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quote:The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors: Great book, describing a little known battle probably as important to history as Trafalgar or D-day.
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nerd stuff but good: the first two witcher books from andjrejzej sapkowski, polish man, are short story format and good. i liked sword of destiny better of the two. baseball stuff: so far my favorite baseball book is 'all my octobers', but that one guy who got the entire league mad at him for tape recording his thoughts of every day then having a guy turn it into a book was shorter and probably more exciting for you, it was called 'ball four' im pretty sure classic literature: most of this is too long, and fictional, and doesn't fit your idiot bitch requirements. just go read the old man and the sea anyway. if you want to get into poetry: absolutely buy an old compilation of t.s. eliot poems buy all of these from used book fundraiser sales in your area, if you buy new copies of books from dead authors you are a poo poo edit if you like world war II read the ridiculous account of the norwegian resistance written first hand by a cool rear end soldier jan baalsrud, ni liv, or probably in english 'we die alone' instead of 'nine lives' is what you'll find it as
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OP, have you thought about audiobooks? If so, I'd recommend Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey Maturin series narrated by Patrick Tull. It's a historical novels series about the naval war during the Napoleonic Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey%E2%80%93Maturin_series
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extra stout posted:
dont buy second hand book of classic literature in translation. old translations are often very bad.
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Sep 2, 2016 11:17
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Mein Kampf Sounds like the book for you op
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Sep 2, 2016 11:23
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"She Comes First". Or if you're a vagina-haver "He Comes Next".
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Sep 2, 2016 11:28
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RideTheSpiral posted:dont buy second hand book of classic literature in translation. old translations are often very bad. I agree, this is a good rule of thumb.
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I stopped by Chapters the other day and picked up a few books!  The Labors of Hercules by Agatha Christie, because I'm a huge Hercule Poirot fan and for some reason this one is hard to find, both in store and library, so when I found a copy I had to buy it I also walked by a table of their cheapo classics, 3 for $10, so I picked up The Gambler by Fyodor D To Have and Have Not and For Whom the Bell Tolls by Hemingway I haven't read Bell before, I feel I have to in order to save face. tactlessbastard posted:You can never go wrong with this. 
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extra stout posted:
I love Eliot's good stuff, but a lot of his smaller and earlier works are kind of impenetrable: APENECK Sweeney spreads his knees Letting his arms hang down to laugh, The zebra stripes along his jaw Swelling to maculate giraffe. etc. I'd recommend Auden or Larkin, since I think they're a lot more accessible generally: Larkin: They gently caress you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were hosed up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another's throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don't have any kids yourself. Auden (excerpt): A ragged urchin, aimless and alone, Loitered about that vacancy; a bird Flew up to safety from his well-aimed stone: That girls are raped, that two boys knife a third, Were axioms to him, who’d never heard Of any world where promises were kept, Or one could weep because another wept.
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Sep 2, 2016 13:32
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Hyperion by Dan Simmons is great. I know it's genre fiction but it's a bunch of short stories and it's cool.
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extra stout posted:buy all of these from used book fundraiser sales in your area, if you buy new copies of books from dead authors you are a poo poo If only there were some way to rent books, for free, and then return them when you're done.
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Sep 2, 2016 13:53
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White Noise by DeLillo
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I've recommended this in gbs before but the man without a country is really good http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1863/12/the-man-without-a-country/308751/
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GeneX posted:I've recommended this in gbs before but the man without a country is really good I've already read this since you posted it in my The Atlantic whine thread. It's a good read, has a Conrad feel to it.
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hemale in pain posted:Hyperion by Dan Simmons is great. I know it's genre fiction but it's a bunch of short stories and it's cool. I just read this and the sequel on a friend's recommendation, it was quite good. Would you equally recommend the Endymion books? They're apparently a continuation.
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Izzhov posted:If only there were some way to rent books, for free, and then return them when you're done. i have a library card and use it sometimes but my local one is so small that you would save time buying the cheapest copy on ebay, and then if you don't absolutely love the book pass it on to a friend A Strange Aeon posted:I love Eliot's good stuff, but a lot of his smaller and earlier works are kind of impenetrable: probably true of most poets, i found a collection that had the waste land in it and just re-read that something like 6 times a year RideTheSpiral posted:dont buy second hand book of classic literature in translation. old translations are often very bad. too generic advice to be true, aside from seamus heaney's beowulf or something i find there are often several good translations also you can of course look up who did the preferable translation and then write it down on a piece of paper, or memorize it, before supporting your local book sales/fundraisers extra stout fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 06:45
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I read Kon-Tiki recently it was good
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AugmentedVision posted:I read Kon-Tiki recently it was good i liked it too but its been a while, i have yet to see the film adaptation done a few years ago but probably should
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Sep 3, 2016 06:49
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Imagine being a contemporary anthropologist to Thor Heyerdahl tho His anthropological theories are regarded just as false today as they were back then Imagine you're some nerd poring over books in your office, along comes this chad, sails across the Pacific, now he's taking pictures with presidents and everyone believes the b.s. he's peddling that you know to be false
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Does Chandler or Woolrich count as genre fiction? How about Poe? Robert Chambers? William Gibson? Orwell? Kafka? McArthy?
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Sep 3, 2016 13:14
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Reading Raymond Chandler is always a good idea I wish that my copy of his short stories had the names of all the various detectives he used before settling on Marlowe switched... and also their goonier descriptions and dialogue switched over to those of Marlowe
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God Of Paradise posted:Does Chandler or Woolrich count as genre fiction? How about Poe? Robert Chambers? William Gibson? Orwell? Kafka? McArthy?
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FactsAreUseless posted:Yes, yes, no, no, yes of course William Gibson writes genre fiction why would you even ask that jesus, no, no, if you mean Cormac McCarthy, no. McCarthy wrote a post-apocalyptic novel.
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H.H posted:Thanks for all the helpful replies. if you like short stories by charles bukokski "south by no north" is my favorite toilet book
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Genre fiction is not genre fiction because it presents worlds that are different or has surreal or unreal or fantastical conceits or asks readers to accept a setting or elements of a setting that are unique to the book, it's genre fiction because it relies on the conventions of a genre. Detective stories are genre fiction, westerns are genre fiction, that doesn't mean universally every story with a mystery or Nevada in it is genre fiction, only stories that rely on the conventions of a genre. Adding one twist to a genre or writing something that comments on the genre by using its conventions is still genre fiction before everyone starts posting examples of their Big Exception To The Rule.
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Guy Goodbody posted:McCarthy wrote a post-apocalyptic novel.
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dad gay. so what posted:if you like short stories by charles bukokski "south by no north" is my favorite toilet book
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FactsAreUseless posted:And? He wrote tons of stuff that is not genre fiction, there's not some sort of one-drop rule. So he's sometimes genre fiction
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haha goons cant read unless it's dumbed down by george rr mattin
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ham on rye is good if you want to get in the mood for suicide or something
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FactsAreUseless posted:Bukowski's real good to read. Ham on Rye is my favorite novel by him. E: ^^^
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Sep 3, 2016 17:42
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FactsAreUseless posted:Bukowski's real good to read. i had a weird experience with bukowski where i enjoyed him a lot as a young man, but his redundancy in his work annoyed me pretty quickly, and a lot of his poetry was bad seems like i read like 3 things from him before i summed him up as trying to be 'the more degenerate hemingway-light' and since i haven't read anything by him since then, that's still just about how i feel i pulled up his wiki just now to see who he listed as his inspiration, not surprisingly hemingway, but interestingly (since im trying to push norwegian literature on this thread anyway) he lists knut hamsun i guess i can see it, he is revealing a sad, depressing, common yet hidden aspect of human life. but he's not as good at it imo. knut-light with more cigarettes, whores and alcohol, hemingway-light with just more whores.
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I'm reading Murakami's A Wild Sheep Chase and am near the midpoint. It's becoming more a slug to get through; those chapters with the letters from Rat or whatever seem so disconnected from the main narrative. Does it get good? My first Murakami was 1Q84, so having read about Ushikawa's misshapen head about one thousand times I think I can deal with a bit of weirdness.
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extra stout posted:i had a weird experience with bukowski where i enjoyed him a lot as a young man, but his redundancy in his work annoyed me pretty quickly, and a lot of his poetry was bad
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Sep 3, 2016 17:55
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I think there's an entire genre of white male 20th century literature that's all about how unhappy a lot of authors were in their marriages (Updike, etc.) and I'm not fond of it in general, but I think Bukowski is one of the more interesting ones. Sadly I think a lot of American literature discussion begins and ends with these authors and completely misses out on a huge swath of fascinating works. The literary world (as in the whole thing, schools and critics and publishers and writers all together) is still very white and very male, with some pretty strong misogyny in its culture.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Genre fiction is not genre fiction because it presents worlds that are different or has surreal or unreal or fantastical conceits or asks readers to accept a setting or elements of a setting that are unique to the book, it's genre fiction because it relies on the conventions of a genre. Detective stories are genre fiction, westerns are genre fiction, that doesn't mean universally every story with a mystery or Nevada in it is genre fiction, only stories that rely on the conventions of a genre. Adding one twist to a genre or writing something that comments on the genre by using its conventions is still genre fiction before everyone starts posting examples of their Big Exception To The Rule. Another good way you can tell that a book is genre fiction is that it isn't loving boring.
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William Vollman's The Atlas.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I like Bukowski more than Hemingway, because I think he allows himself to be more vulnerable than Hemingway. I like applying the 'death of the author' concept, so it doesn't matter to me that much that Hemingway probably drank more good scotch than Bukowski did cheap rum or whatever, so while you're totally right that Hemingway was constantly writing about his post-war youth where he could still portray bottles of wine as being a fine hobby, it's usually shared with a woman and not a woman he paid to have sex with, and never 14 bottles, I don't know what point I'm getting at other than: Regardless of if Hemingway 'owes it' to you to write about his actual drinking and his actual sex life in it's current state, I just think he is better at telling stories and this part might sound comical, but his range on his stories to me is still more broad than Bukowski. Optimistic ending: Feel free to recommend me a Bukowski novel that isn't just alcohol/cigarettes/prostitution/Seinfeld observations about this society and the characters of it's dark gritty underbelly.
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H.H posted:Hi. may i suggest a little book called the koran namaste
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