Carmant posted:

Who cares, old people use more resources too. So do physically disabled or people who get in car accidents.

Carmant posted:

That autistic kid is using my resources again.. better shame him

Fargo Fukes posted:

Proud Rat Mom posted:

i think people on this forum would seem cooler if they stopped getting anrgr at trans, fats, chinese people or mountain climbers or whatever its not a bid deal really :s

Ein cooler Typ posted:

I'm fat but it's not my fault

The solution to obesity is to fix society so everyone isn't miserable but the capitalist fatcats don't want that

Zzulu posted:

Are all fat people depressed?

Ein cooler Typ posted:

Cake does make you feel good temporarily though. Brief moments of happiness is all you can hope for if you're poor.

runupon cracker posted:

That is an accomplishment, congrats! I'm glad you found it easy, but know that you are the exception to the rule, and that sustaining that for a year is considerably more challenging than two months.

runupon cracker posted:

Yeah, there's no way they could be giving up because it's hard, it has to be some mental incapacity. I mean heck, all they're doing is ignoring the mental pressure exerted by a primal instinct, strengthened by the body actively fighting against weight loss, for months or maybe years on end. What could be difficult about that?

Look, I agree that people shouldn't give up on something just because it's hard. But what I don't get is why it's somehow considered bad to acknowledge that it is hard for nearly everybody that does it. It was easy for you? Hey wow congrats on being the exception, but that doesn't mean that everybody who has real difficulty with it is somehow mentally ill.

Germstore posted:

What type of galdurn cookies are you people eating. A normal sized cookie is less than 100 calories. Which admittedly is more than a three minute jog, but I was using fatties numbers.

Panfilo posted:

If you look at maps of counties in the US that indicate median income and maps that indicate obesity rates you find that they overlap almost perfectly.

If you want people to put down the fork give them a living wage, reasonable work hours, socialized health care and upward mobility.

Panfilo posted:

You wouldn't be in that position in the first place. People with access to fresh produce and time to cook decent meals are going to eat healthier then people with a 7 eleven they rely on for groceries and two part time jobs they have to juggle.

Guy Goodbody posted:

If this thread turns into goons sharing their best rice and beans slow cooker recipes I hope we all die

Hey everybody, look at this tumblr full of crazy poo poo

http://thisisthinprivilege.org/

Panfilo posted:

Then how do you explain the correlation between poverty and obesity in the US? It's real cute that you sidestep the issue because it points out things many people have little control over.

Panfilo posted:

There's also a strong relationship between obesity and the hours of sleep a person gets. Not coincidentally, poorer people get less sleep on average, particularly minorities.

Panfilo posted:

That's my point. The only way to reverse the problem of to tackle it on a national level.

Telling heroin addicts to just put the needle down isn't going to have some profound change in drug habits, and havimg the same attitude about obesity won't either.

ArbitraryC posted:

I think the issue is individually the solution is obvious, eat less, move more and it's something the vast majority of people understand regardless of what wacky tweets and blogposts we can laugh at. But if it's such a simple thing, then why are so many people failing at it now and why has that number gone up so much in the past couple decades. I don't think we've all collectively evolved to be lazier with no willpower so there's probably some industrial and cultural explanations that contributed to the epidemic we have today.

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Yeah as an individual the only thing you really can do is watch what you eat and try to get more exercise but screaming this over and over again until your blue in the face is obviously not doing poo poo about the problem on a wide scale

ArbitraryC posted:

I disagree that it's the only thing we can do, we can put more effort into regulating the food industry (probably through a variety of taxes that either make healthier options more appealing to producers or unhealthy options less appealing to consumers), we can put more effort into educating our kids (honestly the number of people I've known in my 20's that could do anything in a kitchen more complicated than heating prepackaged food is abyssmal), and change the way we handle modern labor in light of our industrial productivity and the lack of physical activity involved in many common occupations.

Social and industrial changes made it easier for people to be fat so they're gonna be more fat, social and industrial changes can make it easier for people to be more fit and they'll be fit. People haven't changed, their environment has, and expecting a bootstraps personal responsibility approach to solve any society wide issue is honestly just plain ignorant because that literally never works.

ArbitraryC posted:

Right but you could if you wanted to bootstraps your way to being amazing at any sort of hobbies or trades, it's just not something your average person is ever going to have the willpower or motivation to do. Work harder/smarter is honestly the solution to a lot of life's problems but the human brain is seldom cooperative with those kinds of efforts, telling people to eat less and move more is just trying to push obesity up a hill over and over again only to have it come tumbling down on you every time.

The Saurus posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFKs9CWhoRo

Carmant posted:

Those women look beautiful and happy

Dreddout posted:

I legitimately don't understand how the human skeleton can support that.

Bum the Sad posted:

Or you can do what I do often and just not eat all day long until dinner. And then eat all three meals at once like a giant piece of poo poo but not gain weight because you're at a big calorie deficit for the day.

GORDON posted:

Yesterday:

WOke up, got out of bed, dragged a comb across my head.

I had 2 cups of coffee during the morning commute.

I swam a mile at 8am.

I had a protein shake right after.

Fasted.

I ate arby's at 8pm, their giant roast beef sammitch, a small order of curly fries, and a small diet coke.

I was 2 pounds lighter this morning than I was yesterday.

Panfilo posted:

Nobody is claiming this. But it wouldn't surprise me to find statistics that show starving yourself leads to less sustainable weight loss. Eating nothing for 14 hours straight is going to make a person more prone to overeating.

Having weight rebound also tends to cause the person to end up at a higher weight than when they started. Starvation isn't healthy.

Zahgaegun posted:

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RGBRIOT posted:

That's not what I said at all dude.

I said I ate pretty much next to nil for a year due to financial hardships, then when I started eating normally again, that I gained a ton of weight quickly. Then I asked for clarification on the idea of starvation mode and the possible effects on metabolism since some posters said it's not actually a thing and I wanted to learn more.


If you're going to get lovely about something some one said, maybe make sure you actually know what it was that was said.

Panfilo posted:

The criticisms are the same, the the same zero effort poo poo posts applied: "Why don't they do xyz? Its so easy!" I mean, sure, it's so easy. Just like it's so easy to not be in debt (don't spend beyond your means) or be gainfully employed (put effort into getting a job).