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Cruel and Unusual posted:If I remember correctly the 2000 Ravens were merely good at pass defense, but are far and away the best run defense ever. Whereas the 2002 Bucs were better against the pass. The Bucs front 7 was god tier.
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Ross Angeles posted:I think the 2002 Bucs defense gets kind of overshadowed by the 00 Raven's since they were so close together Yes, but also being Tampa in general. Small, mostly irrelevant market no one talks about unless they have to.
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A Pale Horse posted:Yes, but also being Tampa in general. Small, mostly irrelevant market no one talks about unless they have to. God, it's so true. I was actually secretly thrilled about this thread's title/poll change because Tampa almost never gets talked about. E: VVV Favre v Sapp was amazing. I miss the "Battle of the Bays" games. WampaLord fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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A Pale Horse posted:Yes, but also being Tampa in general. Small, mostly irrelevant market no one talks about unless they have to. My favorite NFC games back before realignment were always Tampa and Green Bay. Favre vs. Sapp was always super fun to watch
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WampaLord posted:God, it's so true. I was actually secretly thrilled about this thread's title/poll change because Tampa almost never gets talked about. To be fair, we've been complete poo poo for the better part of a decade now, but even in the brief 6-7 year period where we were competitive and relevant I can remember being pissed off because I'd tune into the NFL Gameday (or whatever the equivalent was in the late 90s, early 2000s) and they'd spend two minutes on the Bucs and 15 on the loving Cowboys or Steelers.
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Ross Angeles posted:My favorite NFC games back before realignment were always Tampa and Green Bay. Favre vs. Sapp was always super fun to watch I loved Warren so drat much. He's the only player I've ever bought a licensed Jersey of. Those battle of the bays games owned bones.
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All this talk of the 02 Bucs makes me so happy. It was such a great time and I don't think I've ever been more excited in my life than when Ronde picked off McNabb. I think I ran through a wall.
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wandler20 posted:All this talk of the 02 Bucs makes me so happy. It was such a great time and I don't think I've ever been more excited in my life than when Ronde picked off McNabb. I think I ran through a wall. I was born near Tampa and I had never seen our city celebrate a huge victory before that year. It was loving magical.
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That 2002 Bucs team was awesome defensively (obviously), but Brad Johnson is kind of underrated. He gets lumped in with Dilfer, but was a VASTLY better player. He was #3 in passer rating, #5 in adjusted net yards per attempt, #6 in completion %, #8 in yards/game and #9 in touchdowns in 2002. And people forget that Tampa's run game that year was trash pure (#27 in yards, #28 in yards/attempt and #31 in rushing touchdowns) so they were a pass-first team you didn't have to respect the run for... but he still threw picks at the lowest rate of anybody in football. He wasn't a superstar but he was Actually Good.
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A Pale Horse posted:Yes, but also being Tampa in general. Small, mostly irrelevant market no one talks about unless they have to.
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sean10mm posted:That 2002 Bucs team was awesome defensively (obviously), but Brad Johnson is kind of underrated. He gets lumped in with Dilfer, but was a VASTLY better player.
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sean10mm posted:That 2002 Bucs team was awesome defensively (obviously), but Brad Johnson is kind of underrated. He gets lumped in with Dilfer, but was a VASTLY better player. And Michael Pittman had the game of his career in the SB because yeah, he was complete trash all year.
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sam bradford lmao posted:Yeah it took a while for him to get the hang of the offense, but when he did, he basically became Tampa's answer to Rich Gannon. I don't remember what week it was but it finally all clicked when he played the Vikings. I used to have a big man crush on the Brad Johnson led Washington team. Him, Stephen Davis, Michael Westbrook...all super cool until Westbrook beat the poo poo out of Davis in practice. wandler20 posted:And Michael Pittman had the game of his career in the SB because yeah, he was complete trash all year. There's a name I haven't thought of in a while. Wasn't he on the same all steroids Cardinals team with David Boston? Those arms!!!
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Chromatic posted:Smith was dealing the last half of that game. Found proof! https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/775853594281070592 https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/775724638131351552 https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/775553321062928384 https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/775901381282574336 https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/775851139279446020 https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/775841520297521152 Bonus https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/775745816904380416 http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/9/14/12909384/alex-smith-all-22-review-vs-chargers-who-is-this-guy Chromatic fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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"Deep ball"
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Shath Hole posted:There's a name I haven't thought of in a while. Wasn't he on the same all steroids Cardinals team with David Boston? 
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commy gun posted:Eh, Brad Johnson was average. At worst back up quality. Dilfer and Manning flirted between being liabilities and non factors in the post season. A Pale Horse posted:Yes, but also being Tampa in general. Small, mostly irrelevant market no one talks about unless they have to.
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They didn't win it all, but the 2000 Titans don't get enough love. #1 against the pass, #3 against the run and they allowed fewer yards per game than the Ravens did (238!). I would imagine they win the Super Bowl if not for a certain blocked field goal return.
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hifi posted:Who cares but pats fans are forever bitches for leaving early and crying to be let back in after ryan williams fumbled only to watch their team miss a FG back in 2012 nah that wasn't as bad as 2013 when people started leaving and then tom brady found KENBRELL in the endzone with 0:03 seconds left against the saints that also spawned one of the greatest radio calls of all time, though. WHERE'S THE BEEF?
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Poonerman posted:They didn't win it all, but the 2000 Titans don't get enough love. #1 against the pass, #3 against the run and they allowed fewer yards per game than the Ravens did (238!). I would imagine they win the Super Bowl if not for a certain blocked field goal return. In a bizarrely close case of one-upsmanship, might I submit the 2008 Steelers - #1 against the pass, #2 against the run, 237 yards allowed per game... and did win the Super Bowl.
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Chilichimp posted:Oh, but when the Saints and Falcons were the class of the NFCS... Knowing the 49ers almost single-handedly destroyed the hopes and dreams of the entire NFCS for three years running makes their recent troubles a bit more tolerable. Thanks!
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Coldforge posted:Knowing the 49ers almost single-handedly destroyed the hopes and dreams of the entire NFCS for three years running makes their recent troubles a bit more tolerable. gently caress Navarro Bowman. gently caress Mike Smith. gently caress Mike Nolan. gently caress Harry Douglas' feet. gently caress all ya'll!
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Ross Angeles posted:It seems to be a 15 year cycle. 85 Bears, 00 Ravens, 15 Broncos 2013 seahawks, 2014 sehawks,2015 seahawks, 2016 sehawks
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Blarfk posted:In a bizarrely close case of one-upsmanship, might I submit the 2008 Steelers - Fuuuuuuck Santonio Holmes.
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Ladies and gentlemen, for your viewing pleasure... your Los Angeles Rams http://i.imgur.com/uVDw5vB.mp4
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A Pale Horse posted:To be fair, we've been complete poo poo for the better part of a decade now, but even in the brief 6-7 year period where we were competitive and relevant I can remember being pissed off because I'd tune into the NFL Gameday (or whatever the equivalent was in the late 90s, early 2000s) and they'd spend two minutes on the Bucs and 15 on the loving Cowboys or Steelers. I grew up in Dallas and I just assumed that wherever you lived you had special coverage for your local team. 
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Chilichimp posted:Ladies and gentlemen, for your viewing pleasure... your Los Angeles Rams Yeah but there's a firetruck that shows up. So that's like good right?
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Chilichimp posted:Ladies and gentlemen, for your viewing pleasure... your Los Angeles Rams A giant harmonica?
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Blarfk posted:In a bizarrely close case of one-upsmanship, might I submit the 2008 Steelers - I love the Pittsburgh Steelers
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Chilichimp posted:Ladies and gentlemen, for your viewing pleasure... your Los Angeles Rams lmao what's this from?
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That Works posted:lmao what's this from? GTA:V The Seahawks are the truck that gets inexplicably owned by the Rams at home.
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:A giant harmonica? leaving St. Louis was not enough to avoid the Blues
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JRizzle posted:This has also happened with Chip Kelly. It's a really good article, but it kinda misses the point of what made Chip's offense "revolutionary" in the first place, and not just another hurry up no-huddle offense. It's designed to be a fast, simple system that is utterly predictable before the snap, but (the important part) adaptive after the snap. Kelly wanted to get rid of pre-snap adjustments, and instead have those decisions made after the snap, so the QB reacts to what the defense is actually doing, rather than what he thinks it's doing. Basically the QB is supposed to have three options: hand the ball off, throw the ball, run the ball himself. Part of why the offense got so much worse after Bradford took over, is that it took one of those post-snap options away from the QB. The other part is what the article focuses on, that defenses have started to adjust to this style.
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Poonerman posted:They didn't win it all, but the 2000 Titans don't get enough love. #1 against the pass, #3 against the run and they allowed fewer yards per game than the Ravens did (238!). I would imagine they win the Super Bowl if not for a certain blocked field goal return. Blarfk posted:In a bizarrely close case of one-upsmanship, might I submit the 2008 Steelers - And of course there is the 1991 Eagles, #1 against the pass, #1 against the run... and didn't make the playoffs. gently caress you Bryce Paup. I hope you get NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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