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I like the whole "let my mother-in-law run over protestors" law. Like, I understand how someone could conjur this boogeyman of protestors jumping out in front of traffic just to get hurt, but really, your response to it is, hey let's make it legal to run people over? Also, one of the legislatures wanted to invite protestors to the discussions on the state budget. We have dumb legislators is what I'm saying
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Silento Boborachi posted:I like the whole "let my mother-in-law run over protestors" law. Like, I understand how someone could conjur this boogeyman of protestors jumping out in front of traffic just to get hurt, but really, your response to it is, hey let's make it legal to run people over? Also, one of the legislatures wanted to invite protestors to the discussions on the state budget. Legislators and those backing legislators aren't dumb. The success of their reactionary agenda is pretty self evident, and they didn't just luck into this success.
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Jan 22, 2017 02:40
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So looks like the Trumpster is taking some time out of his very busy week to stick it to DAPL protestors. 'Trump to Sign Orders Advancing Keystone, Dakota Access Pipelines' http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-sign-orders-advancing-keystone-dakota-access-pipelines-n711321
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Jan 24, 2017 17:11
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^ it wasn't particularly unexpected sadly 
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Jan 24, 2017 17:44
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Condiv posted:^ it wasn't particularly unexpected sadly He's also cutting at least $500 million in federal assistance to tribes.
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Jan 24, 2017 20:12
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Time for another thread title change, perhaps?
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Jan 24, 2017 20:24
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In a way, Trump screws over a part of his own platform by restarting these pipelines. He can't "save" coal if he actively makes it's top competitors cheaper.
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Jan 24, 2017 20:27
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I assume the protesters will return. Godspeed 
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Jan 24, 2017 20:31
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Keystone fine, dapple bad.
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Jan 24, 2017 20:37
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Dead Reckoning posted:Time for another thread title change, perhaps? drpl: coward defeats protestor pipe
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Jan 24, 2017 21:55
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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All it took was an executive order from a president who named their inauguration "National Day of Patriotic Devotion" hmmm
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Jan 24, 2017 22:02
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Recoome posted:All it took was an executive order from a president who named their inauguration "National Day of Patriotic Devotion" hmmm Rename it to the National Pipeline of Patriotic Devotion IMO.
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Jan 24, 2017 22:43
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My Imaginary GF posted:He's also cutting at least $500 million in federal assistance to tribes. And I wouldn't be shocked if it went as tax breaks to oil companies, under his budget.
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Jan 24, 2017 22:47
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Why does redtext always tell you to put the person on ignore instead of just pointing out why a person thought spending 10 dollars on an internet thing was necessary and letting people come to their own conclusions as to whether or not putting them on ignore is necessary.
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Jan 24, 2017 22:57
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Jan 24, 2017 23:03
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Trump's statement on DAPL. It's exactly what everyone expected.
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Jan 25, 2017 00:57
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Gobbeldygook posted:Trump's statement on DAPL. It's exactly what everyone expected.
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Jan 25, 2017 01:43
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spiralbrain posted:Considering how much this benefits China, its really weird that he would not show more resistance but I guess its because he has his own investments tied up in it(?) How exactly are those supposed to work with his "blind" trust and having his kids taking over his empire? I mean, if he still has money in this, isn't their even a potential Conflict of Interest? But even if there is lol at the idea of it being pursued.
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Jan 25, 2017 03:07
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Nucleic Acids posted:How exactly are those supposed to work with his "blind" trust and having his kids taking over his empire? I mean, if he still has money in this, isn't their even a potential Conflict of Interest? IIRC he hasn't actually done either, from a legal standpoint. He just kind of made a bunch of noise about doing it then let it slide under the radar.
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Nucleic Acids posted:How exactly are those supposed to work with his "blind" trust and having his kids taking over his empire? I mean, if he still has money in this, isn't their even a potential Conflict of Interest? There is no blind trust and his kids aren't taking over his empire. He's said he's transferring operations to them, but there is nothing legally binding about this and lol if you think the Egotistical Micromanager-in-Chief will actually let anything go. More to the point, he's keeping ownership of the companies, so what profits them profits him.
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Liquid Communism posted:IIRC he hasn't actually done either, from a legal standpoint. He just kind of made a bunch of noise about doing it then let it slide under the radar. I'm not really exaggerating. Look it up.
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Jan 25, 2017 03:29
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Who would win: 1,000 Native Americans or 1 rich white man?
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Jan 25, 2017 03:40
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DeusExMachinima posted:Who would win: 1,000 Native Americans or 1 rich white man? Uh, that doesn't sound very fair. Up the number of native Americans to a billion or so and they might have a chance.
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So this pretty much confirms that the radical American Indian Movement is going to come back right? Because that, and cutting aid and ignoring them in every other way is pretty much historically proven to always result in Native people resisting the government in hardcore ways.
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Jan 25, 2017 05:59
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Maybe Obama refused to Free Leonard Peltier because he wanted the people to rise up
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Jan 25, 2017 06:17
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coyo7e posted:IIRC his statement was "I'm the president. There's a special magic law for me - just me, and only me - which means I am not capable of having conflucts of interest because - I hate to repeat myself here - I am THE PRESIDENT." To be fair, that's basically correct, legally speaking. 
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Jan 25, 2017 07:06
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KiteAuraan posted:So this pretty much confirms that the radical American Indian Movement is going to come back right? Because that, and cutting aid and ignoring them in every other way is pretty much historically proven to always result in Native people resisting the government in hardcore ways. In the eyes of the legislative majorities of Minnesota, North Dakota, and South Dakota, the radical American Indian movements have always been there, just waiting to take advantage of government.
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Jan 25, 2017 08:08
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Nucleic Acids posted:How exactly are those supposed to work with his "blind" trust and having his kids taking over his empire? I mean, if he still has money in this, isn't their even a potential Conflict of Interest? Regardless, isnt it still a conflict of interest if hes out entirely and his children are benefiting from it??
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spiralbrain posted:Regardless, isnt it still a conflict of interest if hes out entirely and his children are benefiting from it?? Yeah, but it's probably not illegal. The main check on the power of the president has always been the Congress and the voting public, and welp...
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Jan 25, 2017 20:32
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Dead Reckoning posted:Yeah, but it's probably not illegal. The main check on the power of the president has always been the Congress and the voting public, and welp... ..and welp, the republican half of congress has gone in whole-hog and they're gleefully following his lead by attacking any and all checks and balances
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So a video has been circulating around Facebook alleging that the encampment is getting buzzed by unmarked aircraft with their lights off at night, and even that they've been getting cropdusted. Now, I'm reflexively skeptical of claims about mystery cropdusting when they come via my vaccine-truther family members, but has anyone else heard similar claims? I know that with DAPL moving forward things are going to get nastier at the encampments in the not-too-distant future.
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Quorum posted:So a video has been circulating around Facebook alleging that the encampment is getting buzzed by unmarked aircraft with their lights off at night, and even that they've been getting cropdusted. Now, I'm reflexively skeptical of claims about mystery cropdusting when they come via my vaccine-truther family members, but has anyone else heard similar claims? I know that with DAPL moving forward things are going to get nastier at the encampments in the not-too-distant future. Since the airspace is still presumably closed, whatever it is must be "legal."
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I assume since the camp is not literally on top of the land the pipeline is going to be built on--or because 99% is done already--then won't the contest be protestors deploying from their camp to try to get onto the construction site versus police trying to hold the line and keep them out? Didn't the camps already get told to move once and then blockaded before the governor (IIRC) rescinded that plan?
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Jan 27, 2017 23:30
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Has construction actually resumed?
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Quorum posted:So a video has been circulating around Facebook alleging that the encampment is getting buzzed by unmarked aircraft with their lights off at night, and even that they've been getting cropdusted. Now, I'm reflexively skeptical of claims about mystery cropdusting when they come via my vaccine-truther family members, but has anyone else heard similar claims? I know that with DAPL moving forward things are going to get nastier at the encampments in the not-too-distant future. We were definitely never crop-dusted with anything during my time there, but there was at least one unmarked airplane circling low over the camp at all times, 24/7. At night they all fly with running lights off. You get used to the noise eventually. Nebalebadingdong posted:Has construction actually resumed? No. Legal issues aside, it's January and they're in North Dakota. DeusExMachinima posted:I assume since the camp is not literally on top of the land the pipeline is going to be built on--or because 99% is done already--then won't the contest be protestors deploying from their camp to try to get onto the construction site versus police trying to hold the line and keep them out? Didn't the camps already get told to move once and then blockaded before the governor (IIRC) rescinded that plan? That's exactly how things have been going for the last few months; there was a camp blocking the actual site, but it was cleared a long time ago, and the current camps are over a mile away from the construction site. Most of the actions that got press were either attempts to reach the construction site, or attempts to clear the bridge to Fargo.
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coyo7e posted:..and welp, the republican half of congress has gone in whole-hog and they're gleefully following his lead by attacking any and all checks and balances Speaking of this in the Dakotas specifically, the SD legislature is trying to declare a State of Emergency in order to get an immediate repeal on an anti-corruption law that passed as a ballot referendum. Normally such a repeal would be subject to another referendum. They also want to add a bill that doubles the required signatures to get a referendum on the ballot.
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Is anyone there right now? What's the thoughts on the future of this on the ground?
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Mister Bates posted:We were definitely never crop-dusted with anything during my time there, but there was at least one unmarked airplane circling low over the camp at all times, 24/7. At night they all fly with running lights off. You get used to the noise eventually. "Clear the bridge to Fargo." Do you mean Bismarck?
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If you go far enough... Don't ALL bridges lead to Fargo, truly in the end? 
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spiralbrain posted:Regardless, isnt it still a conflict of interest if hes out entirely and his children are benefiting from it?? Actually, if Kushner is part of the White House, that might make it more of a conflict of interest than if it was just Donald running things directly.
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