Deathface posted:

The Dennis System posted:

I've seen the original series and the End of Evangelion, but I don't understand what the hell was even going on in that show. Maybe someone here could explain the show to me and answer a couple of questions?

1 - What are the angels and what are their goals?

2 - What are the Evas?

3 - Who is Lillith?

4 - Who is Adam?

5 - What is Seele and what are it's goals?

6 - What is NERV and what are it's goals?

7 - What is Gendo's goal?

8 - Why is the final Angel a humanoid? All the other Angels are giant, super-monsters, so why does this Angel suddenly look like a human?

9 - What was the purpose of the Impacts?

I have many more questions, but I think the above are the most important. Anyone?

WitchFetish posted:

The only thing worth knowing is that Asuka is best girl, while Rei is poop that smells like garbage (and poop).

Misato is best Lady tho.

Shinjobi posted:

evas are like...synthetic angels or something. they've got fleshy bits mixed in with all the circuitry and crap. adam was the first angel, and any time he pops up the planet kinda shits itself something fierce. Lillith is another angel and humans apparently are her offspring. Don't ask me how.

Seele wants everyone to share one collective consciousness and live forever. They want to be the orange goo forever. NERV/Gendo wants to be reuinited with Yui because Gendo got tired of banging the younger blonde that worked for him.

The final angel is a humanoid because it's loving cool, that's why. Humans are spooky.

Impacts are code for whenever Adam pops up and accidentally destroys stuff, usually. Exceptions made in the Rebuild movies, but gently caress if I understand that poo poo.

Lemme drink a few more beers and I'll get REALLY in depth.


EDIT:


This works a lot better than my answer

HerraS posted:

The answer is ALIENS!!!!

The Dennis System posted:

So it sounds like Seele are pretty cool guys then. It's too bad Gendo hosed them over.

Panfilo posted:

The way I understand it, the angels were a type of organism that took a different evolutionary path then humans. They want to merge with Adam to trigger some kind of of jump to the next stage of evolution.

Nathilus posted:

Correct.

I feel some pity so I'll elaborate. Keep in mind this is all stupid window dressing to the core story.

Adam and Lilith are lifeform factories. They were meant to terraform a joint and then spit out babies. Lilith is the progenitor of humans while adam is the same for the angels. They shoot out different kinds of lifeforms though and were not intended to be based on the same planet. One angel is equivalent to the entire human race. They're unitary organisms and we aren't.

Some humans figured this out and became the illuminati. That's seele. They want to turn the human race into a unitary organism like the angels for various reasons. They caused the second impact by tampering with adam. The impact itself is a terraforming event, originally intended to make a planet ready for angels. It wasn't supposed to go off with lilims, us, already on the planet. Despite the fuckup, seele learns how to make fake angels via adam that are controllable with the addition of mommy souls. That's evas.

Nerve is a testing and defense arm of seele headed by gendo. He's (not so) secretly a traitor and wants the same thing seele does, except on his own terms, because he wants to be with his wife, whose mentality is stuck in 01.

I've now lost all my hard earned gbs cred so enjoy. Hope it was worth it, rear end in a top hat.

The Dennis System posted:

Interesting. This actually clears up a lot of stuff. But why is Adam on Earth if the Earth is a Lillith planet? Shouldn't he be off on some Angel planet? And I thought Shinji's mom was the basis of all Evas. I didn't think there were different mothers for each Eva.

paul_soccer10 posted:

Earth is under attack by gigantic alien monsters (called Kaiju) emerging from an inter-dimensional portal called "The Breach" at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Humanity unites to construct colossal robots, nicknamed Jaegers, to combat the alien threat. Each Jaeger is controlled by two or more pilots, who are mentally linked via a process called "drifting" to share the mental stress of piloting the machine.

In 2020, Gipsy Danger, piloted by brothers Raleigh and Yancy Becket, is assigned to protect the Alaskan coastline from a Kaiju, code named Knifehead. The monster survives the initial assault and blindsides Gipsy Danger, then rips open her hull and kills Yancy. Raleigh takes control of Gipsy alone and kills Knifehead. Traumatized by the loss of his brother, Raleigh quits the Jaeger program.

Five years later, Kaiju attacks have increased in both frequency and strength, to the point that Jaegers are being destroyed faster than they can be built. World leaders decide to cut funding for the Jaeger program in favor of anti-Kaiju coastal walls. Marshal Stacker Pentecost, veteran Jaeger pilot and commanding officer of the program, summons the surviving Jaegers and pilots to a base in Hong Kong called Shatterdome. He finds Raleigh and convinces him to rejoin the program and make a last stand.

At Shatterdome, Raleigh and Pentecost are greeted by Mako Mori, the director of the Jaeger refurbishment. He sees the remaining Jaegers and their crews: Striker Eureka (Australian), Cherno Alpha (Russian), and Crimson Typhoon (Chinese). The fourth Jaeger is Gipsy Danger, rebuilt and refurbished with additional weapons and nuclear reactor. Pentecost tells Raleigh his plan is to use the four Jaegers to seal the Breach with a nuclear weapon. To find a new partner to pilot Gipsy, Raleigh holds a tryout with the base's fighters, and finds his most "drift-compatible" partner to be Mori, who is revealed to be Pentecost's adopted daughter. In their test drift, Raleigh goes out of alignment after reliving the moment his brother died, causing Mako to become lost in her memory of the Kaiju attack that orphaned her, and nearly discharges Gipsy Danger's plasma caster. Pentecost grounds Mako, leaving Raleigh without a copilot.

Pentecost consults with Kaiju scientists Newton Geiszler and Hermann Gottlieb. Herman believes that the Breach is stabilizing, allowing increasing numbers of Kaiju to invade at a time, but allowing them to drop the weapon into the Breach. Newton, for his part, creates a device that allows him to drift with a Kaiju's brain fragment, and discovers that the Kaiju are bioweapons created by extraterrestrial colonists to wipe out humanity and invade Earth. Pentecost instructs Newton to find black market dealer Hannibal Chau to obtain an intact Kaiju brain and acquire more information. At Hannibal's place, Newton realizes that during his previous drift, the Kaiju's hive mind gained access to his knowledge, just as he gained theirs. Two Kaiju, code-named Otachi and Leatherback, are unleashed upon Hong Kong simultaneously to find him.

All Jaegers, except for Gipsy Danger, are dispatched. The Kaiju easily destroy Crimson Typhoon and Cherno Alpha, and immobilize Striker Eureka with an EMP blast. Out of options, Pentecost allows Raleigh and Mako to pilot Gipsy Danger. They kill Leatherback, then pursue Otachi, which is hunting for Newton. After a lengthy and destructive battle, Raleigh and Mako manage to kill Otachi. Newton and Hannibal rush to Otachi's carcass, and discover that it is pregnant. The infant Kaiju bursts out and swallows Hannibal, before being asphyxiated by its own umbilical cord. Newton and Hermann drift with the infant Kaiju's brain, and learn that the Breach only opens in the presence of Kaiju DNA.

Pentecost reveals to Raleigh he is terminally ill due to piloting a first generation Jaeger with no radiation shielding. The last time he piloted a Jaeger was during the Tokyo attack, during which he was forced to kill the Kaiju that orphaned Mako alone, making him and Raleigh the only pilots who have killed a Kaiju without a copilot (known as solo combat). He has the remaining Jaegers proceed with the mission. With pilot Hercules Hansen injured during the previous fight, Pentecost and Chuck Hansen pilot Striker Eureka and carry the bomb; Raleigh and Mako provide cover in Gipsy Danger. At the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, the two Jaegers are faced with two Kaiju, code named Scunner and Raiju. Raleigh and Mako manage to kill Raiju and injure Scunner, but Gipsy Danger is crippled by the two Kaiju. A third Kaiju, true to Gottlieb's prediction, emerges from the Breach. The Kaiju, code named Slattern, is a Category 5 Kaiju and the largest ever encountered. Slattern critically damages Striker, but they manage to injure the Kaiju. Pentecost and Chuck detonate the nuclear bomb, killing Scunner and further injuring Slattern. Considering Newton's discovery, Raleigh and Mako defeat Slattern and use the corpse to drive Gipsy Danger into the Breach to seal it with the Jaeger's nuclear reactor. Seeing Mako has passed out because her oxygen supply is depleted, Raleigh gives Mako his supply and ejects her via an escape pod. He then manually overloads the reactor, just as it descends into the aliens' homeworld, and ejects himself back through the Breach.

Gipsy's reactor explodes, killing the aliens and sealing the Breach. Mako and Raleigh's pods surface in the Pacific Ocean, and the two embrace as rescue helicopters arrive. In a mid-credits scene, Hannibal cuts his way out of the dead infant Kaiju.

Nathilus posted:

Each eva has the pilot's mom inside. Except 00. I have no idea about 00. An earlier rei maybe. Eventually the figure out how to automate evas with reis whether they have a soul or not. That's the dummy plug system. This works cuz rei is a subset of lilith. Presumably she has overrides embedded in her by nature. It's kinda weird though because as we've said, evas are from adam, not lilith.

Nathilus posted:

It's not mentioned but presumably adam remained inactive till seele hosed with it, since there were no angels until then and only one impact that was what made the earths natural biosphere, so that was lilith.

Specifically the angels are aiming for adam and lilith, again presumably to stop humans from loving with them. Angels always attack nerve which is where both adam and lilith are housed.

Nathilus posted:

Cosmic coincidence. They are both part of a larger life-breeding program, and of all the who knows how many biofactories that were seeded, two ended up close to each other. Iirc adam actually landed on the moon and was brought to earth by some cataclysm.

Each eva has the pilot's mom inside. Except 00. I have no idea about 00. An earlier rei maybe. Eventually the figure out how to automate evas with reis whether they have a soul or not. That's the dummy plug system. This works cuz rei is a subset of lilith. Presumably she has overrides embedded in her by nature. It's kinda weird though because as we've said, evas are from adam, not lilith.

Shinjobi posted:

Unit 00 I've always understood has another Rei inside it, yeah. Part of the reason why its initial activations went so poorly; you wake up one day and you're suddenly a bio-robo-pseudo-god, with a tiny clone of yourself controlling you from inside your neck. You try and tell me that you don't lose all composure and try to murder your creator.


Eva is a weird show.

The Dennis System posted:

Whoa, so the angels aren't actually trying to kill off humanity. They're just trying to stop Seele and NERV from trying to create the instrumentality. Although if the angels weren't really trying to hurt anyone, you'd think Katsuragi and a lot of the other NERV people would be against instrumentality and go ahead let the angels take back Adam.

The Dennis System posted:

I thought Rei was just a straight-up clone of Shinji's mom. I didn't know she had any Lillith in her.

Shinjobi posted:

I believe the blue hair and red eyes come from Lilith. Kaworu, who is also an angel, has a similarish hair/eye coloration.

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

I remember watching that in high school and thinking it was stupid and filled with overwrought symbolism the author didn't understand.

Nathilus posted:

I loved the poo poo out of it, which is why I remember so much of this bs. But then I've always been a pretentious twat.

vols bitch posted:

anime is harem you nerds

Let us English posted:

Not sure if this is a typo or just a fact about 90% of lovely Japanese cartoons.