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LiterallyTheWurst
Feb 5, 2015

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I have an old boss who runs a local history blog called the first scout. He posted a tongue in cheek entry regarding historical sites in the area of the pipeline and the ND Historical Society warned him to edit his post or risk violating state law. I'll try to find it later, but the review of the history at that construction site was rather lousy. It had no experts weighing in and was missing some pieces.

And is it just me, or has NPR's reporting on the topic been spectacularly bad?

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LiterallyTheWurst
Feb 5, 2015

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Tias posted:

Regarding the pipeline itself, I'm not sure. As Pellisworth says, it's such a remote location that directly participating in the blockade is impossible for most of us.

I've seen a few donation links being shared in my Facebook feed. I can't speak to this first one and whether it is legit. It is reportedly a legal Defense fund for the sacred stone camp.
https://fundrazr.com/d19fAf

This gofundme for the camp has been around for months, and I've heard no complaints from Facebook friends.
https://www.gofundme.com/sacredstonecamp

If you're going to donate items, they have a page with requested items http://sacredstonecamp.org/supply-list/.
Cold weather gear is a big one, there are several out of state protestors at the camp who don't know what they're getting into.

LiterallyTheWurst
Feb 5, 2015

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I'm still trying to find some verification for the pictures, but I'm hearing that a woman's arm was mangled by a concussive grenade. The pictures are especially gorey, and I've seen them circulated on my friends' Facebook pages back home. There's a gofundme page for the victim, but I'll wait to share it until I can get some more sources for it.

LiterallyTheWurst
Feb 5, 2015

Sendik's Original
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-dakota-access-pipeline-protests-20161121-story.html



Sophia Wilansky's injury didn't appear on the list of casualties published by camp medics, so I was reluctant to share this initially. It sounds like she will need an amputation after being hit by a concussive grenade. There's a gofundme page for her medical bills below, and it looks like she received plenty of funding already.

https://www.gofundme.com/30aezxs

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I heard rumors that he governor's office was at a complete loss on how to handle the protest. One meeting was nothing but Dalrymple's staff complaining about the protest and talking in circles. No one had any ideas on how to proceed in the summer. I haven't heard of anything new there, but it appears that North Dakota is trying to sell these protests as threats to public safety. I received an emergency notification on my phone that a protest was taking place in Bismarck, for example. The police actions on 11/19 are probably not going to be the worst of the year.

LiterallyTheWurst
Feb 5, 2015

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Not only would it be impossible to arrest thousands, it would be impossible to hold everyone in cells and prosecute them. ND was already struggling with its finances thanks to free market fuckwits, crashing oil prices, and huge infrastructure costs. The ND state bank has loaned out 10 million dollars to ND law enforcement due to the protest, and that number will keep rising.

LiterallyTheWurst
Feb 5, 2015

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The IED factory can be found at Tipi #7, just past the Dress Barn and opposite the Kroll's Kitchen. ND journalists are notorious for not rocking the boat, so I expect this IED claim will be published and taken at face value by most ND residents.
Every post that I have found regarding this woman had referred to a concussion grenade, not tear gas or smoke. These things are meant to explode in a controlled fashion that makes a loud noise. It was a SWAT concussion grenade that seriously injured a toddler a few years ago.

One poster suggest that the police should try to seal protestors in an area away from construction. That is what led to the events in 11/19. The police had some burned out military vehicles blocking access to a previously occupied site, and the protestors attempted to open up the road. Ultimately, the police are going to clash with protestors if they oppose and delay the pipeline. There is no way around that.

Finally, anyone that is puzzled by the seeming lack of Lakota opposition to this pipeline should have a look at the fight against drilling at Killdeer Mountain. It's a sacred site to the Lakota and the location of a massive battle between the US Army and the Lakota following the massacres in Minnesota. The opposition did everything by the book, but drilling was approved there because delaying the drilling "would leave 3.5 million barrels of oil and waste $250 million." I guess Bakken Shale has an expiration date. Drilling was allowed to happen right over a site that had yielded some interesting artifacts in a survey. But no worries, Dalrymple and friends asked the company to haul fill dirt to the site rather than dig it from that very spot.
http://m.bismarcktribune.com/bakken...19bb2963f4.html
Of course, Dalrymple took hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from oil and is allowed to move those directly to his bank account with no oversight. ND politics are sleazy as hell and ND citizens are extremely racist. This protest was the best option available for Standing Rock.

LiterallyTheWurst fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Nov 23, 2016

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LiterallyTheWurst
Feb 5, 2015

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DeusExMachinima posted:

Dare I even ask how they got burned out in the first place?
The vehicles were burned during a protest in October.
http://www.inforum.com/news/north-dakota/4146976-clash-near-cannon-ball-subsides-protesters-law-enforcement-report
I wish I had a better play by play of 11/19, but this article does mention that some protesters tried to remove those burned vehicles from the road.
http://www.inforum.com/news/4163612-26-dapl-protesters-seriously-injured-tense-standoff-police

The police are saying they saw 3 people hiding with propane tanks, an explosion went off near those people, and one was carried away. Of course, the police also claimed to hear protestors say, "We are willing to die for this,” and “We get paid for this.”
The camp said that shrapnel from the woman's wound was recovered and saved. We might be able to get a clear answer from the shrapnel. http://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Propane-cylinders-recovered-at-explosion-site-of-DAPL-protest-402544435.html

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