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Carmant posted:It would be interesting to see what sone of the posters who were most upset about fat people existing looked like I dunno man, just from your posts I can tell you're shamelessly stupid, which gives some credence to you also being a lazy fat piece of poo poo. I am not upset about fat people, but I am always appalled that people endorse the kind of pathetic self-delusion that can require special butt wiping tools, and amputations. Die faster, and less disgustingly, TIA.
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runupon cracker posted:so where are your studies about the positive effects of shame? Or are you going to continue Rick Perrying it up? I find it makes for a good laugh on a comedy forum, and I've been told laughter is the best medicine so.. Seriously tho, if there was some way you could stop having your dignity destroyed by shaming posts, or stop jamming food in your face, it would be amazing. Too bad that is just too much effort.
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Sep 14, 2016 15:32
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Carmant posted:Agreed, you should set the example to be a good kind person who doesn't bully others to your kid. I love the idea that somehow "being good and kind" means any criticism of self harming behavior is bullying. How can you change if you can't accept the reality of your destructive behavior?
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Sep 14, 2016 15:39
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Carmant posted:The excuses actually aren't bullshit and that's exactly why it took the formerly fat person so much of their life to finally lose the weight. Unfortunatley losing fat doesnt make you any smarter so theyre too stupid to understand this so they just get irrationally angry. No, there are 'reasons' why it is hard. Most good things in life are both hard and rewarding, including being healthy. Making excuses is very easy, and takes almost no effort or insight, and can be done with only one shitposting hand, allowing uninterrupted snacking. Carmant posted:I've literally never been owned. Which clears up just how much delusional thinking you indulge in.
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It is awesome how many positive posts about exercise and weight control have been made, but I think it's because all the fats have gravitated to the bottom of the forum in the QCS anti fat shaming thread.
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Sep 15, 2016 16:23
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Panfilo posted:So who gets to arbitrate what's acceptable? It's not like you can weigh someone in a photograph oe apply any objective rubric to determine too fat or too skinny. This is weird. Is this regarding uh, porn content, or just general metrics for determining obesity? If it's the latter, well there are plenty of diagnostic criteria for determining if someone is overweight, or obese. I could care less what weird poo poo people like to look at nor would I want anyone arbitrating what is or isn't acceptable, provided that no one is being harmed. I guess that's a somewhat gray area for BBW stuff, what with incredibly creepy poo poo like feeders and other types of unhealthy obesity enabling behavior being involved.
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Sep 15, 2016 19:29
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Panfilo posted:Your mistake is in convincing yourself that because you don't find it desirable, nobody does and nobody should. So, if I was attracted to someone who indulged in a kind of self harm that was both physically obvious and was drastically shortening their life, and affecting their day to day activities negatively I should: a) Find it desirable, and encourage their happiness in their indulgence. b) Find it undesirable, and wish that they could see the terrible path they're on. I should be a better person and encourage people? "I find your needle tracks and junkie lifestyle so hot. Let's get you some more!"
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Sep 15, 2016 19:41
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Panfilo posted:Even in the US I very rarely see Chinese/Japanese-American women that are fat (Filipinos are a different story). There's obviously cultural pressure not to be bigger if being fat isn't genetic as people claim. This is kinda interesting! I was poking around looking for obesity stats for the US regarding ethnicity/income/etc, and I came across a CDC brief - NCHS Data Brief - Obesity and Socioeconomic Status in Adults: United States, 2005–2008. What I found was weirdly surprising, as follows: CDC Obesity and Socioeconomic Status Study posted:The relationship between obesity and socioeconomic status differs by sex and race and ethnicity group. Among women, and specifically non-Hispanic white women, obesity prevalence increases as income (PIR) decreases, while among non-Hispanic black and Mexican-American men obesity prevalence decreases as income (PIR) decreases. Although the prevalence of obesity among women with income below 130% of the poverty level is higher than among those with higher incomes, most obese women do not have incomes below 130% of the poverty level. Among men and women with a college degree, the prevalence of obesity is lower than among those with some college education. There is no significant trend between obesity and education among men. However, college educated women are less likely to be obese compared with those with less than a high school diploma. Between 1988–1994 and 2005–2008 the prevalence of obesity increased in adults at all levels of income and education. It must boil down to cultural and social reasons explaining the differences but it is really kind of weird. White women get fatter as they get poorer, while non-white women get thinner; non-hispanic black and mexican american men get fatter as they get richer, white men just get fatter regardless of income or education. And in general, everyone gets fatter. I was trying to find some good stats on obesity related comorbidities, hospitalization time and quality of life metrics, but jesus it's some awful stuff. Also treatment options are so different between socalized medicare countries and the US that it's not really easy to compare studies from various national sources. But it is universally grim reading, regardless of origin. Edit: (omg!) I found some cool data that shows just how much less fat asian people are: They only make up 11% of the overweight and obese population, and then only 2.5% of the Obese II and 1% of the Obese III. Overweight and Obese Obesity Grade II and III Blitter fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Sep 16, 2016 |
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Panfilo posted:Cool, thanks for the data. I've heard anecdotes (though admittedly not data) about how in some cultures, like african american communities, where there is less of a stigma about women being heavier, and it is used to explain why african american women tend to be more obese as they get older (less social pressure to be thin). You're welcome! It would be cool to find some studies that looked at diet and lifestyle correlated with the racial component but I would be really surprised if it was anything more than diet and social norms. I mean, samoans went from being fit to the fattest nation in the world currently, mostly because they ate enormous quantities of "pope's noses" So ease of availability of unhealthy food, and societal norms? [also, I updated my previous posts with some neat tables of obesity percentages in various ethnic groups]
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Poetic Justice posted:if obesity is based on income like a lot of people are saying in here, how come homeless people aren't all really fat???? Weirdly enough in the US, the only population group that gets fatter as they get poorer are white women; all other ethnic and gender specific groups get thinner as they get poorer. (CDC report linked in this post) I'm not sure why but this doesn't surprise me.
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