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Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Why doesn't anyone talk about the real scourge of white-on-white crime?

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Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

FactsAreUseless posted:

Because white-collar criminals don't go to prison.

:confused: Are you implying all white-on-white crime is strictly white-collar?

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is painfully unfunny--the Borowitz Report of NPR

Is there a radio show or podcast in the US that is similar to Wait Wait Don't Tell Me but actually funny and satirical? I know the UK has The News Quiz, which is consistently very good and is often sharp in their political commentary. WWDTM is just too boring and milquetoast for me.

Generally I wish our radio shows were as good as BBC Radio 4's.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Freakonomics is just smug libertarian fluff anyway. They make the irritating assumption that their neoclassical view of economics is the only perspective that all economists have.

I used to watch the Apprentice as well, before it was filled with celebrities. The boardroom segments at the end were a bunch of desperate MBAs all fighting to lick Trump's nuts, since Trump decided who was fired. I remember he fired a black woman because all the other women claimed she was "crazy", and Trump believed them.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

happyhippy posted:

Well she did apply to go onto the Apprentice.

I've actually read that the runners-up on the Apprentice were a lot better off, since they'll be scouted out by the best companies, while the winners were forced to be Trump's spokespeople and had to promote his brand.

Also that Deplorables article is one hell of a read.

quote:

“Let a man come into the bathroom with my little girl, and he may not make it out,” she said. “North Carolina — we’re conservative, we’re Christian, but we’re also a little crazy, and we will defend ourselves.”

quote:

Lilly also debated with Michelle Visconte, 47, who says Trump was right to label illegal immigrants as rapists and criminals.

“I dated Hispanic men all of my life, and now I’m just like, I’m done. I’m done,” Visconte said. “Because you know what? They’re here to bleed us and take advantage of whatever they can get.”

“No, they’re not,” said Lilly, who lived in California for 27 years before recently returning to North Carolina. “Were all of your boyfriends rapists and criminals?”

“Not every one. I had a couple good ones,” Visconte said.

“Were they all criminals?” Lilly asked.

“No,” Visconte replied. “Wait a minute, wait a minute: Yes, they were criminals if they came over to the United States illegally. That’s a criminal.”

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Aren't there at least some good subreddits with non-awful communities? I don't go on reddit often enough to name any other than AskHistorians (and maybe AskScience)

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

I'm sorry do you want me to post about Trump handing down Play doh donations instead? Remember that, people thought that was funny to post about.

It...was :confused:

axeil posted:

Well the original authors of Freakonomics are Chicago school guy if I recall correctly so I'm not surprised they give zero consideration to externalities or how microeconomic modeling is all game theory these days which explains how you can get "irrational" decisions being made.

Yeah they are, the same school of economics Pinochet used to ruin Chile. They even have Bryan Caplan on their podcast, a literal ancap.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

axeil posted:

the main problem with economics is you have some people treating it like a science when if you start with different assumptions you get totally different policy responses. starting with marxian assumptions or austrian assumptions yield different equilibrium outcomes than keynesian assumptions or chicago school assumptions. there are no varying sets of assumptions in say, physics, which is why it's a true natural science. economics is definitely a social science but until we figure out which assumptions are always right (hint: none of them are) it'll never be more than applying math and statistics to human psychology.

Which is why it's frustrating when they claim to represent what all economists say and think. Planet Money is an even worse offender, claiming that all economists endorse the abolition of income taxes, among other things.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
I went to Times Square once. It was an unnecessary excessive assault on the senses, which is basically what Trump embodies

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

legstump posted:

those brave soldiers didn't die in russia so i could write the letter R backwards, commie

every time I see a Toys Я Us I have a momentary seizure and scream they have arrived

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
It's hard to make any differentiation after David Duke tweeted a Pepe.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Fun fact, I actually voted for Stein in 2012, mainly because my grandmother is a registered Green and she wanted to give the Greens more visibility so they could potentially get federal funding (as if the Greens would be able to use it competently, let alone have a chance of getting it). And now every time Stein does something crazy/stupid I always think "gently caress, I voted for that nutcase".

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Many Trump supporters have outright said that they don't care if Trump doesn't deliver on his campaign promises (many of them don't think the wall will ever be built), they just want to vote for him because they believe in him. It's nothing more than a cult of personality.

I'm surprised Trump's protectionist attitudes aren't alienating the GOPe more. Do they just care about Pence making the actual decisions at this point?

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
I'm assuming 'saves' is in the sense that we won't even have to worry about the swing states if Texas flips.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
I'm surprised the doctor's note didn't also list the length of his very large penis.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

greatn posted:

What country is most likely to take a systems engineer and American modernist literature professor with a focus on technology? In case Trump wins.

I imagine if Trump wins the whole world will quarantine Americans from ever immigrating to their country. :ironicat:

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Dick Trauma posted:

Donald Trump is the Republican candidate for President.

DONALD TRUMP

This is like a scene from Back to the Future. We need to go back in time to fix whatever mistake allowed this horrible alternate future to take shape.

Donald Trump is actually Biff Tannen with the sports almanac irl. The future has already been altered.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Are there shy Trump supporters out there? We are in the era of open white nationalism now.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
On Election Day, most millenials will solidly vote for Hillary. Millenials' political views may not be as ideologically coherent, but they do trend liberal.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

That's even truer if you read it as Ex-Men.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
The pivot was in us the whole time -The Media

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Of all the election cycles to want to vote third party, they choose the cycle where the third party candidates are much more incompetent than they normally are. Some of the electorate is so desperate for their dream non-weird anti-establishment candidate, but many of them will come crawling back.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Yeah but they're even worse now somehow. Stein wasn't actively shilling for Putin in 2012 as I recall.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

A social democrat going on stage and lying about being a socialist would be a pretty big problem.

"Socialist" and "social democrat" are sometimes interchangeable (especially in America where basic human decency is considered socialist). After all the Socialist International and Socialist parties in Europe are all social democratic.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
I'm still a huge fan of Bernie and I'm tired of Bernouts still concern trolling about Hillary months after the DNC. Although partly because the pro-Hillary posters then poo poo on Bernie and Bernie's still a cool guy y'all :smith:

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
If the Democratic Party suddenly fell in love with someone like Jill Stein that would be a Trump-esque situation.

lozzle posted:

"Freedom, America, Cookies"

Ron Paul Liberty Cookies, Now With 25% More Colloidal Silver!

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
I just mean in the sense that superdelegates would theoretically need to intervene and pick someone else.

Although I'm sure Trump and Stein could bond over their shared fear of autism-laden needles.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

drilldo squirt posted:

She didn't lose consciousness if I remember right. Anyone else think it's cool right wingers have admitted to themselves that their beliefs and candidate are indefensible so they have resorted to just saying poo poo to get a rise out of stupid people?

They've been doing that for years, they've just recently become less subtle about it.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
So did the media just spend 3 weeks indulging in Hillary conspiracy theories so that they have the capital to hatefuck Trump's campaign through the debates? Did they lull Trump into a false sense of security?

Or will the false balance continue to be false.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

hexenmexen posted:

It's good you feel you have enough legal understanding to pick and choose the elements that should be adhered to in the constitution.

I'm just glad your not a justice.

If you had enough legal understanding you'd know that the insurrectionist theory of the 2nd amendment is a myth and not what the 2nd amendment intended.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Zanzibar Ham posted:

If only Bernie won the primaries all the xenophobic Islamophobic misogynistic fascists would be polling Democrat right now.

Can people stop saying this. The bigoted shithead Bernouts were a tiny vocal minority compared to all the Bernie supporters who are now backing Hillary. And I think the racists would still support Trump in a Bernie vs. Trump race.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Deified Data posted:

I voted for Stein in 2012, the first presidential election I voted in, because my home state was red beyond a shadow of doubt and wanted to vote for a "real liberal". Anti-vax wasn't in her platform (and still isn't as far as I know), but I was ignorant of the damage that "both sides are the same" candidates actually do to an already flawed system. And now the final nail in the coffin is her ties to Russia and her toadying for Putin - I've always regarded her as a flake but at that point I lost any shred of respect I had for her. I don't like Hillary and I still don't regard myself as a Democrat but I now see the value in throwing another vote towards the person who's not a Nazi, even if they don't carry my state.

As my punishment for this I keep receiving calls, letters, and emails begging for donations. I accept this stoically.

Fellow Stein 2012 voter here :smith::hf::smith: It would be interesting if we had a PR system that allows for competent people to join the Green Party and make it politically viable enough to win seats, but instead their political disenfranchisement just encourages them to be their terrible pseudoscientific selves.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
I was a teenage libertarian in 2008 and even bought Ron Paul's book. I thank the online libertarian community for disgusting me enough to stop continuing down that rabbit hole.

DemeaninDemon posted:

That's kind of the thing about a two-party system. Any competent people realize that the only way to make progress pushing their ideas is to join one of the two parties that actually wins.

That's partly why I've given up on all third party politics. I just can't get into the mindset of wanting to vote for someone like Stein/Johnson now, especially after they've tripled down on their incompetence. There's no reason to feel smug after voting for one of those schmucks.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

Trumps stop and frisk comments are deeply concerning. Coupled with his call for more nsa spying im not sure who the least authoritarian candidate is anymore. Dude used to be in favor of the abolition of the war on drugs i wonder if he still stands by that.

probably robert morrow

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

lozzle posted:

Just another reminder that economic models are useless and bad.

Praxeology is the only way. :ancap:

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
The Republican Party / conservative movement has been a grift machine for decades now, and I don't think they know how to recognize grift when it's right in front of their face. I have absolutely no sympathy for them getting hosed by Trump, they brought this on themselves.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Ain't no rule says a cheeto can't be president

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Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Bullfrog posted:

I know it's hip to be aloof and cold (and this is slate, of course), but I feel this. So many of my friends do too. Arzying is a new American pastime.

Fear, Anxiety, and Depression in the Age of Trump: Therapists and their patients are struggling to cope amid the national nervous breakdown that is the 2016 election

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/09/trump_induced_anxiety_is_a_real_thing.html

I've literally had nightmares of getting killed by a mob of Trump supporters. I've never had that happen for any election before. I've had to go on short sabbaticals once in a while to keep my sanity.

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