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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Oh boy, every team finishing 8-8. The NCAA might not be good, but it is very well supported. BiggerBoat posted:
The gently caress is this poo poo? Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Sep 20, 2016 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Why? Does Matt Ryan suck? Or did I rate him too low for you? So far I've been called out on Ryan and Carson Palmer, neither of which invalidates my argument, btw, and their lifetime stats seem to generally bear out my rankings. To be fair, QB opinions vary wildly year to year, and given your previous assertion of "taking their whole career into account" I can understand your rankings. But given present-day ability, your list is broken as gently caress. Right now, we have: Great: Aaron Rogers Cam Newton T*m Br*dy Ben Roethlisberger Really Good/Above Average Phillips Rivers Joe Flacco - I'll give this to you OBERST. But just this loving once. Carson Palmer - He's earned it. The Cards offense hums when he's under center. Drew Brees - He's still got some loving HoF Juice, but he's coming back down to earth in his old age. Russel Wilson - He flashes great, but I think you'll find that he's actually just really good. Adequate Tony Romo - He's broken as gently caress and probably done. Matt Ryan - He's broken and his weaknesses are masked by the offensive scheme. His deep ball is almost completely gone and he has a hard time hitting receivers in stride. The number of passes thrown behind receivers is maddening. Matt Stafford - He's got a cannon arm and a lot of heart, but he's just not loving above average. Eli Manning - His Superbowl rings are luck and lucky, and mostly propped up by his defense. Andrew Luck - He took too many hits, expectations for him should be back down to earth. Andy Dalton - He has too many bad games to be considered above average. Ryan Fitzpatrick - He's dependable, but also not great. He'll get the job done. He's the definition of adequate. Alex Smith - See Ryan Fitzpatrick. Jay Cutler - He doesn't loving CAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE, but I mean, he's got talent. Kirk Cousins - He's got upside, I guess, but If we had a below average cat, I'd put him there. Ryan Tannehill - He flashes some ability, but I think ultimately, he's just not able to make W's happen on his own. Sam Bradford - See fuckin' Ryan Fitzpatrick. Blake Bortles * Jameis Winston* Derek Carr * Marcus Mariotta* ***That ship has sailed, these guys are adequate QB's. Possible really good inc for Derek. Too Early to say Teddy Bridgewater - He's just been hurt too much. Way Too early to say Carson Wentz Brock Osweller Dak Prescott Trevor Seiman Paxton Lynch Jared Goff Jimmy Garapolo Complete poo poo/Hopeless Case Keenum Mark Sanchez (is he in the league?)(Yes... yes he is) Blaine Gabbert RG3 Shaun Hill Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 16:47
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Metapod posted:Mariota is actually really good If she slings you to north of 8 wins, I'll agree to that.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:05
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Metapod posted:With the shape that is the secondary I do not agree to those terms It is your right, as an American, to be a homer. Even if it is to the Titans. Lets get the Grizzlies moved to the East so TN can get some finals appearances this decade.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:08
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Dubious posted:you don't know what you're talking about. Teddy missed one start since he got promoted to a full time starter, and was trending very well to a good QB until he tore his ACL this year, Now, of course, he's a huge question mark, but the argument of being hurt too much is factually wrong. I like Teddy and am trying to cut him some slack by saying the jury is still out. Losing his 3rd season sucks rear end, but his stat sheet doesn't show much across his first 2 seasons. NotWearingPants posted:I think you need another category between adequate and complete poo poo. You could call it "bad" or "crap" and move names down from adequate like Fitzpatrick, Cousins, and Tannehill. I love optimism. 
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Sep 22, 2016 17:19
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CyberPingu posted:Drew Brees is 2 seasons off breaking the passing record...he should be in great Drew absolutely is great, and a HoFer, and all that. I'm just saying he's not CURRENTLY great, he's just real-real good.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:20
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CyberPingu posted:I dont understand...how can Rodgers be listed as currently great then. I would say Brees is playing better than he is currently To be fair, I avoid watching the packers like the loving plague, so I'll admit blindspotitis on his behalf. Metapod posted:Only wins matter apparently when evaluating individual play loving lol, and Rhode Island rejects any plans to grant congressional seats based on population alone!
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Sep 22, 2016 17:25
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Chichevache posted:Man, I hate the Packers as much as the next guy (Clay Mathews killed Harambe), but how can you like football and not watch their games? The best QB in football plays for them. At least watch to see him slowly get CTE until he actually convinces himself his relationship with Olivia Munn is genuine. fuckin' lol
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Metapod posted:Hmmm it's as if those two things are completely unrelated It's an analogy, Metapod, and it's apt, as was the complaint of Rhode Islands delegation. Helllllllllooooooooooo advanced statistics.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm just saying no matter how you slot the guys, like I did, that compared to stuff that was going a decade ago (or even two decades) the ratio of good to great to average to suck is about the same. I'd say overall, it's slightly better but I haven't dug that far. Make hot takes, get hot replies. 
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