8-Bit Scholar posted:

Well what would you suggest? With modern healthcare as it is, her barely functioning body will continue to suck up resources for another decade easily.

Wicker Man posted:

This is true, but more often than not, the gentle approach only works when it's coming from close friends and family; anyone else and it's through one ear and out the other. Shaming probably only gives a similar reaction. Besides, people almost always gravitate to the path of least resistance.

I think what really matters is getting a person to look inside and finally hit whatever proverbial wall gets them to finally say "Ok, enough is enough. I want to change, and this time I mean it!" It's all a question of how to get someone to that point.

LordArgh posted:

can someone explain to me what "alt-right" even means?

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

Slavery worked out pretty well for white people. Still does. Enjoy your iphone, coffee and chocolate.

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

You made a point that cruelty never solves anything and I merely reminded you that it solves every major problem in your life. Sorry your myopic understanding of the world makes you look dumb when you talk.

Wicker Man posted:

It usually sounds more like their angry because they KNOW the excuses are bullshit, and even admit as such.

runupon cracker posted:

That reads like a serious question, so I'm going to give a serious answer.

I want fat people to stop being delusional, and find success in losing weight. The "healthism" person is going to be the same going out of this thread as he came in, because shame's not going to change him. The non-delusional fatty probably isn't going to open the thread (borne out by the very few posters in here who admit their fat status), and if they do, they're not going to find much that will actually help motivate them to lose weight, and nine out of ten of them are more likely to go over to the healthism side because gently caress you, that's why.

I'm not for a second saying that shame can't ever motivate positive change. It can, but it's rare, and most people don't react to shame positively. You're much more likely to make people defensive and retreat into their poor behaviors.

If your goal is sincerely to help motivate fat people to lose weight, shame is the exact wrong way to do it. Pursuing that, despite the mountain of evidence against it, only goes towards reinforcing the idea that you (fat shamers in general, not you specifically) would much rather fat people stay fat so you have a convenient target to make fun of for your own disgusting amusement, making you no better than the regressive conservatives who want to punish women for having sex despite the totally awesome and not bullshit in any way abstinence-only education.

Tricky D posted:

All you people talking about how shame motivated you to lose weight and not be a disgusting fat anymore should read that study posted earlier this thread about how you are all full of poo poo.

Say Nothing posted:

KVeezy3 posted:

Fat people don't like how fat people look. No amount of delusion will bypass that fact. Disgust at excess bodyfat transcends all cultures and periods of time, maybe you should consider what that means rather than taking offense on behalf of all the little girls.

KVeezy3 posted:

Bald people are in relationships and get married too. Disgust at male pattern baldness is also something that transcends all cultures and times. Baldness is linked to insulin resistance, heart disease and cancer. I bet this is a coincidence too.

KVeezy3 posted:

You're on the side of someone who cites BBW porn as a victory for obesity.

Rakosi posted:

fat people disgust me because of the mentality that they have. they are gross people who demand the world bend around them rather than be flexible themselves.

actually, considering mass and gravity, they do bend more space-time than us normal people do.

LethalGeek posted:

They still bitch about it in the real world. Though the problem is they aren't making the connection with stuff like "man my back/feet always hurts" "can't sleep" *is 80lbs over weight, doesn't exercise, etc*

rap music posted:

wait lets look at the data: http://sexualitics.github.io/

only 3% of "likes" on xhampster are of videos tagged as BBW

from this you could reasonably infer that 97% of the population doesn't like looking at fat people

pretty sure that more than 3% of the population is fat so even most fat people dont like looking at fat people

LethalGeek posted:

The conversion isn't typically about how fat they are but when they're talking about a part of their life being bad that's directly linked to how fat they are. This might not be something you get out of a coworker but my fat friends say this stuff and I go "well yeah, you're overweight and that's going to make that worse" and they typically go "yeah sure" and shrug it away. The answer is staring at them in the mirror but meh can't deal with it.

Germstore posted:

Maybe he likes her personality. Maybe they are friends. I guaran-drat-tee that if she lost the extra weight he'd still be able to maintain an erection. He'd even lie to her and tell her he likes her both ways while secretly praying that she doesn't gain it back.

I bet she'd like it if he had hair. Can't grow hair with a lifestyle change tho.

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

You did not have healthy relationships modeled for you in your childhood.

Germstore posted:

which doesn't at all help the "lots of people are actual attracted to abhorrent fatties" argument, because if they are with them in spite of it they clearly aren't.

Germstore posted:

seems like a bit of a goal post move. e: I mean we've landed on some percent of people (possibly tiny) actually like fatties and everyone else with a fatty at least tolerates it. No poo poo.