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So she gave the two of them burn marks to make sure they knew they hadn't imagined meeting her, but kept the murders ambiguous because...?
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KataraniSword posted:This truly is the modern day Beauty and the Battler. There's something strange about this crime And though I tried to solve it I ran out of time. But maybe now, I know for sure, I'll prove the Golden Witch just wasn't there before.
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vector_to posted:if Beatrice is invisible to those without love, why can Kannon see her when he admits to being furniture and without it? Why am I even buying into this logic about a being that can't be seen unless you have the loving power of friendship.
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Oct 19, 2016 16:21
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Where did Kannon even get an outfit like that?
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Oct 20, 2016 15:04
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oath2order posted:In episode 6 we learn that Kanon has never bought clothing for himself before, and so accidentally walked into an anime cosplay shop, unable to tell the difference.
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Oct 20, 2016 16:59
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+1  Beatrice. Maybe we should keep a tally of how often Kinzo does that. Or take a shot.
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Oct 21, 2016 16:27
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I think it's less that Battler doesn't believe in magic so much as Battler doesn't want Beatrice to win. And good job Kinzo, holding back on the Beatrice this time.
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Oct 23, 2016 18:35
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ProfessorProf posted:He did say it once, though, which brings the tally up to 23.
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Oct 23, 2016 23:10
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Games > Let's Play! > This Cold House: Let's Play Umineko
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Oct 25, 2016 00:33
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Jeabus Mahogany posted:Let's flip the chessboard: What is the goal of the ritual? What I'm getting at is that Battler has no reason to believe that the various magical rules are real, or if the ritual is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide some other goal.
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Oct 27, 2016 00:45
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Was it even established what would happen if Battler won? Did Beatrice promise anything? He's going to be pretty embarrassed when he solves the mystery and it turns out he's still dead.
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ProfessorProf posted:
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Oct 27, 2016 13:52
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"You've really got brains! Even understandin' just this much is raally reassurin'! In other wurds, you're tellin' us not to get sucked into our opponents pace."
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Fabulousvillain posted:I never saw this profile until now, and something doesn't add up. Beatrice you know those boots and stockings don't go with that outfit, you gotta step your fashion game up if you want to win Battlers
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Oct 31, 2016 00:20
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I would say leave them as they are.
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Oct 31, 2016 03:30
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I don't know what's better. This Happy Halloween treat, or that reading the updated bios in order forms a message that flows together perfectly.
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Oct 31, 2016 16:20
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I guess what we're asking is do people die when they are killed? 
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Nov 11, 2016 05:53
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Is there any place where I can legally purchase the Umineko OST? I've been listening to it on youtube during work, but I really want to have it on my phone.
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Nov 12, 2016 23:13
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I know this is supposed to be a dramatic, touching scene, but that little 'boing' sound and Gouda's little tug-o-war with locking the door has me 
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Nov 18, 2016 17:27
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Another thing worth pointing out is that Beatrice appeared in her schoolgirl outfit in the chapel, but when they encounter her again in Natsuhi's room, she's in her regular gown. I don't know what that's supposed to signify, but it stands out because there's no obvious reason for it. Come to think of it, the first time anyone sees Beatrice during the family gathering (Kyrie, right?), she's wearing the schoolgirl outfit. And I think Battler was present when Kyrie mentioned meeting Beatrice, so maybe by some contrived logic *that* Beatrice is real, and ballgown Beatrice is not?
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Nov 19, 2016 22:24
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tiistai posted:Not to detract you from making a point, but if you didn't watch the video she just magically changed clothes in the middle of it. Can't a girl pick an outfit to match the occasion? 
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Nov 20, 2016 00:55
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The second twilight is the one about the two lovers being torn apart. Or something to that extant. The killer has been sorta doing the ritual out of order. Which is further proof that magic is not real. A real witch wouldn't have half-assed it. POOL IS CLOSED posted:In my profession, there's the concept of independence in appearance versus independence in fact. I'm going to extend this concept to interdimensional body-swapping between the same being traveling along different forks in the timeline and say that if alpha-you takes the place of beta-you, for all intents and purposes, you are yourself, even if the experiences your alpha and beta have accrued have resulted in alpha and beta developing different perspectives and agendas. No one in the beta-timeline has demonstrated any ability to perceive alpha-purgatory besides meta-Battler. (let's just confuse all the prefixes, hooray!) There's no reason to believe that meta-Battler is more than a ghost caught in the machinery of the universe. I suspect he might be less, and is some coping mechanism by real-Battler -- whether the pawn/beta-Battler we're seeing in this ep, or some "true end" Battler we'll meet in the future. (I mean... these games usually do have a "true end", right? So I anticipate we'll encounter that eventually...)
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Nov 22, 2016 01:35
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This is a very interesting scene, because until this post, I've accepted everything Battler has experienced as the only thing we can truly trust. But Battler's kind of drunk here, so should we, the viewers, accept that Beatrice's explanations explained everything?
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Nov 22, 2016 17:08
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 The best thanksgiving gift.
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Nov 24, 2016 00:28
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There is no big enough. Thank you.
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Nov 25, 2016 23:51
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resurgam40 posted:*Amazing Gilbert and Sullivan parody.*
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Nov 26, 2016 02:36
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The greatest mystery so far: How to prove Beatrice isn't a natural blond if she didn't use hair dye? But in all seriousness, there's something to consider: Beatrice claims to have lived a thousand years. If this is her memory and Silver Beatrice is someone else, then...well, it doesn't feel like this is set somewhere in the 11th century. The roof of one of the buildings is a bit too modern, isn't it? And Silver Beatrice is wearing something that'd be more at home in the 18th century or up. So maybe she's been looping awhile and counting years based on that.
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EagerSleeper posted:This family, I swear... With how much they have romances with furniture, I wonder how a trip to Ikea would go. 
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Nov 30, 2016 20:33
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You know, Beatrice likes to bring up her Endless magic power, but it's kind of her biggest weakness. If you think about it, no matter how many loops Battler loses, he just has to prove a witch doesn't exist once, and he wins. If a witch did commit the murders however, he still doesn't lose; so long as he refuses to accept this, he would continue losing forever, but Beatrice would never win. In a weird way, everything about this game is in Battler's favor, so long as he possesses the willpower to keep playing.
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Dec 4, 2016 16:08
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CottonWolf posted:Only as long as a situation where the only non-magical explanations haven't been closed down by red exist. The longer they play, the more things get ruled out.
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Dec 4, 2016 18:39
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If it rains, it pours. Contrapositive: If it's not pouring, it's not raining.
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Dec 4, 2016 21:53
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I don't think it's all that surprising that a witch is bad at logic.
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Dec 5, 2016 02:28
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Something funny I just noticed while reading from the beginning. In the prologue Battler and Rudolf are screwing around and Rudolf grabs Battler by the ear. He then proceeds to repeat the Konami code using Battler's ear. So, all of this looping? It's not magic. Battler just has extra lives.
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 Jesus Christ...erm...is what I would say if I believed in magic... But it's interesting that Kinzo is definitely one of the six sacrifices this time. And all of his most loyal servants as well. SardonicTyrant fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Dec 11, 2016 |
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Dec 11, 2016 16:44
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EagerSleeper posted:We know that she's been with the Ushiromiya family for a long time, but for some reason she doesn't have an eagle crest. This could mean that Kinzo does not care much for her for some reason. Perhaps a personal conflict?
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Dec 13, 2016 20:52
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Oh, come on. You're not even trying to be convincing, Beatrice.
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Dec 14, 2016 19:43
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I think one person could pull this off. They could kill the other five, using their own master key to lock the doors, and then lock their own door before killing themselves. I'd like to think that it was Genji who would be the killer in this case. He's the most loyal of Kinzo's servants, and given what we've seen of him, he could probably catch his victims off guard, assuming no one else was in on this plan.
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oath2order posted:Can you explain how genji could shoot or stab himself without leaving any obvious weapons around? An icicle. One solid enough to stab himself with. It would not only provide a disappearing murder weapon, but also fulfill the requirements of the ritual. It's even possible that the dampness would be overlooked by all the blood. Of course, this is assuming he was killed by stabbing. We don't actually know what killed him this time.
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If Nanjo was involved in this murder, was he involved in the last two? It seems likely. He was one of the last killed in the first loop, and Battler only saw his body after Shannon, Gohda, and George died. So far, there's a possibility he was alive for most of the ritual in the previous loops.
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tiistai posted:You can read into it if you want but Kinzo and Battler alike have cried out quite a few uu-uu's over the course of these games.
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