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Op you've made a lot of threads in the past few days. I'm going to have to probate you for six hours.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 23:15 |
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# ? May 5, 2024 13:20 |
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good if you delete the racist stuff which is precisely what we do with every classic american folk song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73irL7Lo4bE
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 23:15 |
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Lovecraft writes like Dr. Strange talks.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 23:24 |
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LegoPirateNinja posted:good if you delete the racist stuff which is precisely what we do with every classic american folk song Yeah Ghostbusters caught his rear end, no worries now. I like the one where they go on the devil's gameshow. Also Samhain was the best villain of theirs.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 23:45 |
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Lovecraft believed that all lives matter
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 23:46 |
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Isn't the horror of Lovecraft the keen knowledge that life is utterly, absurdly meaningless and the universe is not only apathetic, but indirectly fatal to all those who dare plumb its secrets?
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 23:53 |
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Hewlett Packard Lovecraft
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 23:59 |
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i got a dead dreaming eldergod tentacle you can rouse from its millenia of slumber, OP
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 00:01 |
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hth posted:i got a dead dreaming eldergod tentacle you can rouse from its millenia of slumber, OP And with strange Viagra, even death may die?
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 00:04 |
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FilthyImp posted:Lovecraft writes like Dr. Strange talks. That's not exactly incidental.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 00:26 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:For those who hate Lovecraft, you should read the Dream Cycle or whatever it is. I think it's probably his most seminal work in a lot of ways--it's basically a straightforward fantasy adventure but it feels the most "personal" of his works. It's about him, and how he sees things, and it's got so much fantastic imagery, it's something that begs for a great big budget adaptation. yeah. pretty much. the dude was a weird neet from a white as gently caress, rich new england family and was basicaly a weird neet. I doubt he ever met a minority apart from his jewis/half jewish wife(?) . most of his racist stuff strikes me as hosed up stuff from the time period and that fact that he lived in whitey ville and never left and was afraid of everything. it doesnt exactly excuse it. but listing to wannabe tumblr dipshits try to co-opt and steal his poo poo annoyes me because the talentless fucks cant even be original. loving parasites. natetimm posted:Was coming in here to post this about Howard. I think he's my favorite pulp author and he's also a prototypical goon. Borneo Jimmy posted:Robert E Howard and Clark Ashton Smith were better stylists imo. yeah i love howard, and he doesnt have as much racist baggage as lovecraft. (apart from the usual early 20th centry pulp lit race stuff and being a southener in the 20-30s.) http://www.jasonsanford.com/jason/2010/09/20/robert-howard-racist also hmm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_of_Robert_E._Howard he was a feminist too. cool. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Sep 7, 2016 |
# ? Sep 7, 2016 00:47 |
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Lovecraft had it out for the Puritans too. One story has a puritan who ends up being a cannibal. The moral of the story was those who are that uptight and strange have dark secrets. He also told his wife something to the effect of "I hate all Jews but you". EDIT: Also S.T. Joshi is a good source if you want to know about Lovecraft. rocket_man38 fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Sep 7, 2016 |
# ? Sep 7, 2016 00:48 |
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rocket_man38 posted:Lovecraft had it out for the Puritans too. One story has a puritan who ends up being a cannibal. The moral of the story was those who are that uptight and strange have dark secrets. He also told his wife something to the effect of "I hate all Jews but you". The fact that H.P. Lovecraft was pathologically anti-Semitic yet ended up marrying a Jew really tells you all you need to know about him.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:24 |
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Depends how racist you are I'm
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:25 |
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Professor Shark posted:Bad Author, great Ideas Guy
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:29 |
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i always liked lovecraft because he kind of presented an empirical approach to the crazyness of his stories. the protagonists are professors or anthropologists or lesser sons of greater families. all well worded and rational, all approaching the nonsense with the skepticism of the disbeliever. thats a weird take, even in 2016
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:31 |
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Yes, absolutely and unequivocally. His ability to paint the weird and creepy imagery in your mind with his words is cool.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:32 |
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Cnut the Great posted:The fact that H.P. Lovecraft was pathologically anti-Semitic yet ended up marrying a Jew really tells you all you need to know about him. That pussy game was eldritch. Sp1r0_Agn3W posted:i always liked lovecraft because he kind of presented an empirical approach to the crazyness of his stories. the protagonists are professors or anthropologists or lesser sons of greater families. all well worded and rational, all approaching the nonsense with the skepticism of the disbeliever. thats a weird take, even in 2016 What's really great, and largely ignored by the knee-jerk reactionaries, is that Lovecraft lived at the dawn of the true scientific age. Science had been relegated to sideshows from the Victorian age onwards and even as technology progressed, it wasn't until the 20th century that common people really started to get wise to science, the journeys of discovery, etc. There was a ton of optimism in that age, notions that electric power would cure all ills, flying cars, instantaneous communications--at the start of the 1900's people were keenly aware that technology was going to rapidly advance and everyone was really gung ho. It's an age of intellectualism. God may be dead, but by the light of intelligence and the scientific empiricism, ye shall be as gods. That's where Lovecraft's take comes in. The march of science, shining a light into the darkness, reveals not progress, hope or any solutions at all--only a jibbering madness, a stupidity so acute it was fatal, a chaos so pervasive that to even be made aware of its presence was to succumb to it. God is dead. Man is an insect. The universe is vast, dark, and in the shadows of the stars and the furthest reaches of the Earth, horror lurked.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:38 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. pretty much. the dude was a weird neet from a white as gently caress, rich new england family and was basicaly a weird neet. I doubt he ever met a minority apart from his jewis/half jewish wife(?) . most of his racist stuff strikes me as hosed up stuff from the time period and that fact that he lived in whitey ville and never left and was afraid of everything. it doesnt exactly excuse it. but listing to wannabe tumblr dipshits try to co-opt and steal his poo poo annoyes me because the talentless fucks cant even be original. loving parasites. HPL wasn't exactly a shut in, he lived in New York for a couple of years and traveled extensively around New England on the cheap. He was definitely pretty unsociable but then again, he had a circle of friend writers in NYC and a gigantic correspondence. In many ways his behavior wasn't much different from many internet weirdoes today. Sp1r0_Agn3W posted:i always liked lovecraft because he kind of presented an empirical approach to the crazyness of his stories. the protagonists are professors or anthropologists or lesser sons of greater families. all well worded and rational, all approaching the nonsense with the skepticism of the disbeliever. thats a weird take, even in 2016 Yeah this is the real genius of Lovecraft and why he continues to be relevant. He himself was obsessively materialist rationalist atheist type who scorned all superstition and mysticism, but all his stories are about how the only thing science can teach us is that we are misshapen blobs of primordial ooze sloshing about in a merciless empty universe. As a result his stories have thematically aged a lot better than contemporary writers who figured science would turn us into the overman in a flying car. Also he wrote this which is pretty funny: quote:As for the Republicans—how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical ‘American heritage’…) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:46 |
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:49 |
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Lovecraft's work is better and more unsettling because of the way that his racism oozes through the prose.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:50 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:What's really great, and largely ignored by the knee-jerk reactionaries, is that Lovecraft lived at the dawn of the true scientific age. Science had been relegated to sideshows from the Victorian age onwards and even as technology progressed, it wasn't until the 20th century that common people really started to get wise to science, the journeys of discovery, etc. There was a ton of optimism in that age, notions that electric power would cure all ills, flying cars, instantaneous communications--at the start of the 1900's people were keenly aware that technology was going to rapidly advance and everyone was really gung ho. It's an age of intellectualism. God may be dead, but by the light of intelligence and the scientific empiricism, ye shall be as gods. this is kind of a digression, but you raise an interesting point. lovecraft was particularly focused on anthropology, and theres a reason he uses it the way he does. today anthropology is a super soft lib arts subject, but in like 30 some odd years leading up to lovecrafts heyday, it was a really ivy league, armchair discipline. as a result of this, it was like the main scientific driver of race relations and eugenics. it was super erudite and exclusive (at least to those on the inside), and its not weird at all he latched onto it. edward tylor and herny lewis morgan are some okay examples of the eraly thoughts. see also, phrenology
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:55 |
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Good Lovecraft is good. Bad Lovecraft is August Derleth. Good Lovecraft is Charles Stross, although he's more a mix of science fiction, humor, and Lovecraftian horror in the setting of the British civil service.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:56 |
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:56 |
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all i know about lovecraft for a fact is that the case of charles dexter ward is too god damned long
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:57 |
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One of my favorite stories by Lovecraft is "In the Walls of Eryx" which is about a smug rear end colonialist who goes on an expedition to Venus to rob the local savages of their crystals and poo poo, but it turns out the savages are probably a lot smarter than the white man and he freaks the gently caress out and dies in despair, urging people not to mess with Darkest Venus Then the colonial company finds his body and is like "the savages must have done this, time to go all King Leopold on a motherfucker"
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:57 |
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He was a bad author but he had some novel ideas and on the plus side he was racist.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 01:58 |
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skasion posted:One of my favorite stories by Lovecraft is "In the Walls of Eryx" which is about a smug rear end colonialist who goes on an expedition to Venus to rob the local savages of their crystals and poo poo, but it turns out the savages are probably a lot smarter than the white man and he freaks the gently caress out and dies in despair, urging people not to mess with Darkest Venus Was that the one with the maze with invisible walls?
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:02 |
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GRANNYS PEACH TEA posted:Was that the one with the maze with invisible walls? Yea
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:24 |
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He's OK, but he's no H.P. Hovercraft.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:28 |
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The dude was actively scared of air conditioners. His writing style is overly technical but his idea are cool.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:29 |
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Cnut the Great posted:The fact that H.P. Lovecraft was pathologically anti-Semitic yet ended up marrying a Jew really tells you all you need to know about him. He really just hated everyone who wasn't in his circle, and even then outside of Howard and Smith he probably barely tolerated the rest.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:31 |
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No op
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:32 |
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Cnut the Great posted:The fact that H.P. Lovecraft was pathologically anti-Semitic yet ended up marrying a Jew really tells you all you need to know about him. joobs own
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:32 |
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Here's my opinion on Lovecraft: My favorite Lovecraft inspired work is John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness, universally hated by Lovecraft diehards for not being Lovecraftian enough.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:36 |
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quote:I ate about 3:30—if slipping these wretched food tablets through my mask can be called eating. Soon after that I noticed a decided change in the landscape—the bright, poisonous-looking flowers shifting in colour and getting wraith-like. The outlines of everything shimmered rhythmically, and bright points of light appeared and danced in the same slow, steady tempo. After that the temperature seemed to fluctuate in unison with a peculiar rhythmic drumming. --H. P. "Tha Chronic" Lovecraft
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:40 |
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i wish i was a lovecraft protagonist
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:43 |
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my life would be so dope
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 02:44 |
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Sp1r0_Agn3W posted:i wish i was a lovecraft protagonist We are all Lovecraft protagonists
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I think everyone goes into Lovecraft thinking "everyone was racist back then " and then a few pages in realises "Jesus Christ, Howard, what the gently caress man"
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