their foundation, the thread will know where it came from e: yes I had in my post that there was nothing illegal, no need for the jump quote haha
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Sep 1, 2016 15:35
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https://twitter.com/mikememoli/status/771109294800564225 Oh baby.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:36
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max4me posted:I am going to assume you mean minorities as in (none whites). The problem for the right is that the kindred ideals only really exist on an extremely surface examination. Ok, Blacks and Latinos tend toward being religious. Now look at how the preferred tenets of their religiosity compare to those of the typical Republican Holy Roller. Their religiosity is much more likely to be steeped in social justice rather than prosperity gospel. They also have very different political priorities and are unlikely to be voting based on guns, taxes, and abortion. Plus they're understandably turned off by nationalism, which is a core fetish of the GOP. The Southern Strategy isn't about picking up minorities while also picking up racist voters. It's about picking up the racists while using just enough plausibly deniable language to also pick up the selfish idiots who can't stomach full throated racism but will happily gobble up veiled racism. Minorities however don't miss the fact that all those code words are still talking about them. Further, in addition to racial minorities the GOP also likes to gently caress up gender issues. The GOP isn't going to be able to just throw a coat of paint over their dilapidated racist misogyny van and suddenly get all those non-white men on board. They're going to have to actually get a new ride if they want to pick off the Democratic coalition.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/771328439936745472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw And that's how the media will decide to ignore Trump going bipolar yesterday.
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Nucleic Acids posted:And that's how the media will decide to ignore Trump going bipolar yesterday. Oh no one is ignoring poo poo, the vast majority of news today is about Trump, Mexico and immigration.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:41
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/stephen-bannon-world-warcraft-gold-farming-donald-trumpquote:Bannon joined and eventually ran a company that made its name and fortune as an online marketplace to sell virtual gold to World of Warcraft players and other online gamers. Can't get much more appropriate for the con that is the Trump campaign.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:42
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If you want to get anything done these days, you absolutely have to remove the Republican's ability to temper tantrum about it to show off. Otherwise we get a repeat of Ted Cruz misunderstanding Dr. Seuss whenever we want to pass a traffic law.
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zoux posted:Oh baby. loving yessssssss. GOP, if you had been reasonable even a little bit, it wouldn't have had to come to this.
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