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Jrbg
May 20, 2014

Morroque posted:

If you challenge a bunch of 19 year olds in the media, they can't even defend themselves. They're the perfect target.

I find this is not restricted to the right-wing, figures on the left such as Peter Tatchell have done the same in the UK. An LGBT representative took herself off a panel he was attending for a slew of reasons, whether they're right or not, but what he did next is take this to the media, which, being a prominent activist and media presence, largely sympathised with his complaints over free speech. Even though his free speech was in no way impeded. Like in any way at all. It's not exactly a fair match. (And yeah, there was also an article where he appeared in a photo with tape over his mouth)

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Jrbg
May 20, 2014

It's almost as if this isn't so much about 'free speech' but rather the vindication of undesirable beliefs. When people say they want a marketplace of ideas they're not looking for a competitive model, they're looking for their ideas to be actively subsidised.

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

cravius posted:

Creating bubbles of thought that only cater to certain ideologies is the antithesis of higher education

Except it is impossible to escape putting yourself in a bubble of thought. An article of faith in the goodness and desirability of debate, and professing that left and right are morally equal is ideological, and would be catering to a particular ideology. Your views are never neutral.

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

cravius posted:

If people are so sure they believe in God, they should be able to sit through a talk by Christopher Kitchens or Terry Eagleton. In fact they routinely do, and choose what to believe or disbelieve. This is what education should be. But saying "welp, I have determined that my beliefs are correct and therefore will not entertain any other possibility" is the height of arrogance and intellectual weakness

I think Terry Eagleton is a Catholic. He hated The God Delusion.

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

Edge & Christian posted:

Gotta hear both sides, so if you let a pro-Trump person speak on campus, you should also invite a pro-Hillary person.

But to be truly equitable, also a Jill Stein and a Gary Johnson surrogate.

And to be truly open-minded and inquisitive and academic, someone who argues for a monarchy. And someone who believes a theocratic monarchy. And someone who wants a Caliphate. And someone who wants to end humanity. And also someone who thinks the President is a myth. And someone else who believes in a citystate based on rape.

Otherwise you're a coddled widdle safe space baby.

This is all of course showing our Human bias. What if humans didn't exist? Are we just afraid to have our beliefs challenged?

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