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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

for god's sake why would your solution to literally any problem in existence be "add PHP to this"

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carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

loquacius posted:

for god's sake why would your solution to literally any problem in existence be "add PHP to this"

it already has regex?

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

flakeloaf posted:

it already has regex?

Lmao

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

for about 10 years our company homepage had java applet that did nothing but play a slideshow because some god damned webdev confused java with javascript

webdave

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

never forget http://java.metagno.me/

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
my new programming language is called coffin

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006
seriously what are we gunna do about this web problem

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Gazpacho posted:

Pretty Hate Processor

p. hot penis

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

MSPain posted:

seriously what are we gunna do about this web problem

It's been solved and the solution is called icedcoffeescript

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

I'll say it, op, Java sucks

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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Citizen Tayne posted:

One of the guys at work says that Java gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot.
like is this guy totally stupid or does he just not think about the words coming out of his mouth, how can anyone say that the most anal retentive PL in general use "gives you rope"

krooj
Dec 2, 2006
op - java doesn't suck, but there are literal armies of crud-app developers whose sole job is to copy-paste code, and they love java. I don't even think they know why they love it - prolly cause its the only PL they know well enough to make a living out of. The part of me that knows these denizens exist also wishes that C++ weren't such a cluster that it could be used for server-side development and the barrier for entry would be *that* much higher. Sadly, that's not even where this industry goes: Google *might* have invented golang for the sole purpose of lowering the bar to entry. RoR (not a PL), JavaScript, the list goes on. Hell, I'm pretty sure that Java took hold b/c uni profs were tired of teaching kids how memory management even works.

The JVM is some fantastic engineering and there are really good and complicated things built with java (i.e.: lots of Netflix backend), but idk if the same can be said of php (does FB even count as good).

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

Gazpacho posted:

like is this guy totally stupid or does he just not think about the words coming out of his mouth, how can anyone say that the most anal retentive PL in general use "gives you rope"
well it doesn't give you wood

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






*java anal sex jjoke*

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag
- bilb
- tane
- plape
- SUCCEDS? PORFIT

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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Gazpacho posted:

watch this thread next tuesday for live posts from javaone
protip: if you find yourself considering a visit to javaone know that it is a very different gig from WWDC, the developer sessions are all outsourced and underscheduled (there are gaps where you have nothing to do but wander around the vendor farm) and oracle exercises apparently no quality control over them

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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like the session i just got out of was on container orchestration and it was all the presenter banging commands into his terminal window without explanation, and then at the end he ran some containerized services on a raspberry pi cluster, well gee that's very clever but it's not what devs do for money

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Gazpacho posted:

like the session i just got out of was on container orchestration and it was all the presenter banging commands into his terminal window without explanation, and then at the end he ran some containerized services on a raspberry pi cluster, well gee that's very clever but it's not what devs do for money

This is the worst loving poo poo. Again, being clever

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

a raspberry pi cluster

oh man

oh dang

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
dont show how to do it on AWS, nobody would ever want to know how to do that for a job

do it on a cluster of things you bought at microcenter. all flapping around with USB hubs and poo poo plugged into the wall. Do that instead.

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Gazpacho posted:

a raspberry pi cluster

lol

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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Jonny 290 posted:

dont show how to do it on AWS, nobody would ever want to know how to do that for a job

do it on a cluster of things you bought at microcenter. all flapping around with USB hubs and poo poo plugged into the wall. Do that instead.
He did deploy some poo poo into google cloud but obviously he needed a big finish to use up the time he saved by giggling about each command instead of explaining it

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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The theme for this year's javaone was "how java ee 8 will finally make third party java service frameworks obsolete (when it's released)"

Also "java in the :yayclod:" which is funny because I remember Ellison giving a keynote about 7 years ago that started off "lol nobody even knows what the cloud is"

Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Sep 21, 2016

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

Gazpacho posted:

The theme for this year's javaone was "how java ee 8 will finally make third party java service frameworks obsolete (when it's released)"

Also "java in the :yayclod:" which is funny because I remember Ellison giving a keynote about 7 years ago that started off "lol nobody even knows what the cloud is"

they still don't

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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akadajet posted:

they still don't
Wrong, it's a miserable pile of servers

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
I'm saying it. Java sucks.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

final int barf

if (something)
barf = 1;
else
barf = 2 OH NO YOU CANT DO THIS YOU'VE ALREADY SET BARF TO SOMETHING

java

crutchcorn
Sep 21, 2016

Do you really want a headphone jack on ME?

You really ARE an idiot.

Suspicious posted:

3 billion devices run java? that's terrifying

well i mean, 7 billion people don't even have buffer overflow protection. id take java anyday

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

my bitter bi rival posted:

[computer guy looking around office] im going to call this programming language i invented.... desk.

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

Gazpacho posted:

The theme for this year's javaone was "how java ee 8 will finally make third party java service frameworks obsolete (when it's released)"

Also "java in the :yayclod:" which is funny because I remember Ellison giving a keynote about 7 years ago that started off "lol nobody even knows what the cloud is"

whats java ee 8

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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update: basically everyone who attended J1 from my office agrees it was a waste of time, in one case a presenter was scheduled an hour to speak and he let everyone out after half, guess he didn't have any clever hacks to show off ?

ConanTheLibrarian
Aug 13, 2004


dis buch is late
Fallen Rib

Gazpacho posted:

update: basically everyone who attended J1 from my office agrees it was a waste of time, in one case a presenter was scheduled an hour to speak and he let everyone out after half, guess he didn't have any clever hacks to show off ?

raspberry pi cluster guy vindicated

ConanTheLibrarian
Aug 13, 2004


dis buch is late
Fallen Rib

flakeloaf posted:

final int barf

if (something)
barf = 1;
else
barf = 2 OH NO YOU CANT DO THIS YOU'VE ALREADY SET BARF TO SOMETHING

java

nuh uh

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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javac is still the simcity transportation adviser of compilers

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

akadajet posted:

they still don't

that's because it's vaporware

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Gazpacho posted:

javac is still the simcity transportation adviser of compilers

i somehow like this analogy despite not getting it at all

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Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:

i somehow like this analogy despite not getting it at all
YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE EXCEPTIONS! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!

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