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Panfilo posted:Goons expend a lot of air talking about eating habits and creating calorie deficits. They also beat the same strawman about misconceptions about metabolism. But what is much bigger than that is the cultural impact of weight in our society. I agree that obesity has more and more become a disease of the poor, but It's absurd to believe that ideal bodyweights are arbitrary. It's completely different from facial features, or hair types, because one discrimination is rooted entirely in superficiality and elitism, while the other is biologically toxic. Adipose tissue is a hormone secreting organ which an excess of leads to chronic low-grade inflammation, insulin resistance, heart disease, and cancer. It's not a coincidence that we feel disgust when we see abdominal fat when those are most linked to these afflictions. 70% of Americans are overweight; saying that the problem is people not accepting themselves is missing the symptom for the root problem. Blaming the individual is short sighted, but you can't tell people they should just accept and love whatever they are either. It's a societal problem at this point, and all the fit-bits and motivational posters in the world won't help. See the video below for a more thorough examination. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixR6wVa4HY&t=87s
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Panfilo posted:Tying their self-worth to weight doesn't motivate them to do something about it. When people are happy and self-confident they will take feedback much better than when they are depressed and delusional. Obesity is most definitely a class signifier especially when it comes to women and that in turn is a way for people to judge them on their worth. As is women are already under a disproportionate amount of scrutiny on their appearance, and it is far, far more cultural than Preaching acceptance of different bodyweights is still tying self worth to bodyweight. It's just adding cognitive dissonance to the dish. When you tell people to be happy and self confident in their excessive bodyweight, you're telling them to ignore the warning signs of impending metabolic diseases.
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Panfilo posted:Its actually the opposite. You're assuming someone is expected to be happy and confident because of excess bodyweight, but I never said that. I also never said for them to ignore the warning signs of health problems either. I said that when people feel good about themselves, they are motivated to make positive changes. Fat people don't like how fat people look. No amount of delusion will bypass that fact. Disgust at excess bodyfat transcends all cultures and periods of time, maybe you should consider what that means rather than taking offense on behalf of all the little girls. KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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Sep 15, 2016 18:21
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NomChompsky posted:I see a ton of fat people in relationships and marriages so this can't be 100% true. Bald people are in relationships and get married too. Disgust at male pattern baldness is also something that transcends all cultures and times. Baldness is linked to insulin resistance, heart disease and cancer. I bet this is a coincidence too.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:46
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NomChompsky posted:Grats this is the most retarded post in the whole thread you win! You're on the side of someone who cites BBW porn as a victory for obesity. Panfilo posted:I like to imagine some of the trolls in this thread showing up to Tinder dates with calipers and a luggage scale to make sure the women meet their exacting standards What reality do you people live in? People make these physical judgements before they're even conscious of it.
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Sep 15, 2016 18:58
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Panfilo posted:So who gets to arbitrate what's acceptable? It's not like you can weigh someone in a photograph oe apply any objective rubric to determine too fat or too skinny. Scientists you imbecile. There are people who get off on sado masochism, how does that fit in your Darwinism theory?
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Sep 15, 2016 19:18
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Panfilo posted:So who gets to arbitrate what's acceptable? It's not like you can weigh someone in a photograph oe apply any objective rubric to determine too fat or too skinny. Objective rules: Fat neck & Fat midsection.
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Sep 15, 2016 19:36
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Zahgaegun posted:Metafilter dot png It's strange when people speak of eating garbage as freedom and happiness as a point of pride. At least drug addicts and gamblers are somewhat ashamed of their slavery.
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Sep 17, 2016 03:26
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C-SPAN Caller posted:we should do what we do with drug addicts in america and start a war on obesity only it might actually work You forget we live in a capitalist society. Any regulatory efforts to reduce the food we eat (especially garbage) is tantamount to attacking freedom itself. Government nutrition recommendations are always heavily compromised by private food industries. quote:By 2014, all-out war had erupted over school lunches, with the first lady and health advocates on one side and school cafeteria managers, food manufacturers and Republicans on the other. Farm-state lawmakers wanted a waiver that would let schools opt out if they lost money under the healthier food options. “Only the Obama administration could take an anti-hunger program and turn it into an anti-obesity program and not understand the difference,” said Brian Rell, chief of staff to Rep. Robert Aderholt, the Alabama Republican who led the effort to relax the rules. KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Sep 17, 2016 |
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extra stout posted:it's unlikely any of us will live to see an america not driven by increasingly large numbers Definitely not the fat ones.
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Panfilo posted:
Considering 70% of Americans are overweight, I highly doubt that it's the 30%'s treatment of them that they're unhealthy.
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