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 every fuckin year they ask themselves the same question how dumb is our userbase so far the sky is the limit. android is empirically better in almost every way and apple is still wildly popular with the DUI set. Go figure.
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I fully expect they'll announce in a years time a version with headphone jack reincluded
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935 posted:
Nerds often forget that speakers, microphones, and your ears are all "analog" so the whole analog VS digital thing is a bunch of silly horse poo poo
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Sep 8, 2016 20:36
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I mean why take away an option to use something my old Galaxy S5 already can use wireless headphones, if I wanted that
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Sep 8, 2016 20:36
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Monkey Fracas posted:I mean why take away an option to use something my old s5 has a battery extender and removable storage built into it. why the gently caress would i want to 'upgrade' to something that doesn't allow me both of those features
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Sep 8, 2016 20:41
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hth posted:
My lord 
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hth posted:my old s5 has a battery extender and removable storage built into it. why the gently caress would i want to 'upgrade' to something that doesn't allow me both of those features I really do not want to let go of expandable storage and battery swapping, yeah as of now it runs everything perfectly fine too so I may just buy another one when it dies unless it just can't run stuff quickly enough I got rid of my last phone because it would take it like 20 seconds to boot into gmail and had real issues running Maps and that was kind of it for the Droid HD Maxx thing had a pretty great battery life, though
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If you're talking about low bars Apple just needs to make a phone that doesn't explode during use
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I bought one of these ages ago its nice b/c I can use whatever set of headphones I want adn never have cords running to the phone. soon after I got it the shirt clip failed, which was a blessing in disguise I now hang it on a lanyard around my neck, right at about heart level, inside my shirt, outside my t-shirt earbids are plugged in and run under my left shoulder up my back, out the back of my collar and dangle on my chest - just long enough that I can tuck them into a shirt pocket when not in use they go for ~10 hours on a charge, easy real good BT range, too. I can be out doing yardwork or washing the car etc. for hours without worrying about damaging my phone - mostly because its sitting safely out of harm's reach 20+ yards away the only thing I don't like about them is the volume control. its touch sensitive, and has a tendency to go to full or min volume if it comes into contact with a sweaty shirt. Some sort of volume lock would be gold. in short : lol @ Apple for coming up with a $170 solution to a $40 problem e : aaaaaa fucktypos buttcrackmenace fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Sep 8, 2016 20:48
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I can still plug my Sennheisers in my android, and I don't give a poo poo when a new version of my phone comes out.
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Sep 8, 2016 20:54
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Well by removing it they were able to make the phone thinner. Oh wait no they didn't. Well they had to remove it to make it waterproof. Oh wait no they didn't tons of phones have them and are waterproof. Well then they had to remove them to make money off their ugly Bluetooth earrings. Wait yes that actually probably is it.
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Sep 8, 2016 20:56
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unpacked robinhood posted:Did they to justify the proprietary Bluetooth ? Its pretty nice being able to pair with a car or a stereo and blast your rad thunes. The justification is "you will purchase adaptors when you are told because you cannot stop yourself and we know it. Giveth unto us and we will allow you to consume as it is written so shall it be."
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Aeka 2.0 posted:I can still plug my Sennheisers in my android, and I don't give a poo poo when a new version of my phone comes out. Same 
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Aeka 2.0 posted:I can still plug my Sennheisers in my android, and I don't give a poo poo when a new version of my phone comes out. smartphone makers are desperately struggling to include something that justifies purchasing a new phone that for most intents and purposes is the same piece of shiny obsidian you had before the newer Samsung Galaxy and Note phones have little weird rounded touchscreen extension edges because... different It's New; Buy It
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RedMage129 posted:The justification is "you will purchase adaptors when you are told because you cannot stop yourself and we know it. Giveth unto us and we will allow you to consume as it is written so shall it be." Calling it now - next to go will be the volume buttons. Who needs physical buttons when you can use the on screen display? Say goodbye to the power button and silent switch too, they don't fit with the seamless aesthetic Apple is aiming for. Pundits will trip over each other to be first to remind you the uproar when Apple released a phone without a physical keyboard.
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Sep 8, 2016 21:12
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They should pay their tax bill before trying to look all cool and ask us for more money 
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If you buy a phone without an SD card you are trash.
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The justification was the shrinking sales of smartphones. Their team sat around examining where they could make up the profit, and noticed that they are spending money putting an open and unlicensable connector in their product. They noticed that they aren't making any money on headphones despite paying for a manufacturing contract. Most iPhone users use the freebies they got in the box until they break and then usually buy another company's headphones. How much money are these other companies making, and why aren't those companies forced to pay Apple for manufacturing their product for use with an iPhone? Simple solution to all of this - make those other headphone manufacturers pay a licensing fee to Apple to use the lightning connector. Alternatively, the customer can use an adapter. Include one with the phone which will break or be lost eventually and must be replaced with another made by Apple. The key is nothing can be connected to that phone that isn't an Apple product or a licensed product. And heck let's make an encrypted bluetooth channel using the existing antenna so we can sell proprietary wireless headphones too. I think it was smart as hell on Apple's part.
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buttcrackmenace posted:in short : lol @ Apple for coming up with a $170 solution to a $40 problem to be fair, that's like their business model basically Danger Mahoney posted:I think it was smart as hell on Apple's part. Idk if you want to see how "annoy the user in order to nickel and dime them in the pettiest ways" as a business strategy works I think you should see how video game companies who do the same end up murdering established well liked IPs which also had rabid fanbases. They should make their core product better instead of just playing catch up with features like water resistance that other phones have had for years at this point. They're selling a premium phone at a premium price and built a huge following around that and now they're shooting the premium phone thing in the foot thinking their brand name will carry them forever but it won't. At one point I feel like the iPhone was legit better for the average user. It was slick. It just worked. It wasn't fiddly. Now it's some bullshit where they tell you "just hold it different lmao" when the antenna doesn't work. They had a revolutionary product with the iPod. They arguably had a revolutionary product in the iPhone (yeah the tech existed already but they put it together in a slick way and marketed it well). What the gently caress do they have now? A watch??? Decebal posted:They should pay their tax bill before trying to look all cool and ask us for more money e: and in effort to protect that brand image they continue shooting themselves in the foot in China by refusing to release a cheaper version of the phone with some cheaper casing or whatever to actually break into the market with because "that would gently caress up our branding." Cool dudes you guys are gonna miss out on a massive market then  ee: just to drive the point home cuz im a cvck http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-consumers-see-homegrown-features-in-apples-iphone-7-1473302030 posted:In China, Apple has fallen to fifth place in smartphone sales as Chinese makers have raised their game, offering feature-rich devices for lower prices. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Decebal posted:All that's poo poo now Unless you managed to hang onto it, and in that case it is decidedly not poo poo: http://time.com/money/4327764/apple-vintage-ipods-value-ebay/ Last time I checked, the results didn't line up with the cherry picked examples, but I thought it was amazing that anyone would be pining for a gen 1 click wheel enough to drop 4 figures.
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I've been an iphone user for years. I also use the included headphones a lot because I make a lot of calls to clients and people I know personally when I'm on the road, and it's a lot easier to do that with headphones. Plus calls sound clearer in stereo. No way in hell I'm getting the new iphone. Not being able to charge the phone while I'm on a call that could last hours is a deal breaker for me, especially down the road when the phone' s battery loses a bunch of capacity and I still need to be on the phone and use GPS at the same time. Switching to Android has never been an easier choice than it is right now.
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texasmed posted:headphone jacks are for analog scrubs. *Gently lifts tone arm from vinyl record* the gently caress you just say to me?
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GreatGreen posted:I've been an iphone user for years. I also use the included headphones a lot because I make a lot of calls to clients and people I know personally when I'm on the road, and it's a lot easier to do that with headphones. Plus calls sound clearer in stereo. you better be careful, all the iphone users in the last apple thread said they didn't want to spend ten hours flashing ROMs and using boot images to use their phone. Android is apparently the most complicated thing ever.
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Rufus T. Turnbuckle posted:*Gently lifts tone arm from vinyl record* hey check it out an audiophile who cant hear things correctly im shocked
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hth posted:hey check it out an audiophile who cant hear things correctly 
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if your phone isnt like 5 years old and cracked youre an rear end in a top hat
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* Makes anti-consumer moves in order to satisfy shareholders * * Markets revolt, share price plunges *
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Haverchuck posted:if your phone isnt like 5 years old and cracked youre not poor
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ahh the yospos gambit
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Haverchuck posted:if your phone isnt like 5 years old and cracked youre an rear end in a top hat If you walk around with a cracked phone you're trash.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:you better be careful, all the iphone users in the last apple thread said they didn't want to spend ten hours flashing ROMs and using boot images to use their phone. Android is apparently the most complicated thing ever. lol
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I have absolutely no problem selling overpriced accessories to people willing to pay 20 times more for some weird rear end connector that has ABSOLUTELY NO ADVANTAGES compared to a no name brand handsfree with a jack for 1,49 €. (they come in white too)
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Sep 8, 2016 22:29
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feeling better all the time about my decision to just get an SE to replace my 5 and I'm honestly expecting my next phone to be an android
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GreatGreen posted:I've been an iphone user for years. I also use the included headphones a lot because I make a lot of calls to clients and people I know personally when I'm on the road, and it's a lot easier to do that with headphones. Plus calls sound clearer in stereo. You use your phone weird / illegally and you can buy a generic Bluetooth hands free kit for  on amazon.
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Sep 8, 2016 22:33
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I don't think that's illegal? Also if you're talking with clients for hours I can see wanting some crisper audio versus the car speakers and stuff.
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Marv Hushman posted:Unless you managed to hang onto it, and in that case it is decidedly not poo poo: uuuhhh there's a box in my parent's house in my old room worth a serious % of my yearly salary lmao.
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Sep 8, 2016 22:38
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I've got like 7 ipods and they all work jsut fine...
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Moridin920 posted:I don't think that's illegal? Yeah I've never liked bluetooth car audio integration. There's never any high frequencies so calls are always really muffled sounding and every other thing out of your mouth is "what? I'm sorry what was that again?" and the volume/dynamic range is terrible so you either can't hear calls at all or they're blasting you out of the car. Headphones are better in that one specific, yet valid, instance I think.
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If you even use a phone you're trash.
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a bone to pick posted:If you even use a phone you're trash.
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