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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

Conspiracy theorist/Rorschach-esque JLU Question is probably the most popular, but I could see Arrow going with Denny O'Neil's Zen master martial artist version who teamed up with Green Arrow in the late '80s a lot, especially since they have been influenced by so much of O'Neil's other work with the League of Assassins, etc.

I love the Question, but I've always had a soft spot for Rick Veitch's creepy urban shaman version. It would also be cool if they got Jim Caviezel to play Vic Sage, since Michael Emerson is also joining the cast this season.

If they can get Constantine back, they could do their own version of the Trenchcoat Brigade

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

OB_Juan posted:

It's true that many of the versions of the Question are great, but I think the JLU version was probably the best. It could work really well mixed in with the TV news anchor version, I think. Just so long as he's insufferable.

Save the newscaster character for Jack Ryder/The Creeper. Just let The Question be The Question.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
The marine stuff was later folded in a bit more, but they retain a lot of his attention to detail and meticulousness in his constructs. There's an issue from several years ago which shows off him assembling a sniper rifle construct with each and every individual part as a separate construct as he puts it together. The lantern who has the "boring" constructs is Hal iirc.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

grack posted:

Hal Jordan was also taken down by a bird. An evil bird, admittedly, but it wasn't even green!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z73wTXAxqaw

Hal is the worst of the classic four human GLs. His only advantage is that he has the most "Willpower."

Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz aren't great either, but it's nice to watch Cruz develop from someone with crippling anxiety to a full fledged superhero. Simon otoh is a lot less interesting. At least he doesn't have his gun anymore

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

howe_sam posted:

With no context I thought this was going to be something about Oliver and Felicity...

Sadly, it's one of the few more contentious things than shipping.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Filthy Casual posted:

Everyone needs to be gay next season just out of spite.

It's a shame they used the Rainbow Raider already. Could've been retooled to maximize spite against the anti-lgbt community

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
If Captain Marvel/Shazam wasn't such a naming and rights cluster gently caress, I'd say Routh could do a pretty good Big Red Cheese.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I assume it'll be about Slade's search for his son. Which one though?

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Rocksicles posted:

Look it up you bellend. . We are having a laugh about real politics in a show about ninjas.

Maybe it is you who are the bellend for someone actually asking for source on something that sounds like it came from a general rumor mill? :thunk:

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

STAC Goat posted:

I haven't read in a long time but traditionally, yeah, there's a lot of it there. He's long been the leftist voice for that world who confronts the rest of the heroes on their priorities and methods and how they only really care about big alien threats and never actually use their powers to make the world better or address societal problems. Back in the 70s there was a classic run where he traveled the country with Green Lantern confronting all the political and social problems of America where Arrow argued for radical change against GL's more moderate approach. He also has a similar "family" of sidekicks who have all manner of problems like drug addiction, daddy issues, and HIV from their prostitution pasts. Also he always cheats on Black Canary and everyone else he dates and neglects his "kids" creating all kinds of interpersonal conflict.

They're different but similar. Obviously show Oliver isn't as socially engaged or radical/leftist. Comic Oliver generally has more of a sense of humor and yeah, he eventually turned into a kind of "dad" role for his sidekicks as opposed to the "brother" one the show version has. And his origin was just a rich dude who wanted to be Batman, not the crazy murdering backstory Oliver has. But he's pretty emo for a DC super hero.

Or was. They reboot things all the time so I have no idea what he's like now.

edit: I guess the "shipwrecked" stuff eventually became part of his comic origin but I don't think all the Argus operative and serial killer stuff ever did. But I'm probably wrong about some of that.

Ollie's gone back to his leftist roots after Rebirth and still resists the JL because they tend to focus on the very large threats without really engaging in the more human problems. He used to largely run solo with occasional help by his half-sister, Emiko, daughter of Shado and Robert Queen. Unlike Felicity and Diggle, Thea wasn't written in. Idk where Felicity has gone, and Diggle is working with Merlyn. During New52, a larger overaching plot was set up regarding the Arrow Tribe, one of several secret groups based around some weapon or another. Oliver's dad was a part of it and the island they shipwrecked on was involved. Idk if that's still canon or relevant since it hasn't been brought up after Rebirth. He's more or less the reluctant hero iirc wherein he was pushed into the role because of those events. I haven't read the New52 GA stuff, so I'm not sure about that, but obviously there's a bit of the show that leaked in since they were coming out at around the same time.

Currently he's trying to take back Seattle, renamed Star City, from a villainous organization who acts as the bank and financier for numerous supervillains and supervillain orgs. The person leading this takeover is a Trump-like figure (Make Star City Great Again) so the political parallels are a lot stronger. Ollie also got to recently interact more closely with the JL and came to an understanding with him being an auxillary member ("Friends with Benefits").

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Before the S5 thread caps off, have a blooper reel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHlYjx5iNMc

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