ProfessorProf posted:

So, here's a small announcement:

Barring some dreadful internet-destroying crisis, the LP will update every day between now and the end of Episode 4. It's time to full combo the remainder of the thread.

alcharagia posted:

Isn't it crazy how it turned out that Gohda, Kinzo, Kasumi, Amakusa, and Maria were all the same person at different points in a time-travelling lifespan?

MonsterEnvy posted:

Kinzo is a bad one.

Classy Hydra posted:

Yes

This sequence is both the most anime and the best.

oath2order posted:

Shannon still hasn't forgiven Battler for that time he ate her French Fries.

SardonicTyrant posted:

Well now I know magic isn't real. That spell didn't work at all.

Mister Olympus posted:

And make it spin.

idonotlikepeas posted:

That said... Ange got shot at too before time froze. Was she hit? She might well be in some kind of delirious state now, especially if she's seeing blue-haired animes.

Fabulousvillain posted:

I guess it could be like Silent Hill's bad ending. As in Ange was shot and is now bleeding out, but having hallucinations of Purgatory Sisters and Eva reviving just to be killed. That would be stupid though, Silent Hill's bad ending was stupid too.

resurgam40 posted:

I've been thinking about Krauss too, and whether he is bitter and crazy enough to start this whole thing off. The problem is, though, the time of death: He dies in the first twilight in two of the three stories and his corpse is accounted for and in both instances, extremely hard to fake (face smashed off, guts out), so how would he have gone about killing the others? instructions to the servants, who "carried out his will"? The only games where he himself was in a position to kill anyone has been this game, and the last one: he's named as dead both times, but the bodies are not conclusive (and in this game, hasn't been found yet), so what's your thinking there? In the third game, he's mostly in the room and being watched by Natsuhi until his death, so how would you propose he moves around? Which leaves the fourth game, in which, yeah, he's got a lot of freedom, and the entire instances we've seen might be a load of hoo-ha... so do you think he was shooting people and corralled them somewhere until a break was made? Do you mind unpacking your thoughts on this a little?

CottonWolf posted:

Could be. An outcome where she was shot and started bleeding out/hallucinating, Amakusa grassy knolls all the goons, and she comes to later wouldn't be hugely surprising.


Aren't the people with half-crushed faces more likely to be genuinely dead than those with fully crushed faces? It's difficult to come back from having your face smashed in, and as Beatrice points out at the start of this episode, if you can see half their face there's no issue with the corpse not being who they say it is. The people with fully crushed faces can at least potentially be different corpses than the people themselves, as you're stuck IDing them from their clothes rather than their faces.

Unless you think they facial wounds were more minor than they implied? Which I guess is possible. Who in the cast would be good at stage make-up?

CottonWolf posted:

The second's more tricky he was disembowled(?) or least had his stomach cut open in the "Happy HALLOWEEN for MARIA" scene.

tiistai posted:

Not that the anime is necessarily correct about everything, but

idonotlikepeas posted:

A bit late, but I felt like I had to gild the lily.

https://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ds-UJnVrzb9U

lets hang out posted:

With love it's easy to see that Rosa made a second one for Maria because she felt terrible about tearing apart the first. She probably just forgot it on the boat, or maybe left it as a surprise for Maria to find on the return trip.

oath2order posted:

Onii-Chan~

Tender Child Loins posted:

Just caught up with the last updates. Ughhhh so heartwrenching! resurgam40 already said exactly what I was thinking during that scene with Beato making the weird faces: more evidence on the "Beatrice is a mask of bravado" pile. The mask is cracking, and the effort that she puts in to maintain that façade is becoming more strenuous. She's running out of steam, so Battler (and we) had better figure this poo poo out, and fast.

I'm glad that Ange was able to help her brother out, but a small part of me is disappointed that she essentially got fridged. I take solace in knowing that IRL Ange is off having murder adventures of her own, and hopefully coming to terms with the truth in her own way. I just hope that this isn't the end of her role in the story; I was just getting into her as a character!

So back to the murders. I have two main observations.

I noticed that the "gouge the X and kill" section of the ritual murders was really executed halfheartedly in this take. The stakes are only lodged in Krauss's and Kyrie's heads, and the rest are just lying next to Nanjo and Shannon. We've seen the latter before in episode 2, with Shannon in Natsuhi's room. It just seems really off, especially in light of the Stakes as characters. They make a point (lol) of being stab-happy, so it's hard not to notice when the stakes are just lying in proximity to the corpses. Why does that happen? You can't even make the case for them falling out of the appropriate wounds, since there's no indication that the corpses were maimed in the relevant areas. This seems like decisive evidence for the stakes in previous games being used to cover gunshot wounds, in case anyone was doubtful of that. It also seems like the culprit kind of lost their relish for the game, much like how Beato faded away after Battler failed his test.

Kanon's corpse goes missing yet again. Yes, it's easy to explain his absence away with the grate, but how and why would he be down there if it's impossible to open? When Kyrie's group escaped, there was no mention of a grate. And I doubt there would have been time to bolt a heavy metal grate onto the well in the time between the escape and Battler's discovery of the scene. So my thought is that no one came through the well. Instead, they could have been running from that point towards the mansion (or away from it; there's no indication that anyone was going in a particular direction). If that's so, where is Kanon? His death was pronounced in red, but in a game where name death is a thing, that's near-meaningless. His other persona could very well be the culprit.

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oath2order posted:

I my experience, it is those who are so convinced in their own theories that they have the hubris to believe a mere hypothesis is so powerful as to become something approaching truth that always end up the most off base and humiliated in the end

MonsterEnvy posted:

Would not shock me if it was Natsuhi's idea to keep his death a secret.

Of everyone on the Island she speaks the highest of Kinzo and dislikes any talk bad mouthing him or talking about his death. There was also that scene early on were she talks to Kinzo and he (out of character) praises her, which we now know is a delusion of hers or something because Kinzo was dead already. She kind of seems a tad obsessed with him.

Tender Child Loins posted:

Don't know how I missed the trailer for next episode, but??? Bernkastel?