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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
may her reign be long and fruitful and not just a ratings grab

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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
Bockscar dropped Fat Man, you idiot

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

fatherdog posted:

This is kinda sloppy for a match between dudes who have presumably worked together a lot before now, tbh

You seem skeptical about these men and their military service

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

fatherdog posted:

Also I don't really give a poo poo about guys who weren't in the military playing ex-soldier characters, but I wish the announcers wouldn't spend three quarters of the match talking about how their combat experience puts them on a different level. It sounds ridiculously overdramatic, and also kind of dumb when it's being applied to two midcarders.

Well it's not like they're better than the promotion's world champion

Also it keeps Striker from making bad military metaphors soooo

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

StarkRavingMad posted:

I think Mundo does a great job of working heel here. Knowing that Sexy may not be the most popular champ, he cuts out like all his high flying stuff aside from his finisher and does a lot of pretty good matwork and submissions that he doesn't usually show off

This was a bad match to put on after the last one

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Gumball Gumption posted:

It makes sense to me. Sexy is like the only pure baby face and she made a pure baby face mistake. She told the Mack to stay away so that she could prove herself. She's too nice to be champion which fits her character.

Correct the title went from a killer monster to an idiot babyface to an idiot heel.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Alain Post posted:

the general Wikipedia policy, I believe, is to list events (title changes, etc) in all promotions by taping date rather than airing date, so, yes, they do it with TNA/NXT as well

Match date in general, not taping date is their standard. And yeah, they do it against TNA, NXT or WWE. (Less on the latter, since the title changes these days are almost always on live TV)

EC3 has a title reign of 3 days from earlier this year in 2016 from when he won the title to when he lost it, even though the loss aired 2 weeks after him winning it.


StarkRavingMad posted:

It's especially weird with LU where stuff sometimes airs significantly out of order. I wonder what Wikipedia would show if a title change was taped out of order. Like if they had taped Mundo winning the title off of Sexy before Sexy actually won the title.

Or I could even see LU changing results after the fact. If someone won the title and then got seriously injured the next week, LU could just revert that poo poo without a second thought and never air the title change. There's one match coming up this year where they had to tape it twice because one of the participants had kind of a freak injury the first time and they just stopped the match in the middle and sent him to the hospital and then redid it later.

probably throw some sort of footnote or something, tbh even if you were stupid enough to do something like to tape multiple title changes after what happened with Starrcade '93.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

The Senator Giroux posted:

Which Aztec Warfare would you show a new fan who's slightly familiar with the product? I was leaning towards 2 or 3.

Why not the first?

2 is good but also a major part of it is built around the the first season and a half

3 is built around the first two and a half seasons and you then have the Sexy Star title run.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
Pentagon Jr quit AAA.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
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Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

StarkRavingMad posted:

Yeah, given Fenix quitting a few months back, it's no surprise. The question will be if that means anything in terms of LU, it puts him in the pile with Sexy Star, Fenix, and Jack Evans. They still used Sexy last year after she was already on the outs with AAA, and the producers have said "we aren't AAA" when asked if leaving AAA means anything for LU status. I imagine the producers will certainly push to keep using him. Assuming he wants that, but like Fenix it's been a good springboard for him in the US and it's a solid paycheck. But on the other Dorian just got appointed general manager of the LLC, so he may have more power to nix that if he's holding a grudge about it.

I guess we'll see if it means anything when push comes to shove...in like 9 months.

When does Season 4 start taping

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

StarkRavingMad posted:

Unquestionably two of the best episodes. The original Aztec Warfare is what first got me into the show! So good.

Yep, it's the LU equivalent of Goldberg winning the title at the Georgia Dome.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Lone Goat posted:

Just call yourself Hexagon Jr or Heptagon Jr or Nonagon Jr or something, cmon dude

how about Octagon Jr.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

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Nap Ghost

AAA does the talent management for LU.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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Nap Ghost
Congratulations on TNAAAA in moving forward to the future

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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Nap Ghost

Benne posted:

Apparently it was a last-minute call by El Rey when they decided to retool their programming. From Cubsfan:

I don't want to tell Cubsfan that the Baja races are kind of boring unless edited a ton

the fastest time posted in last year's Baja 500 was over 8 hours

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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Nap Ghost

Mulaney Power Move posted:

LU is back? I missed the memo

they're back and ripping off what TNA did to buy time at the end of their DA run

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Nap Ghost

sticklefifer posted:

When the commentary called "New Trios champs!" I thought someone was going to say "Well, 2/3 of them are new." Has there ever been a team-switching championship match? I don't recall seeing that in wrestling before.

Sting vs Giant at the 1998 Great American Bash :v:

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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AKA Driver posted:

The Cueto Cup bracket is out. I feel like my man Vinnie Massaro is the dark horse to pick.

https://twitter.com/luchaelrey/status/874704439734542336

my final four is probably Pentagon, Mil, Puma, and Cage

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING/status/879363050448580609

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/UnderhookDDT/status/881701687244726272

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Nap Ghost

frankenfreak posted:

Him losing his debut match makes me wonder how many luchadores have lost their first match in the temple? Certainly feels like a lot of them did.

Won in first match:
-Season 1 debuts
Blue Demon Jr
Son of Havoc
Johnny Mundo
Mil Muertes
Mascarita Sagrada
Fenix
Pimpinela Escarlata
Cage
Texano Jr
Killshot
The Mack
Delavar Daivari
Hernandez
(Technically the Disciples of Death also win in their debut)
-Season 2 debuts
Kobra Moon
Matanza Cueto
Mariposa
Dr Wagner Jr
-Season 3 debuts
Jeremiah Crane
Hitokori
Pindar
Vibora

Lost in first match:
-Season 1 debuts
Chavo Guerrero
Sext Star
Prince Puma
Ivelisse
El Mariachi Loco (aka El Siniestro de la Muerte, Saltador)
Ricky Mandel
Dragon
Pentagon Jr
King Cuerno
Big Ryck
Famous B
Super Fly
Cortez Castro (Ricky Reyes, Trece, Veneno)
Mr Cisco (Mala Suerte)
Bael
Ricky Mandel
Aero Star
Argenis (Barrio Negro)
Angelico
Vinny Massaro
Alberto El Patron
Jack Evans
Bengala
Marty "The Moth" Martinez
Vampiro
-Season 2 debuts
PJ Black
Joey Ryan
Taya
Daga
El Dragon Azteca Jr
-Season 3 Debuts:
Dante Fox
Paul London
Saltador
Mala Suerte
Doku
Yurei
Veneno

No-Contest in first match:
Black Lotus (Season 2)

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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Nap Ghost
Good news, Taya quit AAA because of a horrible screw job that got the Reina de Reinas title off of her and back to the now unreturned Sexy Star


Oh and they got Johnny Mundo involved in it and use him as a tool, so it'll be interesting to see if he remains with his fiancee out.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Charles Gnarwin posted:

That and the main title program being Mundo/Rey when there are a ton of beloved wrestlers on the roster who should have probably already held the title at this point. They've pretty much stopped doing everything people loved about LU.

People love Sexy Star



Theoretically

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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Nap Ghost
I'd say that it's probably Pentagon who is sorely missing the title, and all of the bad blood between him and AAA will make things interesting for a Season 4.

Maybe Cage or Mack, but no one else really should be in consideration. Everyone else is pretty much basically a parttimer or a geek.

Writer Cath posted:

It feels like the Cueto cup has sucked all the charm out of the show, like there's not time for those wicked fun skits anymore.

I dunno. This is about the time of the season when they've kind of filled in the Gift of God champion with medallions. The Cueto cup really isn't too different in that sense.

Albeit there's like twice as many matches then you'd be seeing GOTG qualifying, and GOTG has fallen off the race of the earth since Mundo used it like 10? episodes ago. The 5 month break didn't help either.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

The Senator Giroux posted:

I do wonder if there's anywhere bat has the non spoilers list of champions because the Wikipedia guys are amazingly giant dickheads when it comes to spoilers for LU.

can we not let a thread degenerate into another stupid argument because Wikipedia has a consistent wrestling spoiler policy that would be irrelevant if this show was produced and run well

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

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Nap Ghost

The Senator Giroux posted:

Sure!

Because of the Cueto Cup, I have no idea what Última Lucha is gonna shape up to look like.

I'll spoiler tag it, but these are my thoughts of where its going from season 3 and aren't taping results


Cueto Cup Finals & World Title match:
I'm thinking that the final is Pentagon/Puma because they've been doing a lot of that work with setting up Puma as being Vampiro's disciple. There's no real other permutation I'm seeing from the quarterfinals that's going to work, since they can only meet in the finals, so I think that's the match. I'm going with Puma, because I think he'll have a better story with either Mundo or Rey. Pentagon's been off in his own rage bubble forever so it doesn't really work too well

World title winner - Mysterio/Mundo - Mundo wins. Rey is a legend, and doesn't need the title, and can totally lose it in a screwy way. Also they're totally building Matanza/Rey, so I don't think that's going to be a threeway at UL3, even if Dario might do that.



Ultima Lucha Tres card:
LU title: Mundo vs Puma

GOTG title: Not sure. I suspect at least Pentagon as a consolation for being a cup finalist, but I dunno who the other 5 or 6 people might be.

Trios title: Snake tribe vs ???, probably set after the Cueto Cup

Matanza vs Rey

Cage vs Mil? - I mean who else do you throw dude with super magical gauntlet out against other than Mil.

Fenix vs Marty. Maybe a mixed tag, with Melissa and Mariposa as partners, but I don't think Melissa wrestles and that would be weird

Killshot vs Dante Fox

I think there'd have to be another 4 or so matches, not sure what they would be.



edit: had an idea for a match as I was reading it over

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jul 30, 2017

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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Nap Ghost

SamuraiFoochs posted:

By the way calling Pentagon LU's Austin is also stupid as hell because the promotion isn't built around him and also he's not a draw at all.

yeah, he's basically their Dean Ambrose

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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SamuraiFoochs posted:

Yeah, all 500 shirts LU has produced. All I'm saying is LU isn't trying to make money. It's a passion project. If they were smart they'd have made Pentagon an Austin-esque face (that's NOT what he is) and make him champ. loving Kobra Moon has had more screen time than Pentagon recently.

nah, LU is trying to make money, they're just sub-TNA levels of good at it

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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Nap Ghost

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Yep. That's honestly the only argument I'm trying to make. Exactly how they portray him is down to taste I guess but that doesn't change the fact that it's goddamn inexcusable Pentagon hasn't been champ, and hasn't really even been a major figure this season.

Don't worry he acrimoniously broke up and left AAA so it's probably for the best.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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Nap Ghost
LU viewers are down about 20% from last week, I guess they listened to Striker

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Mob posted:

folks I think there's some symbolism in Killshot carrying Fox to the medical evac

Let's not talk about the chances of season 4 during Ultima Lucha ok

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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Nap Ghost

SamuraiFoochs posted:

If LU ends with Pentagon never being champ then LMAO

That can't happen unless the writers admit they wrote themselves into a home and waive the 1 week promotion rule.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
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Jackie D posted:

Where the hell is Pentagon going?

to a promotion that actually pays him

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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Jackie D posted:

I thought the whole point of them being masked was so they could do both

Like obviously that's not the case but it's lovely, is all

the masks were a combination of "well maybe it'll tie in better with our metaplot" (Ricochet, Cobb) "we can keep remasking jobbers" (the disciples of death), "we need to change this because its loving ridiculous" (Mil), or "PLEASE DON'T SUE US" (Cuerno)

almost everyone else is wearing the mask they were already wearing

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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harperdc posted:

How? G1 is only televised in Japan and on NJPW World. The G1 Special was a two-event show.

Anybody know if Ricochet matches ever showed up on AXXS TV coverage of NJPW?

never underestimate the power of a wrestling promotion to be petty, especially when it involves wrestling in a promotion directly affiliated with their #1 rivals

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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Nap Ghost
for gently caress's sake LU/AAA waged a proxy war over a loving referee

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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quote:

One person close to the situation described it to me as being told you’ve been drafted to go to war. You don’t want to go, but you really don’t have a choice and just hope the tour of duty is short.


Lucha Underground has officially become M*A*S*H.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
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Take up shelter in the base of my spine
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Mob posted:

The contracts have changed to be much more lenient when it comes to televised appearances for other promotions.

Is this because they can appear on TNA or...

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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

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Nap Ghost
I mean I'll double check but Dave said that while LU can now show up on TNA they're getting the screw when it comes to ROH and NJPW for tv and dates since LU is pulling the right to first date poo poo that WWE does.

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