USPOL Sep: Hillary has tuberculosis

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Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

I don't get how the atheist discussion is relevant to American politics since we're at least another decade away from having an open atheist in high office. We'll have a gay Muslim president before we have an atheist one.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2016 09:49

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 08:46

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

canepazzo posted:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/771672562287935488

I just love these ads. "Here's what he said. Here's what actually happened. Your call"

Has any presidential candidate ever had this much free material to work with?

# ¿ Sep 2, 2016 13:00

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Rhesus Pieces posted:

They're not concerned about her dying in office. It's all a part of the belief that she's constantly lying about everything and hiding the Truth from the public.

Wouldn't hiding the capital T Truth from humanity mean that she is basically God?

# ¿ Sep 3, 2016 15:24

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

I suspect we're going to have more than a few years of truck drivers doing what airline pilots do now: not much on the open highway, but a whole hell of a lot in cities, parking lots, and inclement weather.

What's weird is people acting like self-driving cars are an all/nothing dichotomy. There's a lot of "driver assistance" technology in between, you guys.

The issue is that laws right now are indeed "all or nothing", right? Either you're completely in control and have responsibility over the vehicle or you don't. How is that going to be squared with auto drive features creeping in?

# ¿ Sep 5, 2016 02:10

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

It's already squared away, and it basically works like airline pilots. You can turn on the driver assistance programs, you can even rely on them, but you have to be paying enough attention to the road to correct your course and speed if they fail. This means you can offer more attention to the sound system or the other people in the car, but sadly the days of reading a good book while behind the wheel is a decade or more ahead of us.

Also, IANAL but I'm pretty sure civil law courts can assign percentages of blame when there's more than one defendant.

If they're gonna handle responsibility the way it's handled for airline pilots then it's gotta be made a lot harder to get a driver's license. Not that I wouldn't be all for that, mind you.

# ¿ Sep 5, 2016 03:26

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

computer parts posted:

CDLs are already different from normal driver's licenses, though obviously they can be tightened up too.

Oh yeah, we're talking about truck driving and not personal driving. For a personal driver, I still think the responsibility to monitor auto driving systems as well as driving by themselves is too much to ask for the current level of training they get.

For commercial drivers that level of training should be no problem. It's their job, after all.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Sep 5, 2016

# ¿ Sep 5, 2016 03:43

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Wait is someone wearing their watch in the shower? I'm confused.

# ¿ Sep 6, 2016 03:16

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Looking at news of Duterte calling Obama a son of a whore and the US ambassador a gay son of a whore I am wondering why him and Trump haven't made out yet or if they have already and we just don't know it.

# ¿ Sep 6, 2016 04:19

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

The BBC website is "Trump says Putin better than Obama" in big letters across the top anyway.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2016 04:52

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

straight up brolic posted:

Trump is loving insane with Putin.

He has nothing to gain politically by espousing him and everything to lose (deeply unpopular with US electorate, a despot, does the things people are afraid of Trump doing) and somehow doesn't understand that you do not have to be complimentary every time that you talk about someone.

Also he seems to be taking Putin at his (sometimes mistranslated) word when he complements him back. How stupid is this guy?

# ¿ Sep 9, 2016 15:35

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

vyelkin posted:

�Well, I just don�t think she has a presidential look. And you need a presidential look. You have to get the job done,� Trump told ABC�s David Muir in an interview that aired Tuesday. �I think if she went to Mexico she would have had a total failure. We had a big success.�

Trump has said regularly on the campaign trail that Clinton does not look presidential, which his critics have blasted as a sexist attack on the first female presidential nominee for a major political party.

When Muir pressed Trump on whether his comments were about her physical �aesthetic,� Trump shrugged � suggesting his disapproval with the question � before knocking Clinton for her attacks on him.

�I�m talking about � hey, by the way, she says things about me that are horrible. As an example, the single greatest asset I have, according to those that know me, is my temperament,� he told Muir. �But she came up with this Madison Avenue line, �Oh, let�s talk about his temperament.� It�s the single greatest asset I have is my temperament.�

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...sidential-look/

I can't believe how clumsy he is about dodging questions compared to other candidates, but I guess if moderators and interviewers and stuff aren't going to press him on it...

# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 00:36

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

computer parts posted:

Reminder that "who do you expect to win" polls are much more predictive of victory.

I'd like to see the source on this.

edit: has there been any meaningful response to Hillary's smack talking (and/or partial retraction) among undecided voters? I mean, I don't even know how their brains work on a fundamental level so I am never sure how to interpret information about them, but still...

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Sep 11, 2016

# ¿ Sep 11, 2016 05:48

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

emdash posted:

https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/774960689580429312

Frankly its refreshing to hear the opinion that war itself is just illegal.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2016 15:02

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

hallebarrysoetoro posted:

the arzying in this thread is amazing

There's not enough white men to vote Trump in, and probably have more actual health issues than Clinton

This election is shaking my faith in reality itself.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2016 23:39

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Instant Sunrise posted:

Freakonomics is responsible for my embarrassing College Libertarian phase, so I'll always hate that book because of that.

Having read it in college myself I have problems with it being anecdotal but how does it turn people into Libertarians? I remember the stories about sumo wrestling rigging and the drug gang business and stuff, but what am I forgetting?

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Sep 14, 2016

# ¿ Sep 14, 2016 00:19

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

paperwind posted:

This is pretty much how locals in Hawaii feel about Waikiki.

My first few months of living in Honolulu were like holy poo poo Waikiki every day but after four years I was like "oh yeah...that place. I wonder what it looks like now?"

# ¿ Sep 14, 2016 02:24

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

endolithic posted:

It's nice to have a little good old fashioned Olbermann outrage again.

_{_{Even if it's a little weird seeing him in person and not as a cartoon whale}}

The outrage is appropriate but I still wonder, other than as a historical record will it mean anything? Maybe the historical record is all that is left that matters anymore...

# ¿ Sep 14, 2016 10:06

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Chokes McGee posted:

Just got caught up on the birtherism coverage. S...something mattered?

He didn't admit any fault so no, nothing continues to matter.

# ¿ Sep 16, 2016 14:05

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

I guess I'm not completely dead inside yet because it still really bothers me how much of Trump's campaign was based on completely baseless claims, and how relatively forgiving society in general has been about it. I don't mean claims that can be disputed with other sources, or claims about the future that no one can really know, I mean claims about completely real and documented things that were completely unresearched and pulled out of an rear end right then and there.

I thought baseless claims were fine when you're at the bar with your friends but not in any kind of professional setting, but it seems that was not a mainstream belief after all, if about half of Americans are ok with baseless claims.

I guess I kind of had that idea for a long time but especially due to the birther thing coming back it's become clear to me in a new way. Whether Trump wins or not, I now know that facts are just not as important to our society as I thought.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Sep 17, 2016

# ¿ Sep 17, 2016 00:41

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

woke wedding drone posted:

Police are racist

Nation�s Largest Police Union Endorses Donald Trump

Nothing else to say, really. No way to get around it.

As badly as I think of police unions I was not expecting this.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2016 01:08

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Augus posted:

how many times does this make it now that he's wink-wink-nudge-nudged about shooting Hillary Clinton?

Just two I think. Did I miss one?

# ¿ Sep 17, 2016 07:54

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Munkeymon posted:

Guys, I just realized something. Obama is retiring to Hawaii, right? They have an independence movement. If the election doesn't go well, they have one hell of a leader just tooling around over there. What level of naval power are we talking about if they tell the mainland to get hosed?

Last I heard he's moving to Chicago and not Hawaii, much to Hawaii's disappointment. His kids were born and raised in Chicago so it makes sense I think.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2016 06:33

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Lemming posted:

Undecided voters should be euthanized humanely for their own good.

I just don't know how they operate at all. If they can't decide about something like this, how do they even decide about which sock to put on first in the morning?

Edit: I mean, after responding to polls saying that they are definitely going to put on socks.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Sep 20, 2016

# ¿ Sep 20, 2016 01:30

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/778760893744160772
Trump's stop and frisk comments didn't get cut.

I can't think of stop and frisk without thinking about the Onion's stop and kiss video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXXaj--a6-4

I know that there are people, probably including Trump, who can laugh at this but not understand the implications for stop and frisk. Some people will never understand what a free society really means.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Sep 22, 2016

# ¿ Sep 22, 2016 02:16

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

vorebane posted:

That I did not know, that seems a bit too lethal to be considered 'less lethal.'

They're less lethal than normal bullets, that's all that means.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2016 08:26

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

vyelkin posted:

This is a very surprising polling result given what we've heard about the discrepancy between Trump and Clinton's ground game.

Unless of course only 15% of the population is located in swing states and every single one of them has been contacted by both campaigns.

One of the options in this simple, completely factual yes/no poll is "no opinion"? I guess pollsters are contributing to this post-fact world too.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Sep 25, 2016

# ¿ Sep 25, 2016 10:25

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Groovelord Neato posted:

turks are white.

The concept of race completely breaks down if you're talking about anyone outside of a few specific ethnic groups.

# ¿ Sep 25, 2016 12:11

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Here in Japan they still learn about old-school race (white, black, yellow) in their textbooks it seems. Like, even college freshman say that. I was about to say what the gently caress guys, but then I remembered that of those three, two are still in use in America. It just won't go away despite being pretty much the worst way to classify humans imaginable.

# ¿ Sep 25, 2016 12:20

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

max4me posted:

Hey sanders you back in Japan? I thought you was kicking it in hawaii.

Yeah, I moved back to Japan about a year and a half ago.

Anyway like I said, in Japan they are apparently learning about the old ideas of race as an actual part of anthropology, not just in a historical sense. Like, that when humans left Africa they left as three or four distinct tribes of different skin colors then later split into all the ethnic groups that we know. I think that area of education might end up being a problem for the multicultural Japan that will have to come someday.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Sep 25, 2016

# ¿ Sep 25, 2016 13:36

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

HannibalBarca posted:

noooooooooo hitler's economic gains were transitory! it was all smoke and mirrors! it would have collapsed on itself without wartime-imposed autarky and forced labor! adam tooze help me!

I didn't realize there were analyses out there of how Hitler's Germany would have fared in the long run if it hadn't become literally Hitler.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2016 00:15

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Crow Jane posted:

I still can't get over the fact that they're trying to say Clinton being prepared is a bad thing.

I was reading about that weeks ago, that the biggest mistake she could make was making too much of a show of the gap in their knowledge and experience.

My god this election is a stupid pile of poo poo.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2016 00:21

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Lemming posted:

I like how much time Trump focuses on people being fat considering every single one of his insults is projection

Come to think of it has he ever accused Clinton of scowling and slouching?

# ¿ Sep 28, 2016 00:33

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Tobermory posted:

Yeah, sixteen years later and I'm still bitter about that debate coverage.

On a related note, I'm mildly surprised that Trump hasn't taken more flak for his response last night about our nuclear first strike policy. It wasn't entirely clear whether Trump knew either the current policy or Obama's proposed changes to it, although he did propose that China should invade North Korea. It was right before Hillary looked into the camera and promised that we would, in fact, abide by our treaty commitments and international law.

That was so close to being a Sarah Palin moment for Trump but not quite. I hope in a future interview we get exactly that, with the interviewer saying "what do you think about our policy on x" and no one or nothing around to help him.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2016 06:38

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Nichael posted:

I already forgot that happened. That was unfathomable and is just another in a long list of things that would instantly sink other candidates.

Is it like a temporary ISP problem in an online game where at some point all of these things will all hit him all at once for 46638 damage?

# ¿ Sep 29, 2016 10:27

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Was everyone expecting that they would be the only one to vote to override the veto or something?

# ¿ Sep 30, 2016 02:41

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Carlosologist posted:

yeah, it's hard to beat actual treason and no way of spinning it in your favor

Yeah right. "Success in business means bending the rules" plays very well in the reality him and almost half of America live in.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2016 04:32

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Endorph posted:

it won't instantly make the entire world abandon him but it will make moderates/undecideds wary

I dunno how you can be so sure about how people who somehow have not made up their minds about trump yet think. I certainly have no idea.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2016 04:41

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Party Plane Jones posted:

Wasn't freedom fries really only a thing at the congressional cafeteria and maybe the ground zero cafe at the Pentagon?

Yeah but as a symbol it means so much more.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2016 06:49

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

How could he not have a sex tape? I'm picturing one like in American Psycho, with him looking directly into the camera the whole time.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2016 13:08

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 08:46

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Xae posted:

Porn is a big, big no no in Evangelical thought.

Encouraging someone to watch porn is the moral equivalent of asking someone to commit adultery. For the really out there but jobs it is the equivalent of rape.

Trump was the holiest of men before he started talking about pornography, I see.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2016 15:08

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